joint replacement

[baji314]

good day, I dunno if this was requested before

but i was wondering how a solid ivory joint be replaced with a new ivory joint or switched to an elk horn joint?

like the process...with you break the original joint? remove joint pin etc etc?

normally how much would this cost?

would appreciate inputs

thanks

 

[manwon]

good day, I dunno if this was requested before

but i was wondering how a solid ivory joint be replaced with a new ivory joint or switched to an elk horn joint?

like the process...with you break the original joint? remove joint pin etc etc?

normally how much would this cost?

would appreciate inputs

thanks

I personally do not know how the joint can be removed unless it is turned off or cut off the cue. If the old joint is threaded on the inside to except the cues pin through it and you want the new joint to be exactly the same the pin would have to be removed and a new pin installed after the new joint is installed.
The cue shafts would also most likely need to be re-faced when the new joint is faced upon completion of the work.

The cost for the work would most likely be between $250 and $350, however, it could cost more it all depends who does the work because prices can vary in different places around this country.

Please understand, that the prices listed are only an estimate, however, they should be pretty close either way.

Take Care

 

[JoeyInCali]

I personally do not know how the joint can be removed unless it is turned off or cut off the cue.
Heat from friction ( leather piece with lathe spinning ) melts most glues and some quickset epoxy.

 

[dave sutton]

I just did a ivory joint for a customer. Cue had a ss joint. I didn't remove the pin. I heated up the joint the tenon was .580 threaded like most SS joints. I turned the tenon to .500 and cut it .500 long. cleaned up the threads. A solid Ivory joint has to be machined anyway so it can be any specs. I drilled and bored a prefect hole .250 then bored For the tenon. Made the pilot .250 deep then threaded the hole for 5x16-14

tight tolerances in tenon and threaded to pin there should never be a problem. Ove don't cues years ago the same way never a complaint. Hope this helps.

 

[manwon]

I just did a ivory joint for a customer. Cue had a ss joint. I didn't remove the pin. I heated up the joint the tenon was .580 threaded like most SS joints. I turned the tenon to .500 and cut it .500 long. cleaned up the threads. A solid Ivory joint has to be machined anyway so it can be any specs. I drilled and bored a prefect hole .250 then bored For the tenon. Made the pilot .250 deep then threaded the hole for 5x16-14

tight tolerances in tenon and threaded to pin there should never be a problem. Ove don't cues years ago the same way never a complaint. Hope this helps.

Dave, he said it was a solid Ivory Joint, which means that the top of the joint is capped and the Ivory joint is then drilled and Tap in it's center so the pin screws through the Ivory.

Take Care Buddy

 

[manwon]

I personally do not know how the joint can be removed unless it is turned off or cut off the cue.
Heat from friction ( leather piece with lathe spinning ) melts most glues and some quickset epoxy.

Deleted due to misreading!!

Sorry Joey

 

[cuesmith]

Joey, a Capped Ivory joint also has the pin screwed through it, and you really don't want to get Ivory hot like you are talking about, it is very temperature sensitive which can cause it to crack.


Craig~~~~always turns Ivory very very slow in order to never heat stress it, cracks can form that you will not even see until much later.

I don't understand what difference it would make if it cracked. You surely aren't thinking of saving the old ivory to reuse after it's removed?
I agree with Joey. I would try the friction method first, if that failed I'd turn it off and deal with whatever I had to work with then.

 

[manwon]

I don't understand what difference it would make if it cracked. You surely aren't thinking of saving the old ivory to reuse after it's removed?
I agree with Joey. I would try the friction method first, if that failed I'd turn it off and deal with whatever I had to work with then.

In my opinion there is no way to re-use the Ivory. But, by heating the joint you could also heat the pin. I would like I said remove the pin anyway and put new pin in after the new joint was on, I just don't like applying heat to a cues joint.

Either way, you will still have to deal with what is there when the joint is removed. But, there are certainly many ways to skin a Cat and what ever works for each of us is all that important isn't it.

Oh and by the way, the reason I made the post to Joey was because I thought he was trying to save the old joint, I suppose I misread his post.:smile:

Take Care