Maryland 2010 14.1 Straight Pool Championships

Hope to see you play at the event.

I geuss here is one more comment to the guys out there.I keep hearing the comments that poolhalls are struggling and that is why the equipment is not up to par for tourneys.These comments are bullshit and come from mostly railbirds that probaly cant make 5 balls in a row with ball in hand and since they cant play they like to bash top players as stating this I have had a few of these comments directed at me and I laugh my ass off about them.

First off there is no reasons for not having matching ball sets and new cue balls at least.cue balls cost about 15.00 each and so if you have 20 tables thats 300.00 as for recovering the tables I understand thats a huge cost but they can at least brush and clean them till they can afford recovering them.Any tourneys that I go to from now on I will carry some extra equipment to help out and if others do the same it will help.The staff at big daddys run great events and the equipment is much better that most poolhalls in md.I recently played in a md event and the equipment was the worst i have ever played on and 2 times I sat the cue ball on the table the cue ball wobbled on its own which is unacceptable.

Well like usual I tell like I see it and not like I hear it so for now good luck to the players out there in the upcoming tourneys and try and support your local poolrooms and dont pay any attention to the railbirds and thank the supporters and fans who support our game and the others who bash the players grow up.

Bobby Chamberlain
 
WOW!!!!!!!! Rich, you seem to be taking this quite personal. I may or may not have met you and dont know who you are at this point, but you and Rick must be pretty close. Maybe you are Rick, who knows? I have never had a bad experience with anyone in that place other than the owner, so I highly doubt you heard anything bad about me. Unless it came from the owner himself. In which case, I would say hes not a very good source. Of all the leagues played there, I like myself to win against 98% of all the players. To give your opinion of my game without ever witnessing it, is pretty obsurd if you ask me. I honestly have never ran 127 balls in straight pool, that was my good friend being comical, while attempting to validate the fact that I know a thing or two about equipment and the way it should be maintained. I give the owner credit for trying to maintain his equipment, at a low cost. although that is not a very effective way to fix problems with tables. Everything i said about the tables I mentioned is the absolute truth. With that being said, if you want to play some, let me know buddy. lol. and enjoy the tournament, and smile as you DONATE to players like Danny Harriman, Mr. Chamberlain, Mr. Wilkie, etc.
 
The equipment at big daddys have been in good condition when I have played there.I do feel that the gold crowns are way to easy to play straight pool on and a player with a wide open stroke could beat a top 14.1 player because of the easy pockets on gold crowns that are used in alot of tournaments.

I can tell you personally the owners of bid daddys make you feel really welcome to be there and are very knowledgeable about pool compared to alot of poolrooms that have no clue.The tables there have been ok and although i am readyto play this year I still am not sure I can make it to play this year.If I will be playing in the md 14.1 event this year I look forward to all challengers and will be bringing my A game with me so you better win the lag or else its over.

Bobby Chamberlain

Bobby, I hope you find a way to play in the 14.1 tournament again this year. My wife and I always look forward to seeing you play.
 
There you have it. A review of the equipment from a player who knows what he is talking about. Take it for what it is worth.

Rich, wait all you want for a video. The dude lives like 5 hours from me and I have no idea when he will be coming over again. I assure you I will film it next time, and post his high run for your viewing pleasure.

By the way, my table IS perfect, thanks for asking:D.

Bobby is a first class player and he definitely knows his stuff. He said the tables were good and you can take that to the bank.

I'm in no hurry. Whenever you get a chance to make an unedited video of a 127 ball run from Prettyboy, I'll be ready to watch.
Oh, wait a minute, in another post Prettyboy admits he has never run 127. :eek:

Easy-e, although I doubt your table is truly perfect, keep in mind, it is a lot easier to keep a home table as near perfect as possible than it is to keep a pool room table in that condition. Good pool room owners do the best that they can and that is all you can ask of them.
 
WOW!!!!!!!! Rich, you seem to be taking this quite personal. I may or may not have met you and dont know who you are at this point, but you and Rick must be pretty close. Maybe you are Rick, who knows? I have never had a bad experience with anyone in that place other than the owner, so I highly doubt you heard anything bad about me. Unless it came from the owner himself. In which case, I would say hes not a very good source. Of all the leagues played there, I like myself to win against 98% of all the players. To give your opinion of my game without ever witnessing it, is pretty obsurd if you ask me. I honestly have never ran 127 balls in straight pool, that was my good friend being comical, while attempting to validate the fact that I know a thing or two about equipment and the way it should be maintained. I give the owner credit for trying to maintain his equipment, at a low cost. although that is not a very effective way to fix problems with tables. Everything i said about the tables I mentioned is the absolute truth. With that being said, if you want to play some, let me know buddy. lol. and enjoy the tournament, and smile as you DONATE to players like Danny Harriman, Mr. Chamberlain, Mr. Wilkie, etc.
Prettyboy, maybe you don't take it serious enough. You come on a public forum and knock a pool room that tries its best to provide good equipment for its customers. That takes a lot of time and hard work as well as money. On top of that they somehow find the time and money to support a major straight pool tournament. How many other rooms do you know that are supporting straight pool? Big Daddy's does not deserve your attack.

