Mental derailment
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I do try this and before I realize it I am thinking again. I hope the book I ordered helps. Next I will try a Labotamy.
I am going to do away with the pre shot routine and try to do whatever natural on every shot. I hope I don't make a mess on the floor
Well ya know, sometimes when I feel too pressured to win for my team and I'm messing up large, I just say screw it. I play it like I'm playing for fun and it don't matter.
Hi there,
First: good choice with Bob Fancher s book- you re doing yourself a big favor reading it
Further, it s always good to work on your fundamentals- but when you practice alone don t do this too long. it s really enough when you re workin 10 minutes or so on technical fundamentals.
Some ppl just forget to *play the game*. The mental parts will just come thru playin competition, tournaments, league etc.
Imo many women and men are killing their abilities because they re creating so much pressure....so that at the end they re loosing the fun.
Have fun! This is a really important thing mate- when you re not having fun it lll make not really sense to drill like crazy.
Search for a nice qualified instructor-he can help you for sure with your *negative minds*.
Structured training is not that easy to create- having fun is much more easier my friend let you help from the *good* guys ^^
lg from overseas,
ingo
First: good choice with Bob Fancher s book- you re doing yourself a big favor reading it
Further, it s always good to work on your fundamentals- but when you practice alone don t do this too long. it s really enough when you re workin 10 minutes or so on technical fundamentals.
Some ppl just forget to *play the game*. The mental parts will just come thru playin competition, tournaments, league etc.
Imo many women and men are killing their abilities because they re creating so much pressure....so that at the end they re loosing the fun.
Have fun! This is a really important thing mate- when you re not having fun it lll make not really sense to drill like crazy.
Search for a nice qualified instructor-he can help you for sure with your *negative minds*.
Structured training is not that easy to create- having fun is much more easier my friend
let you help from the *good* guys ^^lg from overseas,
ingo
try this.
How do we elicit the relaxation response?
There are many ways to elicit the physiologic benefits of the relaxation response. The easiest is with a simple two-step method as follows:
1. Focus on a word or phrase that has a positive meaning to you. Such words as "one," "love" and "peace" work well. Effective phrases might also include "The Lord is my shepherd, I shall not want," "God grant me serenity," or "Lord, make me an instrument of your peace."
2. When you find your mind has wandered or you notice any intrusive thoughts entering your mind, simply disregard them and return your focus to the word or phrase you chose.
Be aware that your mind will tend to wander and intrusive thoughts will enter your mind. This is normal. Just allow those thoughts to pass through your mind like a summer breeze passes through an open window. The second step above is related to our ability to "let go" of intrusive thoughts or excessive worries. Dr. Benson says "to summon the healing effects of the relaxation response, you need to surrender everyday worries and tensions." This gets our harried minds out of the way of our body’s natural ability to heal. It’s funny to watch the tricks our mind plays on us. It will try to tell us things like: "This is stupid, why am I sitting here doing this?" "I hope no one sees me here meditating." "This will never work." "That’s it, I’m going to quit now." When you realize your mind has wandered, just let go of the thought and return back to your word or phrase!
Remember, whether your mind wanders or your thoughts drift, simply practicing the two steps above will elicit the relaxation response and deliver beneficial physiologic and emotional benefits as predictably as flipping a light switch causes the light bulb to shine.
The key to deriving the benefits of the relaxation response is to practice it daily. Dr. Benson recommends at least 10 to 15 minutes, once to twice a day. This will produce the maximum benefit. When I first learned this technique from Dr. Benson’s, I remember him telling us his dental analogy. He told us to treat the relaxation response the same way you treat brushing your teeth. Do it because you know it is good for you. Don’t worry whether you think you had a "good relaxation response" or not. You wouldn’t say to yourself: "That was a good tooth brushing!" would you? Whether you "felt" it was a calming, relaxing experience or not, the physiologic benefits of doing the relaxation response are measurable, predictable and repeatable. The quieting of the mind that results from eliciting the relaxation response is critical in order to open up our perceptual world, away from negativity and fear. This freedom allows us to be more awake, more aware and more conscious of the attitudes and beliefs we choose when living our daily lives.
How do we elicit the relaxation response?
There are many ways to elicit the physiologic benefits of the relaxation response. The easiest is with a simple two-step method as follows:
1. Focus on a word or phrase that has a positive meaning to you. Such words as "one," "love" and "peace" work well. Effective phrases might also include "The Lord is my shepherd, I shall not want," "God grant me serenity," or "Lord, make me an instrument of your peace."
2. When you find your mind has wandered or you notice any intrusive thoughts entering your mind, simply disregard them and return your focus to the word or phrase you chose.
