CTE Accuracy

[Ed Wiggins]

You should be able to verify the accuracy of CTE---or any other aiming method

1. Without shooting any balls into pockets

2.Without a pool table
Any flat surface should do.


EW

 

[JB Cases]

You should be able to verify the accuracy of CTE---or any other aiming method

1. Without shooting any balls into pockets

2.Without a pool table
Any flat surface should do.


EW

We give up? Are you suggesting that it should be possible or offering a test to show it?

 

[TommyT]

It all depends on the stroke. If you can't hit what your aiming at, it ain't gonna work. And this holds true for any aiming method. You must be able to hit center ball or the fraction of the OB your looking at.

 

[Johnnyt]

It all depends on the stroke. If you can't hit what your aiming at, it ain't gonna work. And this holds true for any aiming method. You must be able to hit center ball or the fraction of the OB your looking at.

Hitting that little spot on the OB is the fly in the ointment. Johnnyt

 

[Ed Wiggins]

Aiming is not shooting

To me, aiming means pointing the cuestick through the center of the cueball toward what you see as the correct target.
The exact target should be the center of the ghost ball.
The line between cueball center and this point is fixed for every shot.

After a player has performed CTE, he should freeze.
A picture taken at this time should show how far his line of aim diverges from the exact line.
How accurately can this be done? I don't know. The difficulty probably varies from shot to shot.

All the stroking and shooting comes after this.

EW

 

[Mikjary]

To me, aiming means pointing the cuestick through the center of the cueball toward what you see as the correct target.
The exact target should be the center of the ghost ball.
The line between cueball center and this point is fixed for every shot.

After a player has performed CTE, he should freeze.
A picture taken at this time should show how far his line of aim diverges from the exact line.
How accurately can this be done? I don't know. The difficulty probably varies from shot to shot.

All the stroking and shooting comes after this.

EW

I use two methods of aiming, Cte and feel. Both are very accurate, but each has its place in my shot making catalogue. I posted on the "silly" Cte thread about using Cte to double check my feel for the shot. It is a good tool to have and burn the angles into your mind. I 'freeze' before I shoot to look at the angle. Cte, when done correctly, is a center pocket aiming line. Instead of trying to over analyze geometrically why this happens, I spend my time using it to teach my brain the correct angles on the low percentage shots.

As far as my "feel" aiming, I'm not really sure how I arrive at my aiming line. I guess I'm using ghostball, but I aim like Rempe does. I look at the contact point and aim at it. I know, I know the ball won't go in if I do this, but somehow my brain compensates for the ghostball position.

Best,
Mike

 

[SpiderWebComm]

To me, aiming means pointing the cuestick through the center of the cueball toward what you see as the correct target.
The exact target should be the center of the ghost ball.
The line between cueball center and this point is fixed for every shot.

After a player has performed CTE, he should freeze.
A picture taken at this time should show how far his line of aim diverges from the exact line.
How accurately can this be done? I don't know. The difficulty probably varies from shot to shot.

All the stroking and shooting comes after this.

EW

You're a few days behind. Check out the other thread. What if a player can make a ball without looking at the OB/pocket? Would that prove he's aimed correctly?

 

[JB Cases]

I can use CTE to send the cueball to anywhere on the table. That means I can make it hit a ball and send that ball to wherever I want it to go.

I think that this is the whole "move the pockets" angle to try and debunk cte.

The idea being that you can imagine phantom ball anywhere on the 180 degree arc around the object ball in line with the intended direction and then shoot into that phantom invisible ball and thus move the object ball in the intended direction.

And sure enough it works in a general sense. So then people say what if I DON'T want to shoot to a pocket? GB works there how about CTE.

You post the diagrams of what you want to see and I will post videos of me using CTE to send the object ball where you want it.

 

[Rod]

To me, aiming means pointing the cuestick through the center of the cueball toward what you see as the correct target.
The exact target should be the center of the ghost ball.
EW

To me aiming means (am I really replying to an aiming thread?) shooting an object ball to a precise target.
It would be easy I suppose if it was as simple as pointing the cue through the center of a cue ball.
The rub is, we need to play position for the next shot. Follow, draw and side english are needed to play good position. With side we can not aim through center ball.

No matter how you aim adjustments are needed. If your stroke is not true it doesn't matter how you aim. The cue ball arrives to fat or to thin. I don't aim with the shaft although it is helpful to most I suppose. I do not see contact points, I personally think its ridiculous trying to focus on a small spot. No ghost balls either, base of the ball etc. I see the angle and use ball overlap.

My only concern is minor adjustments(when needed) to aim when I use side english. The big part is knowing when and how much to adjust. Experience rules and there is only one way to get it. You can never have to much of that.

Rod