What type of joint do you prefer?
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Jamaicans, they hit gooood.
Oh, cue screw? Radial, flat face.
Oh, cue screw? Radial, flat face.
Jamaicans, they hit gooood.
Oh, cue screw? Radial, flat face.
Right now, Same.
Not rolled too tight and about the width of a cig.
No seeds or stems and light green sticky filling lol :thumbup:
No seeds or stems and light green sticky filling lol :thumbup:
Ivory over S.S. half joint.
What he said. I wouldn't have said that 5 years ago, but big pin cues with a wood to wood joint hit the best to me. I've tried and liked this combo with both phenolic collar and ivory. Didn't seem too different. I haven't had the opportunity to try a steel thin walled collar...Tom
I've played with almost every type listed, and can't tell a difference--but apparently most other people can't, either:
From: http://groups.google.com/group/rec.sport.billiard/msg/3a4dbd5e53265c42
John McChesney
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From: "John McChesney" <j...@texasexpress.com>
Date: 1999/06/14
Subject: Re: Metal joint VS wood to wood joint?
Here's something interesting we tried in 1991:
At an event we had 16 cues with the butt, joint and the ferrules covered with masking tape...then numbered. No one could "see" if the cue was a steel, plastic or wood joint (as in a Pete), nor detect by the style of ferrule. We had 70 players...each hit balls with the cues throughout the weekend.
The results:
Of nearly 800 attempts over the time period, the players guessed wrong
about what type joint was in the cue more than 7 out of 10 times.
Newsgroups: rec.sport.billiard
From: "John McChesney" <j...@texasexpress.com>
Date: 1999/06/14
Subject: Re: Metal joint VS wood to wood joint?
Here's something interesting we tried in 1991:
At an event we had 16 cues with the butt, joint and the ferrules covered with masking tape...then numbered. No one could "see" if the cue was a steel, plastic or wood joint (as in a Pete), nor detect by the style of ferrule. We had 70 players...each hit balls with the cues throughout the weekend.
The results:
Of nearly 800 attempts over the time period, the players guessed wrong
about what type joint was in the cue more than 7 out of 10 times.
From: http://groups.google.com/group/rec.sport.billiard/msg/3a4dbd5e53265c42
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Just because they couldn't identify the different joint types doesn't mean they all felt the same, or that those players didn't have a preference based solely on feel and sound.
This would be a good way to fit a player to a joint. Have them try different types without prejudice and then they pick the one that feels the best. Then show them what type it was. Some people might be surprised.
The best feeling cue I ever owned had a flat-faced ivory joint, so that's what I picked.
"Other" votes
I had to vote "other" on this, as "wood/wood" would give the wrong impression. My "other" is a Ron Kilby cue: wood threaded screw on the shaft goes into wood threaded hole in the butt.
There was one other "other" vote, and I was wondering what it was?
I had to vote "other" on this, as "wood/wood" would give the wrong impression. My "other" is a Ron Kilby cue: wood threaded screw on the shaft goes into wood threaded hole in the butt.
There was one other "other" vote, and I was wondering what it was?
Secaucus Fats
Banned
My favorite is a piloted radial wood to wood like Murray Tucker makes for his cues.
Wood to wood with Radial or standard 3/8/10
They are not the same. A piloted shaft has a "pilot" sticking out of it. A normal 5/16-14 is flat faced. See below.
Many cue makers built 5/16X14 piloted joints with just a brass insert or a bit of wood sticking out, i.e., the pilot. These are not flat faced, since the face of the joint has a pilot (on the shaft) and a recess (on the butt)
On this shaft, the pilot is rounded, but there isn't alot of brass showing (but there is some wood showing)
On this shaft, more brass showing (but there is still some wood showing)
On this shaft, there is almost NO wood showing, and only the pilot is showing
A piloted joint:
Just the butt
Here are some examples of some different joints:
An example of radial flat faced joint:
An example of 5/16X14 flat faced joint:
An example of 3/8X10 flat faced joint:
-td