CTE/ PRO ONE with Stan Shuffett

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JoeyA said:
dr_dave said:
Joey,

FYI, I added the link for you in your quote above. :p

I'm surprised you include me in the "Naysayers" group. For a long time, I have agreed that CTE works, and I have worked really hard to try to help explain how and why it does work. I know that many of the true "Naysayers" don't like that I say that "CTE works," but it does. It also provides many benefits to some people.

Now, I have also mocked many of the outrageous and unsubstantiated claims made by some of the CTE proponents. In my opinion, these claims and "marketing strategies" are bad for pool. IMO, they reflect poorly on pool's image.

I honestly hope Stan's DVD provides additional insight, beyond what I have posted on the CTE resource page, concerning how and why his version of CTE works. It will also be nice to actually find out what Pro-One really is, because absolutely nothing meaningful (not even a simple, clear, and concise description) has been shared to date, IMO.

Regards,
Dave
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YOUR constant commercializing of the forum is making me SICK. :barf:

If anyone wants to learn about CTE/Pro One, they can order a DVD by Stan Shuffett or do like I did and get a lesson from him in person. (The lesson is more expensive but is probably better for people who are not as smart as Dr. Dave). :p

Stan is the best information source for CTE Pro One (ONLY SOURCE FOR CTE/PRO ONE), best instructor and PLAYS TOP SPEED POOL and you can order by clicking here. :wink:
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Joey,

If a reasonable person looks at the wealth of free information provided on my noncommercial website, and then looks at the numerous posts you have made like this, it will be clear to him or her what is "commercialism" and what is not.

For the record, I'm not generally opposed to "commercialism," but I am opposed to some of the CTE "marketing" we have seen over these many years.

Very disappointed in Joey right now, :confused:
Dave
 
JoeyA said:
And you, what the heck are you doing giving the 30 degree rule away for free? I can't believe it.............
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I believe Spocks original version that he "claimed" was taught to him by Hal was better than any I have seen to date. You will notice he uses four fingers. It's twice as sturdy as anything else out there for sure! :wink:
 
I do find your position in this cte debate strange dr dave? Why have you not totally researched Cte when you first herd about it or when eezbank put his video out since you seem to have made pool such a big part of your life? I dont mean this as an attack, im just curious?
 
JoeyA said:
I don't think I have a right to discuss your lack of religious convictions in this forum or anyone else's.
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Dave didn't discuss anybody's personal convictions, but this is the second time you've discussed mine without reason. I think you're guilty of what you falsely accuse Dave of.

Throwing out parodies about God and "God jokes" about CTE or anything else in this forum is in poor taste and shows a lack of respect for those who do believe in a higher power.
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It is not and does not.

Your continuous ridiculing and knocking of CTE users hasn't gone unnoticed either. (Thank goodness I appreciate the investment of your time in pool.)
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Your misleading half truths about this haven't gone unnoticed either. CTE users' arguments about things they clearly know nothing about are ridiculed, and rightfully so - not the mere fact that they're CTE users. (But ditto on your investment in pool.)

Me? (just so you know) I'm a poor excuse for a Christian, but one nevertheless, warts and all.
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This "me so humble" pose would be more believable if the rest of your recent posts weren't so "holier than thou".

pj
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Yes you could. GB gives you the vector. You would need a compensation factor for throw effect (gearing) as a bi-product of friction between cueball and object ball. This is done all the time in motion/robotics applications...were you have "Stiction" and tool flex that takes the target off the optimun path etc.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stiction

JB Cases said:
The question of Sniper's has no merit and as such deserves no answer.

However if you want to speak about these thing philosophically then someday robots will be "programmed" to do everything humans can do. Therefore if a human can use something called "CTE" to pocket balls then a robot can someday also use something called "CTE" to pocket balls. The human is not defying physics when they pocket the balls using the CTE method.

Can you program a robot to pocket balls using the GB method? How would that look and what sensory devices would you have to put in place? In fact what would you do to create robot that can pocket balls at all?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OlGQ02vRlc0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J70p-dCfi_s
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AENJxqR0g48

CTE aside, what instructor or person wouldn't want to have the Augmented Reality option? Virtual Pool made real.

Let me remind you that if you do want to build a robot to use CTE then you will need to know CTE first so that you are starting with the correct parameters.

You can find a great resource right here for that, www.justcueit.com to buy Stan Shuffet's Pro1 DVD.
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Your misleading half truths about this haven't gone unnoticed either. CTE users' arguments about things they clearly know nothing about are ridiculed, and rightfully so - not the mere fact that they're CTE users.




pj
chgo[/QUOTE]

And what leads you to beleive I dont know what I am talking about?
If you care to ask spidey, you will find I DO KNOW WHAT I AM
TALKING ABOUT when it comes to CTE
Petey
 
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Benefits of CTE

CTE if used properly......
1. Makes player aware of his distance from the table.
Which in return causes a player to STEP into the shot at the proper distances .
2. CTE helps a player turn into the shot from the correct side
3. CTE causes a player to use correct and consistant bridge lengths
4. I could go on, but what other system even gives you this?
 
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;) Just a little play off EEZ's post earlier. Let's get back to being serious: Dr. Dave, that 30-deg peace sign is straight-up worthless when it comes to playing pool. I guess the jury's still out on CTE--- but the peace-sign at the table is as worthless as dog-poop soup. :thumbup:

IN ALL SERIOUSNESS THOUGH---we should all learn to get along and stop the flame wars. Excluding the peace sign gimmick, we need to give each other a big hug. ;)


p.s. hopefully everyone knows i'm kidding - the peace sign is the mac.
 
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CTE users' arguments about things they clearly know nothing about are ridiculed, and rightfully so - not the mere fact that they're CTE users.

pj
chgo
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Petey:
And what leads you to beleive I dont know what I am talking about?
If you care to ask spidey, you will find I DO KNOW WHAT I AM
TALKING ABOUT when it comes to CTE
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Well, you didn't know what I was talking about here. I'm talking about the "geometric logic" that leads to the conclusion that a pivot system like CTE can't be an "exact" system simple enough to be used by pool players. The argument made by CTE users is "it works, so it must be exact", which only proves conclusively that they don't understand the issue.

pj
chgo
 
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Spidey:
the peace-sign at the table is as worthless as dog-poop soup
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For people who can already play. But beginners' eyes light up with discovery when they're shown it. Your perspective is limited.

pj
chgo
 
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