Review of Mind Body / Pool - hypnosis CD

JesseAllred said:
I believe you have to be a willing participant in the listening experience. If you aren't in the right mind frame, or already predisposed to dismiss the info it won't be as effective. I think it requires you to quiet your mind and focus on the words, if you do that there's no such thing as being bored while immersed in the moment.
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Jesse,
You're right about being in the right frame of mind to get the most out of the listening experience. It's like that for reading or practically anything else. If you are uninterested in the subject matter or disagree with subject matter of a book, you are most likely going to not finish the book.

If you take up a sport and aren't completely immersed in the sport, it won't be long before you find another to hold your interest.
 
ShootingRazbone said:
...and I am the best player in Central Virginia. (Charlottesvile, Lynchburg, Roanoke). Mind you this isn't saying much but just giving an idea of how I play.


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Look, I don't mean to highjack your thread as I really appreciate your sharing, but thems mighty tall words.

First of all, there ain't any pool halls in Charlottesville that I know of. Their is a pool mechanic from Charlottesville on AZ who says the same. I used to go to school their back in the late 60s, and about 5 years ago I went through there to see some old friends. No pool halls anywhere.

In Roanoke, is that old man from Florida (70s) still shooting at Williamson Rd. I think he moved to Roanoke and is an A player. If you can beat him then I might start believing you. I know in Lynchburg there is an older fella who used to help sponser tournaments - like in Dragon Promotions. He shoots real well. I am from Roanoke btw.

Thanks for the post again.
 
edd said:
Good info Joe. I believe you're probably referring to the utilization methodology of Milton Erickson. Yes, the unconscious mind is very literal, that's why you don't want to use negatively-phrased suggestions, such as "Don't scratch in the side"
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My bad -- thanks for the correction.
 
ShootingArts said:
Joe,

Thanks for the link. The zone is something I have always wanted a deeper understanding of. A very interesting comment about hypnosis being one option among many. I think that most who find the zone find it as I did, purely stumble into it. After that happens a time or two we start trying to induce it. In pistol competition there were at least fifteen minutes between stages and the stages lasted from a few seconds to 18 seconds maximum in that particular competition. I found that I could go off away from the crowd and focus on the next stage, practice it over and over in my mind, often physically in the safe gun handling area facing into some woods, and then slip into the zone for the duration of a run.

Did my preparation amount to hypnosis? I don't know. The command to fire was, "Shooter ready, stand by," and a buzzer. I heard that over over in my mind getting ready to shoot a stage and then went through shooting the stage, mentally or mentally and physically. The zone seemed to be triggered when I actually heard, "Shooter ready, stand by . . ."

Racing cars on a circle track I always found the zone and I did almost impossible things sometimes. One thing I noted about the zone racing circle track, it seemed somewhat similar to road hypnosis that befalls drivers on a long boring drive. The state feels much the same but in one everything is flowing in and ignored, the other everything is flowing in and anything needed is processed.

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I think hypnosis is a word we use to cover many bases. There are many levels that can be used for various things. For instance when you are "lost" in a good book or a good movie and someone has to speak your name two or three times to get your attention, you were probably in a light trance state.
Most us us have been hypnotized many times in any given month. We make it a special case and use a specific word when someone else helps us to induce the state but you do it yourself all the time --- and we like it too.
 
whitewolf said:
Look, I don't mean to highjack your thread as I really appreciate your sharing, but thems mighty tall words.

First of all, there ain't any pool halls in Charlottesville that I know of. Their is a pool mechanic from Charlottesville on AZ who says the same. I used to go to school their back in the late 60s, and about 5 years ago I went through there to see some old friends. No pool halls anywhere.

In Roanoke, is that old man from Florida (70s) still shooting at Williamson Rd. I think he moved to Roanoke and is an A player. If you can beat him then I might start believing you. I know in Lynchburg there is an older fella who used to help sponser tournaments - like in Dragon Promotions. He shoots real well. I am from Roanoke btw.

Thanks for the post again.
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Yea I lived here for 26 years and I couldn't possibly tell you the names of any pool players here.

