CTE/ PRO ONE with Stan Shuffett

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Patrick Johnson said:
Is there something wrong with figuring out why it works?


You're wrong to think that's the point.

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You do not have a point
Have you switshed from NONSENSE to YOUR WRONG ?
Give it a break. This junk is old. Because it does not work for you
you feel the need to convince the CTErs that they are fooling
themselves. Useless argument. Do you have a way to pick a 20 yr veteran of the game up by a couple balls. I doubt it . If so tell me lol
 
Patrick Johnson said:
Is there something wrong with figuring out why it works?

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The point is no one cares about the physics of how it works or doesn't work.
The ONLY thing anyone cares about is results. Therefore for myself and many others the only question is after learning CTE/Pro1 has it made me more consistent are pocketing balls or not?

PS: I am still waiting for someone to answer my question. If CTE/Pro1 is not a legitimate aiming system how is it that Landon Shuffett and Stevie Moore able to pocket balls at an extremely high level?
 
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I always wonder how these top pro split the pocket on almost every shot. Since i have learned Cte, i now think they all use some form of an aiming system...ijs
 
Patrick Johnson said:
I don't think it's a conscious trick. They're being as candid as they know how to be. They don't know how CTE works; they just know that it works.

And they also don't know (or care) that there's a difference. For them "it works" covers all the bases and there's literally nothing more to talk about. Asking them how they "do" CTE is like asking a fish how it swims. "Are you trying to say I don't know how to swim? I can outswim you!"
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Would be more accurate if the fish said "I use a pivot-based swim technique, it's so much easier than swimming by feel!" .... I don't know how I swim.

Patrick Johnson said:
Stan's DVD won't put an end to any of this because it won't bridge this communication gap - that's not (and shouldn't be) it's purpose. It's a foregone conclusion that the DVD won't spell out how CTE works in analytical terms, because that's not the CTE "product" that Stan's customers want. What they want is how to do it, and they, like the fish, don't know or care that there may be other aspects of it that interest other people. They just want to swim. And more power to 'em.

Those of us with an academic interest in how CTE helps people aim may never be able to have a real conversation about that aspect of it with an actual CTE user because they simply don't speak that language - and maybe they shouldn't want to. If they did they might not be CTE users, and as far as they're concerned they probably have the good end of that bargain.

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How can I tell you how this sounds to me without offending anybody? Sounds like they are cought in a CTE matrix and don't care what is real and what isn't. Ok. Can't argue with that. But they also persuade more and more people to plug themselves in.
 
Main Event said:
The point is no one cares about the physics of how it works or doesn't work.
The ONLY thing anyone cares about is results. Therefore for myself and many others the only question is after learning CTE/Pro1 has it made me more consistent are pocketing balls or not?

PS: I am still waiting for someone to answer my question. If CTE/Pro1 is not a legitimate aiming system how is it that Landon Shuffett and Stevie Moore able to pocket balls at an extremely high level?
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I don't think that's true. There are many of us that are interested in why it works.
 
champ2107 said:
To the best of my knowledge i will try and answer any question you have about CTE other than what Patrick is looking for "how it works" because i can not answer it.
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If you can't answer my questions on page 26, I'd like to know how you aim. Is it something like what JB posted?

1. Sight Center of Cue Ball to Edge of OB
2. Place cue tip in line with edge of ball.
3. Pivot to Center Cue Ball

now you are aimed along the line which sends the cueball to the object ball so that the object ball will go towards the pocket.

For details find a qualified instructor who will show you the proper way to do these steps. Once learned this systems covers all shots which go directly to a pocket.
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And does CTE work with the big cueball?
 
ThePoliteSniper said:
If you can't answer my questions on page 26, I'd like to know how you aim. Is it something like what JB posted?



And does CTE work with the big cueball?
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I see only 15 pages on this thread :) do you have a post#, big cue ball? <<< are you talking about a coin operated bar box?

JB aims cte different than i do and if you are asking if that is how Stan's system works, i do not know and will have to wait and see when the dvd comes out. If your asking if JB cte works, its pretty obvious it does since he has made a few videos about it! not sure what more he could do to prove this?
 
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Patrick Johnson said:
Is there something wrong with figuring out why it works?


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Not at all. But doesn't it make more sense to try it, and then when you see that it actually does work, worry about how it works?

I know nobody is going to change your mind. You have already made it up, and you are sticking to your story. Fine. But, why must you argue with those who have found success using CTE?

