I feel blessed

berniep said:
Steve,

You raise an interesting point.

Did I read somewhere that Thorsten's first run of at least 200 actually resulted in a run of 408?

Not sure if this is in fact the case, but if so, would be almost as remarkable.

What do you think?

Thanks.

Bernie Pettipiece.
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Good point Bernie. I have heard that as well. Not really sure if it's true; I've heard some of the craziest things ever in this game, and most of them get repeated even though they're ludicrous. This one I do believe, because the source I heard it from would be very reliable on something like this.

So... it's conceivable that Thorsten had run 100+ balls over a hundred times before he finally broke out. Players of that caliber are waaay stronger than someone who eked a couple one hundreds in their career, and it's therefore believable that they could really break out one day and just destroy their previous record.

Thorsten is also an incredible talent and if anything like this was to ever occur, I'd believe he could do it. He's also young, which is helpful in all walks of life.

- Steve
 
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berniep said:
Steve,

You raise an interesting point.

Did I read somewhere that Thorsten's first run of at least 200 actually resulted in a run of 408?

Not sure if this is in fact the case, but if so, would be almost as remarkable.

What do you think?

Thanks.

Bernie Pettipiece.
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With Thorsten, it is important to note that he doesn't try to run huge numbers. Thorsten trains himself for competition, and and he reserves his energy and his best playing for when it really counts. I believe that Thorsten has been over 200 only once, and that was when he ran that 408. I may be wrong about that, I will double check with Thorsten to see if that is accurate. I would not be surprised if he has had several huge runs in his playing career, but knowing his approach to the game and how he prepares, it is very unlikely that he ever gets on the table to try and break his 408 - or 200.
 
14-1straightman said:
miracle......... Let me know the location of that table and please check underneath it, to see if any water is coming up out of the ground.
If there is, let me know so that i can go there and lie down in it. Maybe all the pain in my back, neck & shoulder will go away............ Lol

i'm sorry but the more i think about this, the less i believe it.
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14-1straightman said:
i am no fool. I simply do not believe you. You stated (why would i say this , what do i have to gain) the answer is: Attention & respect of other players. We all want these two things but earn them.
As for me joking. I am a roman catholic and proud of it.
Now, you do not have to reply to this.
As far as i am concern with you. You are sincerely welcome to write comments on the 14.1 forum & show videos.
Lets wipe the slate clean.
We are all here to help each other.
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i would like to apoligize for what i wrote i let my emotions get the better of me
as far as my original post i stand by it
it is not important to me who beilieves or who does not
it may just be a fluke but what a fluke it was
again my apology for losing it
 
Welcome to the 14.1 Forum

gerard soriano said:
i would like to apoligize for what i wrote i let my emotions get the better of me
as far as my original post i stand by it
it is not important to me who beilieves or who does not
it may just be a fluke but what a fluke it was
again my apology for losing it
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Sincerely accepted.
Welcome to the 14.1 Forum.
 
How would you train someone new to 14.1 to run a 200+?
What mastery of technical challenges are required in order to shoot a 200+ high run?

The key factors I have heard are shooting a pattern, playing position and preparing a break ball. If someone does answer please use simple language.
 
justnum said:
How would you train someone new to 14.1 to run a 200+?
What mastery of technical challenges are required in order to shoot a 200+ high run?

The key factors I have heard are shooting a pattern, playing position and preparing a break ball. If someone does answer please use simple language.
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The factors you have mentioned are all correct
I think to run alot of balls you really need to concentrate
Pat Fleming a hall of fame player told me once the differance between a 50 ball runner and 150 ball runner is conentration
14.1 is not like 9 ball or 10 ball the numbers tell you what to shoot next
In 14.1 you pick and choose the shots
Playing the correct shot will determin if you run the rack or not

I think in no exact order to run a rack you need to know how to break the balls If you go to youtube Pat Flemings creative edge will show you this its wonderful .Next,shot selection is key In my opinion the first thing you want to do is break up clusters or balls touching each other Another thing I think is important is you dont want to move any balls that dont need to be moved if a ball can go into a pocket it doesnt have to be moved The ball before the break shot is called a key ball this is probably as important as the break shot The ultimate key ball is one you can shoot in the side just stopping the q ball and you are automatically in line for the break shot This is my opinion as to run a rack .If you can run 1 you can run 2 and so on I hope this helps
 
Very Well Stated

gerard soriano said:
The factors you have mentioned are all correct
I think to run alot of balls you really need to concentrate
Pat Fleming a hall of fame player told me once the differance between a 50 ball runner and 150 ball runner is conentration
14.1 is not like 9 ball or 10 ball the numbers tell you what to shoot next
In 14.1 you pick and choose the shots
Playing the correct shot will determin if you run the rack or not

I think in no exact order to run a rack you need to know how to break the balls If you go to youtube Pat Flemings creative edge will show you this its wonderful .Next,shot selection is key In my opinion the first thing you want to do is break up clusters or balls touching each other Another thing I think is important is you dont want to move any balls that dont need to be moved if a ball can go into a pocket it doesnt have to be moved The ball before the break shot is called a key ball this is probably as important as the break shot The ultimate key ball is one you can shoot in the side just stopping the q ball and you are automatically in line for the break shot This is my opinion as to run a rack .If you can run 1 you can run 2 and so on I hope this helps
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Very well stated. I agree with you 100%.
The only thing that I can add is:, a player also has to be willing to learn.
 
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Mr. Soriano, I don't feel as if you owe anyone proof. I would not have the audacity to question another player of his stated accomplishments. To me you have been insulted by Mr. 14.1.. and that is wrong IMHO.

I congratulate you on your 200+ ball run and have a great amount of respect for you in how you handled the insults of the other poster. I wish you many more high runs, I have yet to break 50 although I rarely play 14.1..

I realize your accomplishment is one to be very proud of, who would'nt be? Who cares if someone does not believe you, what's important is that you know what you've accomplished.

Peace, Joey K.
 
As you can see I am not frequent poster on azbilliards but I have been reading this forum for a long time. The 14.1 forum is my favorite on the site and I have learned a lot from it, I just wish I could apply what I learned a little bit better.

I have always found this group of people to be very encouraging of each other. I enjoy reading what everyone has to write and what everyone was able to accomplish along with the goals they set. If this gentleman states that he was able to climb the mountain and run a 200 after never running 100, good for him and I hope he is able to do it again. Rather than knocking him down and trying to discredit him we should build him up. If you don't believe he was able to successfully accomplish this feat, just let it be and perhaps ignore the thread.
 
The situation between 14.1-StraightMan and Gerard has been put to rest. Hopefully we can move on.

In the end, all that matters is that we have two valuable posters continuing to contribute.

- Steve
 
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