*sigh*
 
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JoeW said:
I think hypnosis is a word we use to cover many bases. There are many levels that can be used for various things. For instance when you are "lost" in a good book or a good movie and someone has to speak your name two or three times to get your attention, you were probably in a light trance state.
Most us us have been hypnotized many times in any given month. We make it a special case and use a specific word when someone else helps us to induce the state but you do it yourself all the time --- and we like it too.
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That's a great example of how we all experience trance on a frequent basis. It is a naturally occuring phenomenon - a form of daydream thinking. It can be utilized in any number of ways. The word, itself, can become a hindrance due to the myths and misconceptions surrounding it. The first time I utilized it, of course unwittingly, was when I was 11-12
(1961 - 1962) when going to the dentist. In those days the needles were "huge." I was more scared of the needle than I was the drill! Therefore, I made a pact with the dentist. I asked for enough time to focus intently on a spot on the wall and imagined myself playing baseball. When I was ready, I gave him a signal and he would begin drilling.
 
amazing cd

I received my cd yesterday and listened to it in the living room with a lot of commotion going on. I became so relaxed I didn't even remember listening to the final 5 minutes of the cd. Then I listened to it before going to sleep for the night and had my first great night of sleep in a long time. thank you, this is an excellent tool!
 
JesseAllred said:
I received my cd yesterday and listened to it in the living room with a lot of commotion going on. I became so relaxed I didn't even remember listening to the final 5 minutes of the cd. Then I listened to it before going to sleep for the night and had my first great night of sleep in a long time. thank you, this is an excellent tool!
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Hey Jesse,
Glad to hear you've received it and finding it helps with relaxation. I trust it will help with your game, as well.
 
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JesseAllred said:
I received my cd yesterday and listened to it in the living room with a lot of commotion going on. I became so relaxed I didn't even remember listening to the final 5 minutes of the cd. Then I listened to it before going to sleep for the night and had my first great night of sleep in a long time. thank you, this is an excellent tool!
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Uhhhhh... Dude!

Those trick shots are absurd!

Now that you have the CD ..... whats next? Hanging upside down, blindfolded? :thumbup::thumbup::thumbup::thumbup:
 
Mp3?

As you can see (or--due to my crummy cell phone picture--can not see), my CD didn't quite survive the international trip. I can listen to the whole beginning relaxation part, but the part about pool is all screwed up.;-) Edd's voice is not so relaxing mixed with SNAP CRACKLE and POP!

Does anyone out there with this CD have the ability to make an MP3 and email it to me? It should come out at under 20MB, which is under gmail's file attachment limit. I'm sure Edd would send me a new one, but I'm just going to throw the CD away after I make the MP3 anyways, so... if anyone would be willing to do that, PM me so I can send you my email.

You may be wondering why I don't ask Edd for an MP3, but I did earlier and he wasn't able to make one. So I'm asking all of you.

Thanks!



Just wanted to add, the part I heard was good. And I did sleep quite well afterward, despite the pops. :)
 
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edd said:
That's a great example of how we all experience trance on a frequent basis. It is a naturally occuring phenomenon - a form of daydream thinking. It can be utilized in any number of ways. The word, itself, can become a hindrance due to the myths and misconceptions surrounding it. The first time I utilized it, of course unwittingly, was when I was 11-12
(1961 - 1962) when going to the dentist. In those days the needles were "huge." I was more scared of the needle than I was the drill! Therefore, I made a pact with the dentist. I asked for enough time to focus intently on a spot on the wall and imagined myself playing baseball. When I was ready, I gave him a signal and he would begin drilling.
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Wow! Nothing new under the sun! I too was more afraid of the needle than
of the drill. Before the dentist would start I would ask how long he was going to drill. In my mind's clock when that time was up I could stand it no more. He would stop and we would start the exercise again.
 
Just ordered mine today.. Jesse sold me! Looking forward to trying it out..
 
mental rehearsal

Well designed & replicated studies have shown that "mental rehearsal" improves performance.
 
berlowmj2 said:
Well designed & replicated studies have shown that "mental rehearsal" improves performance.
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Thank you for sharing that. In part, this is true because minute muscle movement actually occurs when we visualize doing something, helping to build muscle memory.
 
I just ordered this CD.

About 20 years ago I started hanging out with an ex road player. He clued me in to the book "The Inner Game of Tennis" by Timothy Gallway. I have read and re-read this book ( have owned 3 copies) and applied its principles to pool and competitive shooting also.

Self 1 = The "Teller" (Concious)
Self 2 = The "Doer" (Sub-Concious)

The relationship between them and keeping each happy and working together is essential to success in any sport/activity. Possitive thinking is a recuurent theme.

The author takes a lot of the ideas from "Zen and the Art of Arhcery" as well as pschological theories from some the of great mind mechanics like Maslow.

After the first reading coming hoe on an airplane my game went up at least a couple balls until I let the concious take back over. I run back through some of the more pertinent chapters as I find myself falling back on old negative thought processes.

I hope this cd will will have similar effects.
 
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