If it works, use it. If it doesn't, don't! You can tell me all day long that it can't work, but it won't stop me from using it to make shots.

Steve
 
pooltchr said:
Not at all. But doesn't it make more sense to try it, and then when you see that it actually does work, worry about how it works?

I know nobody is going to change your mind. You have already made it up, and you are sticking to your story. Fine. But, why must you argue with those who have found success using CTE?

If it works, use it. If it doesn't, don't! You can tell me all day long that it can't work, but it won't stop me from using it to make shots.

Steve
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I think it's the other way around. I seriously doubt Patrick gives a flying fig whether or not anyone enjoys whatever success they have with CTE. (All those folks that are happy with their results can stand up and leave the room now.) Those that stay should be the ones that want to figure out the why.

Lou Figueroa
 
lfigueroa said:
I think it's the other way around. I seriously doubt Patrick gives a flying fig whether or not anyone enjoys whatever success they have with CTE. (All those folks that are happy with their results can stand up and leave the room now.) Those that stay should be the ones that want to figure out the why.

Lou Figueroa
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Lou:

Good point. While you're at it... <gives Lou a handful of double-aught buckshot> ...can you shoo-away those heckling crows on the wire above?

-Sean
 
lfigueroa said:
I think it's the other way around. I seriously doubt Patrick gives a flying fig whether or not anyone enjoys whatever success they have with CTE. (All those folks that are happy with their results can stand up and leave the room now.) Those that stay should be the ones that want to figure out the why.

Lou Figueroa
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And why are you involved in this thread if you dont mind me asking? Please dont post in riddles either :)
 
champ2107 said:
And why are you involved in this thread if you dont mind me asking? Please dont post in riddles either :)
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I am interested in the how and the why.

How 'bout you? If you're one of the ones that are just happy the system "works" and allows you to rocket balls in from everywhere, and you don't care how/why it works, why is you here...

Lou Figueroa
 
lfigueroa said:
I think it's the other way around. I seriously doubt Patrick gives a flying fig whether or not anyone enjoys whatever success they have with CTE. (All those folks that are happy with their results can stand up and leave the room now.) Those that stay should be the ones that want to figure out the why.

Lou Figueroa
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Then you and PJ and the others in the (why) group need to go start a WHY CTE WORKS THREAD and I wont bother with your thread. All the
skeptics can work in harmony together.Problem solved.Would you like me to do this for you?
Petey
 
peteypooldude said:
Then you and PJ and the others in the (why) group need to go start a WHY CTE WORKS THREAD and I wont bother with your thread. All the
skeptics can work in harmony together.Problem solved.Would you like me to do this for you?
Petey
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Please don't do anything for me. And of course you are free to start any thread you like. Or, as in the case John, even go so far as to build your own yahoo tree house to discuss The CTE Secrets you don't want THEM to know.

I'll probably be wherever the party is :-)

Lou Figueroa
(burp)
 
peteypooldude said:
Then you and PJ and the others in the (why) group need to go start a WHY CTE WORKS THREAD and I wont bother with your thread. All the
skeptics can work in harmony together.Problem solved.Would you like me to do this for you?
Petey
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I think the naysayers should go start their own thread about WHY CTE DOESN'T WORK. :D
 
lfigueroa said:
Please don't do anything for me. And of course you are free to start any thread you like. Or, as in the case John, even go so far as to build your own yahoo tree house to discuss The CTE Secrets you don't want THEM to know.

I'll probably be wherever the party is :-)

Lou Figueroa
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My point exactly
 
JoeyA said:
I think the naysayers should go start their own thread about WHY CTE DOESN'T WORK. :D
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I think someone did and it got locked up.

The follow up got moved.

So here we is.

Lou Figueroa
I know, I know
stalker, stalker, stalker
 
lfigueroa said:
I am interested in the how and the why.

How 'bout you? If you're one of the ones that are just happy the system "works" and allows you to rocket balls in from everywhere, and you don't care how/why it works, why is you here...

Lou Figueroa
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Ok, so you are here because you are interested in learning the how/why of Cte. I was under the impression you are here just to bash the system and the people using it, my mistake then and i apologize to you sir :)

Im here to learn more about it and its kind of hard when there are certain people spamming the shit out the thread with there uninformed opinions and not realizing this could have been one of the best AZ threads ever :)
 
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