...Bartender looks up and says, "What is this, some kinda joke?"
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CTE/ PRO ONE with Stan Shuffett
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...Bartender looks up and says, "What is this, some kinda joke?"
pj <- be here all week
chgo
Same group of NAYSAYERS. Always the same ones...
New lurkers reading you guys crap must say to themselves, "Why in the world would I want to spend any time on a forum with these kind of people on the forum?"
You guys can't leave a nice, positive, pleasant thread alone.
Shoo! Shoo! Shoo!
JoeyA
Lets just change a couple words here and see what we get.
1. (Pre Shot Routine) Makes player aware of his distance from the table.
Which in return causes a player to STEP into the shot at the proper distances .
2. (Pre Shot Routine) helps a player turn into the shot from the correct side
3. (Pre Shot Routine) causes a player to use correct and consistant bridge lengths
4. I could go on, but what other (Pre shot routine) even gives you this
You saw John wearing shoes??????????????
Musta been a real special occasion!
:wink:
Steve
The video has arrived!
No, not THAT one...........my little stream of consciousness session with my new CTE training device.
The other day I discovered that I have a bit of plastic pipe that a ball will just fit into. So I rigged it up to become a target which spits the ball back out.
I wedged it into the pocket and started messing around. Here is the uncut video.
http://www.vimeo.com/17090438
Just to give you something else to talk about until THE VIDEO gets here or at least for 3 minutes until you get bored.
No, not THAT one...........my little stream of consciousness session with my new CTE training device.
The other day I discovered that I have a bit of plastic pipe that a ball will just fit into. So I rigged it up to become a target which spits the ball back out.
I wedged it into the pocket and started messing around. Here is the uncut video.
http://www.vimeo.com/17090438
Just to give you something else to talk about until THE VIDEO gets here or at least for 3 minutes until you get bored.
Of course you're spinning. #1 you sat down with those guys and when I was done I came over and sat down and we all had a discussion about - who else? - me.
And if you remember you made a few statements that were incorrect about me and had to be corrected by your cohorts.
Whatever Lou. I am really getting so tired of all this. All we do is talk about things that happened and everyone has a different take on it.
If you really wanted to know CTE and how it works then you would have found a way to learn it. To me you only want to hang out and throw your little jibes.
It's really of zero consequence what you think or what I think. I will use whatever I want to when I am at the table and you will do the same.
CTE however will continue to be taught and one by one people will learn it and pass it on to each other. Top notch instructors are now teaching it and so in my mind that vindicates Hal's efforts. For my part I will find other creative and fun ways to promote CTE.
Since you were a press officer for the Pentagon I think you have a clear idea that the message is shaped by the presenter and the channels of distribution.
Threads like these which end up here are worse than useless. Videos on the other hand are far better and allow the presenter to control the message.
So with that I am officially done here. My thoughts on CTE will be carried out on video clips from here on out.
For now I am going to table those thoughts until after I see and absorb Stan's video.
You all have a nice holiday season and remember to stock up on billiards goodies.
JB Cases said:
I know you obviously don't realize it, and are sure to argue, but for several reasons that pipe isn't really much tougher than the pocket would be all by itself. As long as the object ball is more or less in line with the pipe, which it always was, there isn't much difference between the two. Just sayin'...
John,
Thanks for the video effort. You did fine but Stan does a better job, imo. :smile:
Hope you and the family have great Thanksgiving whether you celebrate with the turkey or just some CTE. :grin:
JoeyA
This thread isn't about how CTE works.
Don't you get that?
What is wrong with you?
Maybe you should go start a thread of your own and see if you can get some answers you are looking for. It's not here Lugi.
I don't expect you and the rest of the naysayers to eat the crow meal that continues to grow in size but it will be fun to hear you and the rest of the naysayers say some positive things about CTE/Pro One. :grin::grin::grin:
You'll probably take great pains to explain why it doesn't work and how you were so right in the first place. :grin::grin::grin:
The thing about it is that the ball rolls out of the pipe and it's in line with the pipe so then you can move your cueball around and change the angle of the shot. You can put the cueball anywhere from straight in to 90 degrees and practice all the angles in between. The object ball has to be in line with the pipe because that line represents the middle of the pocket. That's the whole point.
I think that the pipe isn't as tough as it could be. Obviously you can see that if the object ball hits the edge of it then the OB still goes in the pipe so that is a fudge factor. BUT the shooter sees instantly whether the ball went cleanly into the pipe or whether it brushed the edges. And because the ball rolls back out then it's a good way to train.
I think I could make it tougher - for example if I sanded all the edges thin with a bevel towards the outside then it should be less forgiving.
You really have to be on the other side shooting into it to appreciate it as a good training tool and to see the possibilities.
As I said though this was really nothing more than me messing around. When I have time I will refine it and play around some more.
Duckie is the one that called for something like this and here it is. If you or anyone else has some suggestions as to how to make it tougher then feel free to let me know. I have a laser cutter and can make all sorts of training devices and templates.
To me though it does serve as small proof of concept with CTE - albeit with certain "issues" surrounding the fact that the shooter definitely "sees" the pipe-ball-line relationship immediately.
I think a true test would be for the pipe to be hidden from view. An assistant places the object ball in line with the pipe and the cue ball randomly but with a makeable shot - then the shooter comes in only being able to see the cue ball and object ball but not the pipe or the pocket. Use CTE to attempt to pocket the ball.
Anyway, this is fun to play with.
Joey, the thread was derailed about 800 posts ago.
By the way: good to see you back with the big colored fonts again. Your posts are just not the same without them.
Lou Figueroa
You'd better tell John that -- he's out in China shooting balls into pipes in the middle of the night trying to figure it out.
Lou Figueroa
John,
This is a positive step. Something to think about. Thanks for the video. Joey isn't the only one who knows how to highlight. :smile:
Best,
Mike
double trouble.
Joey:
You guys aren't doing the "Dr. Dave thing" right. You have to link every other word or phrase to a page on his website.
J/K!! (Dr. Dave, don't kill me -- just injecting some much-needed levity into this.)
-Sean
Yeah, Dave. If John can post a video of himself rambling incoherently while shooting balls into a tube, so can you.
pj <- do it for world peace
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