Why CTE is silly

[GetMeThere]

i will teach cte, so go easy on what u say about it and its users u will be eating a lot of words trust me.

Surely you must be aware that I've made my criticisms knowing full well that some people teach it, right?

I would actually enjoy eating my words. It would be amusing as hell. For many reasons I actually HOPE CTE is super-duper amazing...whatchamacallit! I like to be surprised and learn new things--especially when they're unexpected. And OH BOY, is it unexpected that IT WORKS!

i assume u are willing to learn it right?

Probably not. Even if it worked (which, I'm CERTAIN is does not), I think I would prefer a method that didn't involve pivoting all the time. To me that seems contrary to a "straight stroke" attitude that I find important to emphasize in my shooting.

 

[GetMeThere]

Ahhh! So that's what he was doing when he was "pivoting" the cue in the air and then pretending to stab something on the ground. Now it all makes sense.

Right. Those moves were CTE moves that were brought up to a higher, scientology plane--for the purposes of increasing box office of the movie.

It all comes together when you BELIEVE!

 

[JB Cases]

Can you really say that with a straight face after FIFTEEN YEARS???

If only I hadn't come along and gotten so pushy and started browbeating people, the solution of CTE would have been revealed LONG AGO! LOL

Sure. Because the answers are out there. Really though you should stop with the rhetoric as well.

It hasn't been 15 years. But in all the time that Hal and his systems have been debated plenty of folks have gotten together and learned them from each other.

I am only referring to you right now as pertains to this thread and your purpose in it.

All you are doing is getting more people interested in trying to learn it.

So if that is your goal you're succeeding. If your goal is to find out the "secret sauce" then it won't happen through your actions on this thread.

But keep on criticizing something you know nothing, by you own admission, about. You don't know CTE and you can't learn it through the written word because to date no one has provided a step-by-step guide that's clear enough for you. Whether that is because they can't or because they won't is unknown to you. You can speculate on can't, and continue to insult but that still won't get you what you are looking for.

 

[JB Cases]

Surely you must be aware that I've made my criticisms knowing full well that some people teach it, right?

I would actually enjoy eating my words. It would be amusing as hell. For many reasons I actually HOPE CTE is super-duper amazing...whatchamacallit! I like to be surprised and learn new things--especially when they're unexpected. And OH BOY, is it unexpected that IT WORKS!



Probably not. Even if it worked (which, I'm CERTAIN is does not), I think I would prefer a method that didn't involve pivoting all the time. To me that seems contrary to a "straight stroke" attitude that I find important to emphasize in my shooting.

You're not pivoting all the time. Only when getting down on the shot. Once down on the shot your stroke should be straight through the ball wherever you are addressing it. Unless of course you intentionally want to throw it in which case you will need to use a swipe stroke. But that technique is also on a higher plane and is better shown than described.

You're certain CTE does not work? Can you tell us what CTE is first so that we can be certain you are talking about the same thing? I am not sure how a person can be certain that something that they themselves cannot define or execute does not "work".

Maybe someday when there are proper diagrams explaining all the mechanics behind CTE you will then be able to dissect it properly. Until then you can only be certain that you do not know the technique and therefore be uncertain as to it's validity.

 

[BRKNRUN]

Ahhh! So that's what he was doing when he was "pivoting" the cue in the air and then pretending to stab something on the ground. Now it all makes sense.

Here is how to do CTE, just watch this scene below. CTE even allowed his hair to be perfect.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tZirZXR7Fjc

So that is how you use CTE to make a ball in the side pocket.....I also noticed another benefit of CTE from that video....Not only does CTE compensate for CIT....it also turnes every shot into a stop shot...

Did you see the look on Fast Eddies face when he walked in and realized that Vincent was exposing all of the CTE secrets???

Sorry JoeyA...It is Monday morning...I had to have a little fun before going to work...no hard feeelings...:smile:

 

[lfigueroa]

I do possess the secret sauce . Does it make it wrong that I wont give a full description? Does that give you the right to dismiss it . And be very
rude about it

er, that would be affirmative, over.

Lou Figueroa

 

[lfigueroa]

Ok summary of what I am getting from this thread so far.


-There is a "basic" process for making balls into any corner pocket.

-The system is an "exact" center pocket system (that uses subconcious adjustments)..but requires no adjustments

-The system can send the ball to "other" places other than the corner pockets....but it can't be used to make combos.

-It is easy to recognize and set up to the CB with 1 tip of offset to the edge of the OB...then "paralell shift" to "some point" along the CB to either some place on the OB or some part of the pocket and then pivot the cue in some fashion at a certain bridge length back to a center CB........However it is NOT easy to set up through center CB along a straight line through a single selected verticle axis point.

-Descriptions of ceratain aspects of CTE are not able to be communicated through text or graphs...only "in person" at the table.