You seem to think this whole thing is a joke. You should try running a pool room some time and see how well you do that job. With all of the other problems they have running a pool room, they certainly don't need someone like you trying your best to hurt their business.

I assure you I am not Rick M. I am just a customer, like any other customer. Although I have a table at home, I play in leagues at the pool room and practice there whenever possible to help support what they are doing.

I didnt' give my opinion on you or your game. I only relaid what I was told by others. Maybe you aren't as well liked as you think you are.
To the best of my knowledge, we have never met, so I don't have a personal opinion of you other than what I have formed from this thread.

You seem to be critical of Rick for trying to maintain his tables at a low cost. You should keep in mind that running a pool room is not a hobby. It is no secret that pool rooms are far from a cash cow. They are all struggling to stay in business and Big Daddy's is no different from the rest. Room owners have to maintain tables the best they can at the lowest possible cost. It is not like they have a day job and they have one table to maintain at home. This is their lively hood and they have many tables to maintain. No room owner can afford to tear down a table because it is not as perfect as you expect it to be.

From some of your statements, as well as what I have been told, you have a personal grudge against Rick. Frankly, from what I have been told, the problem is really with you. I don't have any first hand knowledge of the situation and I won't go any farther into that topic. I still think it is in poor taste for you to try to knock his business on a public forum. If you want to settle something, talk to Rick directly.

As for playing you, I'd be happy to play, however, I will tell you up front that my best playing days were long ago and currently I play for the simple enjoyment of the game. I no longer gamble on pool but that wouldn't stop me from playing. You may feel different.
At the current time, I consider myself a C player, at best, and I am a fan of the game, not a competitive player. I will be watching the tournament, not playing in it.
 
Bobby is a first class player and he definitely knows his stuff. He said the tables were good and you can take that to the bank.

I'm in no hurry. Whenever you get a chance to make an unedited video of a 127 ball run from Prettyboy, I'll be ready to watch.
Oh, wait a minute, in another post Prettyboy admits he has never run 127. :eek:

Easy-e, although I doubt your table is truly perfect, keep in mind, it is a lot easier to keep a home table as near perfect as possible than it is to keep a pool room table in that condition. Good pool room owners do the best that they can and that is all you can ask of them.
Thanks Rich you are also a first class guy.Everytime I have seen you and your wife its always been a pleasure..I enjoy to see fans of the game treat players so well and never have to worry about loud talking or sharking players.Everytime that i can remember seeing you all aroung its been great and keep posting those pictures up that you work so hard to take.Lets all do some dinner next time around.

Your Friend,

Bobby Chamberlain
 
Rich, you seem like a stand up guy, and I have probably met you or saw you in passing a few times. I gave my personal opinion of the tables, and stick by my opinion. The personal problems between Rick and myself are just that, between Rick and myself. He has smeared my name all over the pool hall, while my side of the story remains unheard by most. I can assure you of one thing, no matter what the situation was between us, its a shame it happened the way it did. I could easily come on here and tell my side of things and bash him publicly, but i havent and wont. As for coming on here and giving my opinion of the equipment, I have every right to do that, whether its considered in bad taste or not. Everything I mentioned about the tables is factual and can be pointed out by several regulars who are very good players. I really dont have the time or energy to keep coming on here defending my statements, so Im going to get off this subject after this post. As for playing you, I would be happy to do so....without gambling, or any ill feelings. I hardly ever turn down a game. I love the game too much to let an opportunity to play someone new pass me by. I dont have pockets full of money anyways lol. Im not sure who you talked to about me, but there are several great guys in there that Im sure you know that would probably give you a good review of my character. Im an emotional player at times, but never direct any frustration from the game toward my opponent. I treat everyone the way I want to be treated....with respect. If you get a chance to talk Carl, Kenny, Jon M., or Lee F., tell them I said hello, if you dont mind. Have fun at the tourn., ttyl.
 