Be aware that your mind will tend to wander and intrusive thoughts will enter your mind. This is normal. Just allow those thoughts to pass through your mind like a summer breeze passes through an open window. The second step above is related to our ability to "let go" of intrusive thoughts or excessive worries. Dr. Benson says "to summon the healing effects of the relaxation response, you need to surrender everyday worries and tensions." This gets our harried minds out of the way of our body’s natural ability to heal. It’s funny to watch the tricks our mind plays on us. It will try to tell us things like: "This is stupid, why am I sitting here doing this?" "I hope no one sees me here meditating." "This will never work." "That’s it, I’m going to quit now." When you realize your mind has wandered, just let go of the thought and return back to your word or phrase!
Remember, whether your mind wanders or your thoughts drift, simply practicing the two steps above will elicit the relaxation response and deliver beneficial physiologic and emotional benefits as predictably as flipping a light switch causes the light bulb to shine.
The key to deriving the benefits of the relaxation response is to practice it daily. Dr. Benson recommends at least 10 to 15 minutes, once to twice a day. This will produce the maximum benefit. When I first learned this technique from Dr. Benson’s, I remember him telling us his dental analogy. He told us to treat the relaxation response the same way you treat brushing your teeth. Do it because you know it is good for you. Don’t worry whether you think you had a "good relaxation response" or not. You wouldn’t say to yourself: "That was a good tooth brushing!" would you? Whether you "felt" it was a calming, relaxing experience or not, the physiologic benefits of doing the relaxation response are measurable, predictable and repeatable. The quieting of the mind that results from eliciting the relaxation response is critical in order to open up our perceptual world, away from negativity and fear. This freedom allows us to be more awake, more aware and more conscious of the attitudes and beliefs we choose when living our daily lives.
"Learn to focus."
"I CAN'T learn to focus."
"Learn to focus."
"I CAN'T learn to focus."
"Learn to focus."
"I CAN'T learn to focus." >>>>infinity...
You have been told several times in several different ways
what the problem is.
What answer is it you are looking for?
IMHO no one can tell you how to change your situation.
What is the probability you are ADD? Do you experience symptoms
in other aspects of your life - esp competition?
Dale<registered arm chair Psychologist>
Matter of fact I do have a few problems that I don't want to go into on here. I take my medication daily.
I didn't mean to sound like a know it all. I just beleive after playing so long getting lessons in my situation may be more harmful than good. I will try anything. When I was young before wife and kids my dream was to compete in the us open. To one day play at that level. Not really the world champ, but that caliber. Now I am on disability and have time to try to live my dream. I guess that folks at that level have a special talent that I do not. I thought if I worked really hard I could make up for the short commings in my game and or talent.
I had been playing pool for over 30 years before I went to my first pool school. I really thought I might pick up a couple of good tips.
What I learned changed my entire game.
We don't know what we don't know.
My point is, if you really had the answers, you wouldn't have needed to start this thread. If you aren't happy with the way things are, you are going to have to change something. If you keep doing what you have always done, don't expect different results.
Steve
What I learned changed my entire game.
We don't know what we don't know.
My point is, if you really had the answers, you wouldn't have needed to start this thread. If you aren't happy with the way things are, you are going to have to change something. If you keep doing what you have always done, don't expect different results.
Steve
Without question the mental component of the game is huge! Pool is defined as a precision, non-reactive sport and, as such, a premium is placed on focus, visualization and anxiety/tension management. We can develop the capacity to stay more in the present and when that happens our mind is more apt to "get out of the way" and let the body do what it knows how to do.
No need to go into specifics. I thought I reconized something in your
replies. Turns out I have a friend who has a very similar situation.
I tried for years to explain to him you can't think about anything
while you are executing - all to no avail.
Unlike you, he just refuses to practice, so you may have a better chance.
A word about practice - I have no idea what your approach is, but many
players seem to think that banging balls around with no goal nor plan,
constitutes practice. Technically, I suppose it does - but is of limitted value.
My advise for you would be to develop a highly structured routine
that emphasises fundamentals, pocketing, cue ball control, all as
separate components. You might even want to work on fundamentals
without any balls on the table.
The goal is to be able to shoot without thinking about anything...EVER.
IMHO - you must learn how to block out thoughts about
stroke, stance, etc... Untill you can do that, I don't think you can improve.
Dale
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tap tap tap^^
I figured out the problem, I was using the wrong end of the stick.:grin:
My practice goes like this. I will shoot some drills then I will just throw out some balls and shoot then I rack 9 ball and break them play safe on myself or run out etc. I rotate when I get bored. I love to play no matter with or without someone so I like to practice and work on things by myself. I am looking for better ways to practice to improve faster.The whole time I play I try not to think, soon as I miss the demon comes back.
All this sounds VERY familiar.
First - you care WAY too much about missing - especially in practice.
So, you need a much more structured approach to practice
Why in the world would you think you should never miss?
Even top players miss.
I would just about bet you don't know how to tell the difference
between a shot you should make, and one you shouldn't expect to make.
Dale
That is my 6 year old in the pic, standing on a milk crate to play. I just don't have the mental make up to play pool. The harder I try the worse I do. I think it is time I give up on pool again.