-Descriptions of certain aspects of CTE are not available to the public through this discussion board......but the "secrets" are available "somewhere"

-CTE eliminates the need to compensate for CIT.

-Only half of the information on CTE is correct.....the half that IS correct has not been identified.

-CTE does NOT have any religious connections...the jury is still out on "magic"

-No joking is allowed in the presence of CTE discussions

-GetMeThere has way to much time on his hands.....and/or types very very fast.

-After following this "silly" thread....Stan has his work cut out for him with this DVD release.

lol.

Lou Figueroa
um, we are still allowed to laugh
(aren't we?)

 

[SUPERSTAR]

When CTE-ers get together for a meet and greet, is there some secret society CTE handshake?

Maybe starting with your hand extended far to the right, and pivoting towards center (at the elbow) before you join hands and shake?

 

[SpiderWebComm]

When CTE-ers get together for a meet and greet, is there some secret society CTE handshake?

Maybe starting with your hand extended far to the right, and pivoting towards center (at the elbow) before you join hands and shake?

 

[Mikjary]

Spidey, darnit! Now don't show a closeup of the decoder ring!

Best,
Mike

 

[Maniac]

I've been out of town the past several days hunting and I have obviously missed 12 or 13 pages of this thread (which I am not going to read all of).

I only have ONE question. It may seem like a joke, but the question is a serious one. It concerns something John Barton said in a post on this thread a week or so ago.

John, you said in your aforementioned post that you were not going to participate in this thread anymore, and that if you did, you would make a custom case and send it to someone (I don't remember who, but I think it was GetMeThere). Have you, or are you going to do that? Or, are you going to fire an "air-barrel" on the promise???

Maniac

 

[JoeyA]

I've been out of town the past several days hunting and I have obviously missed 12 or 13 pages of this thread (which I am not going to read all of).

I only have ONE question. It may seem like a joke, but the question is a serious one. It concerns something John Barton said in a post on this thread a week or so ago.

John, you said in your aforementioned post that you were not going to participate in this thread anymore, and that if you did, you would make a custom case and send it to someone (I don't remember who, but I think it was GetMeThere). Have you, or are you going to do that? Or, are you going to fire an "air-barrel" on the promise???

Maniac

This is about all this thread is good for. I say air-barrel if he did say it. :grin:

You naysayers are like a pack of jackals. Each of you take turns trying to put some negative spin on the thread. If you can't damage CTE, then you try to discredit the people who use it or teach it. Nip here, nip there, nip your prey until they are too exhausted to defend themselves.

It's no wonder that the CTE people won't respond to your every whim.

 

[Neil]

I've been out of town the past several days hunting and I have obviously missed 12 or 13 pages of this thread (which I am not going to read all of).

I only have ONE question. It may seem like a joke, but the question is a serious one. It concerns something John Barton said in a post on this thread a week or so ago.

John, you said in your aforementioned post that you were not going to participate in this thread anymore, and that if you did, you would make a custom case and send it to someone (I don't remember who, but I think it was GetMeThere). Have you, or are you going to do that? Or, are you going to fire an "air-barrel" on the promise???

Maniac

Rather than put the thought out there that John would air-barrel on a bet, why not just click on his name and look at a few of his recent posts to find your answer. Since you don't want to read the thread. :wink:

By the way, the subject was brought up and answered already.

 

[Maniac]

This is about all this thread is good for. I say air-barrel if he did say it. :grin:

You naysayers are like a pack of jackals. Each of you take turns trying to put some negative spin on the thread. If you can't damage CTE, then you try to discredit the people who use it or teach it. Nip here, nip there, nip your prey until they are too exhausted to defend themselves.

It's no wonder that the CTE people won't respond to your every whim.

Joey, Joey, Joey. Geez, take some meds or somethin' :wink:. If you've seen any of my posts, then surely you must know that I'm not a naysayer. In each and every post (at least the non-humor ones) I've made, I made it clear that I was completely neutral on the subject of CTE, and that I thought if there are people out there that believe in it and thinks that it helps their game, then by all means it has a place in the pool world.
I've always liked your postings on AZB, but I feel that your emotions are running a little high (on this CTE thread) if you gotta say things like this about one of my quoted posts.

All I wanted to know was if John was planning to send a case to someone. The post I made had ZERO connections to anything on the subject of CTE.

Maniac (been called a jackal )

 

[Maniac]

Rather than put the thought out there that John would air-barrel on a bet, why not just click on his name and look at a few of his recent posts to find your answer. Since you don't want to read the thread. :wink:

By the way, the subject was brought up and answered already.

Well Neil, like I said, I AIN'T goin' back and reading them. Did you miss that I said that? While you were quoting my post, why didn't you just say what was answered when the subject was brought up? Nobody in their right mind is gonna go back and read 13 or so pages of this thread when someone could have told me what I wanted to know in ONE SINGLE POST.