Good luck people. You should really enjoy it.....if you enjoy paying high prices for microwaved food, and canned sodas.....or if you have no problem playing on terrible equipment. I dont know about you guys, but straight pool is extremely hard to play when the tables are bad. 7 out of the 14 tables there are messed up, with anything from bad rails, to warped shims, to raised seam lines between slate, different sized pockets on the same table, etc. It just doesnt seem worth wasting $250-300 when a bad pocket could keep your runs low. I have a really good feeling that alot of people are going to be disappionted this year

Later in the thread you were mentioning that you were only complaining about the equipment, but in your first sentence above you are mentioning the high prices of the food and drinks. Unless you're privy to their rent, you're pretty out of line here. I've been to this room many times now, and there was nothing about it that ever made me feel like they were trying to gouge their customers. Just an honest family trying to make an honest living.

As to the tables, they all played very well. My only complaint is that the Brunswick in the far right corner of the room was simply too loose for this level of competition. It had just been re-clothed and you could literally hit the rail about 6 inches from the pocket at a hard angle and still make the ball...

In a perfect world, we wouldn't use this table for the tournament, but I'm fine with it if we have to. The rest of the room, from the tables to the staff to the open spaces, is perfect. I love going there every year.

- Steve
 
why are you jumping into this conversation Steve? It has nothing to do with you. If pricing canned sodas at $1.50 (or maybe higher now) is honest business, than you're right. If paying $7.00 for a homemade tuna sandwich is honest, then you're right. I have personally watched this "business" man price a cue at 3 times the price that the actual owner asked him to sell it for.....so that he could pocket more profit than the owner, and more profit than the cue was actually worth. If thats honest, then you're right. I know more about the way he runs his busines than you may think I do. Im not basing anythin on assumptions, rumors, or false information. Im speaking the truth, and its striking a nerve with a few people because he is generally friendly with most people. You can defend him or his business all you want, thats your right. Just dont make the mistake of thinking that Im simply out to bash him or his business. Im out to make people aware. If you dont like it, dont read my posts. The world i an ugly place, but it needs truth-tellers as much as it needs anything else. Most people that know me will tell you that I will pull anyones card when they are wrong, as I would expect them to do the same to me. If you dont people like that, that's unfortunate. have a nice day
 
Steve is stating his opinion just like you are stating yours.

As a board member and a person who has played in this room he has a right to do so.
 
All i have to say is that my entry is going out first thing monday morning and I am overjoyed to be playing in this event. From a personal and professional level I am extremely happy this event is happening. I have heard great things about the event and i will be throwing my cue in the mix with the big boys. Oh and guys the secret to beating Bobby Chamberlain just make him laugh. lol (Sorry Bobby) Either that or steal his little hand chalker thing lol.

Guys equipment and prices aside (matters of opinion of which i do not share) I am happy to travel to this event and show my support for 14.1 and the owners of this room who are opening their doors once again to host this event. I am extremely grateful for everyone that came through the super billiards expo 14.1 challenge and I am more than happy to show my support to the sport that we love.

I look forward to seeing you all there. I am hoping to provide results and match updates when I am not playing as well as photos from the event.

Charlie
 
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As to the tables, they all played very well. My only complaint is that the Brunswick in the far right corner of the room was simply too loose for this level of competition. It had just been re-clothed and you could literally hit the rail about 6 inches from the pocket at a hard angle and still make the ball...

In a perfect world, we wouldn't use this table for the tournament, but I'm fine with it if we have to. The rest of the room, from the tables to the staff to the open spaces, is perfect. I love going there every year.
Steve, you'll be happy to know that Rick just recovered that table earlier this week and I believe he tightened up the pockets a little.

I hope to see you and Danny at the tournament again this year. Travel safely.
 
why are you jumping into this conversation Steve? It has nothing to do with you. If pricing canned sodas at $1.50 (or maybe higher now) is honest business, than you're right. If paying $7.00 for a homemade tuna sandwich is honest, then you're right. I have personally watched this "business" man price a cue at 3 times the price that the actual owner asked him to sell it for.....so that he could pocket more profit than the owner, and more profit than the cue was actually worth. If thats honest, then you're right. I know more about the way he runs his busines than you may think I do. Im not basing anythin on assumptions, rumors, or false information. Im speaking the truth, and its striking a nerve with a few people because he is generally friendly with most people. You can defend him or his business all you want, thats your right. Just dont make the mistake of thinking that Im simply out to bash him or his business. Im out to make people aware. If you dont like it, dont read my posts. The world i an ugly place, but it needs truth-tellers as much as it needs anything else. Most people that know me will tell you that I will pull anyones card when they are wrong, as I would expect them to do the same to me. If you dont people like that, that's unfortunate. have a nice day

Who the hell are you to tell Steve he has no right to jump into this conversation? Steve has more right than most. He has played at Big Daddy's a number of times and he has played in the tournament you are encouraging players to stay away from.

Concerning the food and beverages, businesses have the right to charge what they like for anyting they are selling. If you don't like the price, you are not obligated to purchase anything. Frankly, if you want to complain about the price of food and beverages, you really should take on your local movie theater, not Big Daddy's. You could also take it a step farther and complain about prices at the ball park or any of the restaraunts in downtown Baltimore or Washington.

I think the prices at Big Daddy's are reasonable. I have paid both more and less than $1.50 for a can of soda at other businesses, so their price is average, IMHO. $7.00 for a good homemade sandwich, which includes a bag of chips and a pickle, isn't bad either. The bottom line is, if you don't like the prices, you don't have to buy anything. There is a night club down stairs and they sell food. There is also a McD's about 300 feet away.

Also, IMHO, if a person asks a RO to sell a cue, the RO has the right to price that cue any way he chooses. The RO is doing the work to make the sale and he deserves to make a good profit. Pricing it high also gives him some wiggle room when negotiating with a potential buyer. Reducing an inflated price may help him make the sale. Wake up. This happens in almost every business in the world.

You started by complaining about the equipment. Extremely well respected players like Bobby and Steve, as well as a hacker like myself, disagreed with you. NO ONE except for easy-e agreed with you and she admits that she has never been to Big Daddy's. Now you are complaining about the prices for food and beverages as well as the RO's sales practices. It's obvious you are just bashing a business that you had a problem with.

I have heard one side of the story of why you had a falling out with the RO at Big Daddy's. If you want, we can discuss that too, and you can tell me your side, but I doubt you would be able to twist the truth enough to get any sympathy. If I were you, I would drop the attacks on Big Daddy's.
 
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...I think I've Heard Enough

Folks, it's obvious there is a difference of opinion going on here. Regardless of who is right and who is wrong, I am increasingly disappointed to see this line of dialogue continue in this particular thread.

As a 14.1 fan/player who calls Big Daddy's home, I am very eager for this year's tournament. I can't wait to see some great straight pool being played by great players and keep hoping I will see some posts here regarding that aspect of the event. I may even be fortunate enough to host one of the competitors visiting the area to compete!

Continuing this discussion in this thread only serves to undermine the event itself without settling anything between the aggrieved parties..

EOM
 
Who the hell are you to tell Steve he has no right to jump into this conversation? Steve has more right than most. He has played at Big Daddy's a number of times and he has played in the tournament you are encouraging players to stay away from.

Concerning the food and beverages, businesses have the right to charge what they like for anyting they are selling. If you don't like the price, you are not obligated to purchase anything. Frankly, if you want to complain about the price of food and beverages, you really should take on your local movie theater, not Big Daddy's. You could also take it a step farther and complain about prices at the ball park or any of the restaraunts in downtown Baltimore or Washington.

I think the prices at Big Daddy's are reasonable. I have paid both more and less than $1.50 for a can of soda at other businesses, so their price is average, IMHO. $7.00 for a good homemade sandwich, which includes a bag of chips and a pickle, isn't bad either. The bottom line is, if you don't like the prices, you don't have to buy anything. There is a night club down stairs and they sell food. There is also a McD's about 300 feet away.

Also, IMHO, if a person asks a RO to sell a cue, the RO has the right to price that cue any way he chooses. The RO is doing the work to make the sale and he deserves to make a good profit. Pricing it high also gives him some wiggle room when negotiating with a potential buyer. Reducing an inflated price may help him make the sale. Wake up. This happens in almost every business in the world.

You started by complaining about the equipment. Extremely well respected players like Bobby and Steve, as well as a hacker like myself, disagreed with you. NO ONE except for easy-e agreed with you and she admits that she has never been to Big Daddy's. Now you are complaining about the prices food, beverages and the RO's sales practices. It's obvious you are just bashing a business that you had a problem with.

I have heard one side of the story of why you had a falling out with the RO at Big Daddy's. If you want, we can discuss that too, and you can tell me your side, but I doubt you would be able to twist the truth enough to get any sympathy. If I were you, I would drop the attacks on Big Daddy's.

Damn easy-e just got called a girl.Now thats some funny shit and probably just enough humor to loosen up the few arguements in this thread.Good luck charlie on making me laugh to miss balls and also dont even think about stealing my powder block as I will hunt you down.Just kidding I have a few extra I got from the Japan tourney I went to and if you need 1 I geuss I will help 1 of my favorite pool promoters out.


Bobby Chamberlain
 
From the tone of posts made by easy-e, several people, including myself, thought it was a girl. So much for the internet. :confused:

My sincere apologies to easy-e.

It's okay. I'm a girl on Myspace, so it's not too far off:D.
 
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