Why do you get so defensive when you respond to one of my posts? If I have ever said anything to make you this way, I am truly sorry. I have been and will remain completely neutral on the subject of CTE. I haven't said anything in this thread that SHOULD have pissed anyone off.

So now I guess I'm gonna have to go back and read all that I missed while I was away. NOT!!! I'd rather get a root-canal done first !!!

Maniac

 

[JoeyA]

Joey, Joey, Joey. Geez, take some meds or somethin' :wink:. If you've seen any of my posts, then surely you must know that I'm not a naysayer. In each and every post (at least the non-humor ones) I've made, I made it clear that I was completely neutral on the subject of CTE, and that I thought if there are people out there that believe in it and thinks that it helps their game, then by all means it has a place in the pool world.
I've always liked your postings on AZB, but I feel that your emotions are running a little high (on this CTE thread) if you gotta say things like this about one of my quoted posts.

All I wanted to know was if John was planning to send a case to someone. The post I made had ZERO connections to anything on the subject of CTE.

Maniac (been called a jackal )

Maniac,

I thought I would lighten the mood of my posts and even interjected a smiley face and thought that the jackal references would make someone laugh although there is some truth in the way that the naysayers have attacked the CTE people.

John is a generous guy and sometimes emotional and might have said something in the heat of debate and I don't think he has to be called on every single utterance, but that's just me. Especially since this thread is about CTE and not about John being called out to provide someone with a free case............

I'm all good with this thread and have no problem with any of the posters including you.

I'm just voicing my opinion. Hope I haven't hurt your feelings with the jackal remarks. It just gets old seeing people attacked for no good reason. Good people like John Barton don't come around every day and he has done a lot of good for pool and it would be a shame to see him strained to the point that he doesn't feel like posting on AZB any longer.

Best Regards,
JoeyA

 

[peteypooldude]

Ok summary of what I am getting from this thread so far.


-There is a "basic" process for making balls into any corner pocket.

-The system is an "exact" center pocket system (that uses subconcious adjustments)..but requires no adjustments

-The system can send the ball to "other" places other than the corner pockets....but it can't be used to make combos.

-It is easy to recognize and set up to the CB with 1 tip of offset to the edge of the OB...then "paralell shift" to "some point" along the CB to either some place on the OB or some part of the pocket and then pivot the cue in some fashion at a certain bridge length back to a center CB........However it is NOT easy to set up through center CB along a straight line through a single selected verticle axis point.

-Descriptions of ceratain aspects of CTE are not able to be communicated through text or graphs...only "in person" at the table.

-Descriptions of certain aspects of CTE are not available to the public through this discussion board......but the "secrets" are available "somewhere"

-CTE eliminates the need to compensate for CIT.

-Only half of the information on CTE is correct.....the half that IS correct has not been identified.

-CTE does NOT have any religious connections...the jury is still out on "magic"

-No joking is allowed in the presence of CTE discussions

-GetMeThere has way to much time on his hands.....and/or types very very fast.

-After following this "silly" thread....Stan has his work cut out for him with this DVD release.

This post pretty much sums it up, They as in GMT,PJ and some other haters are doing their math on breaknruns post. Play pool with a cue not a calculator .

 

[Patrick Johnson]

i will teach cte, so go easy on what u say about it and its users u will be eating a lot of words trust me. i assume u are willing to learn it right?

You're one of the guys who thinks CTE can only aim balls at pockets, right? Like a gun that can only hit square targets? Or a car that can only go to cities beginning with "C"?

And you're going to teach it?

LOL. Perfect.

pj
chgo

 

[peteypooldude]

It (among other things) makes it hard to believe that you know one.

pj
chgo

Think what you want. I will let you get back to your soap opera.
(among other things)

 

[Neil]

Well Neil, like I said, I AIN'T goin' back and reading them. Did you miss that I said that? While you were quoting my post, why didn't you just say what was answered when the subject was brought up? Nobody in their right mind is gonna go back and read 13 or so pages of this thread when someone could have told me what I wanted to know in ONE SINGLE POST.

Why do you get so defensive when you respond to one of my posts? If I have ever said anything to make you this way, I am truly sorry. I have been and will remain completely neutral on the subject of CTE. I haven't said anything in this thread that SHOULD have pissed anyone off.

So now I guess I'm gonna have to go back and read all that I missed while I was away. NOT!!! I'd rather get a root-canal done first !!!

Maniac

This goes to show the problem with just the written word. I wasn't getting defensive. However, you are.:wink: I was simply informing you and anyone else that there was an easy way to check for your answer without reading all the rest of this thread. It's probably within the last ten posts of Johns', so you can just skim, click, and read the answer.

But, since YOU seem to be in a "pissy" mood, John DID offer him a case. With the full written description of CTE carved on it as soon as he can get the full written description. All GMT had to do is send John his full name and address, which he won't do.(surprise, surprise)