Whats your definition of a ERO (Eightball Run Out)

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I run a league and I am having hard time explaining to my players what a ERO is. They just dont get it.
 
I have always known it as Earned Run Out.. as in you ran all of the balls off the table in 9 ball or ran your full suit+8 from a full table of balls in 8 ball. in a single inning of course
 
By a full table, that means if the breaker makes something on the break and then misses his next shot even though it is still an open table and you run out that is not an ERO since all 15 balls weren't on the table when you shot. Also an ERO has to be the first turn at the table. You can't have an ERO in the second inning even if there are still 15 balls on the table.
 
My understanding was a table run is running all your balls out in one inning, after a break that a ball was not pocketed on, by your opponent.

A break run is just that....running break to 8.

There are pins available for both.

Lisa
 
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My league only considers it an ERO if all 15 balls are on the table & the player runs all 8 balls the first time to the table, than its consider an ERO. Hope this helps you out.
 
By a full table, that means if the breaker makes something on the break and then misses his next shot even though it is still an open table and you run out that is not an ERO since all 15 balls weren't on the table when you shot.

Also an ERO has to be the first turn at the table. You can't have an ERO in the second inning even if there are still 15 balls on the table.


Why should it only be the 1st turn ?? As long as ALL balls are still on the table then you still have to deal with the "traffic" whether it's your 1st turn or your 3rd turn.

If ALL balls still on table then we count 'em & pay 'em no matter what "turn" it is. We just call it a "table run".
 
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FWIW, 'ERO' stands for 'early run out'. The VNEA league rules define it as stated earlier in the thread. 1) First turn at table 2) All 15 balls on table.

I don't know if other leagues use this term, but that's how VNEA defines it.

-s
 
Eight ball run out would be running down to the eight and dogging the nine. Losing your cash and your mind on the same shot. Disgraced, shamefully you work your way past the glaring eyes of your team mates down the hallway of darkness with your ego crushed and your cue stick in pieces.
As long as there are all the stripes or solids on the table, running your set of balls during one inning and then properly calling and making the eight ball would be an eight ball run out in eight ball. There are many varied ways to play eight ball. There was a rule many years ago that as long as you ran all 14 balls on the table and then pocketed the call eight in the correct hole, you won. How about 1&15? Last pocket?
 
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Why should it only be the 1st turn ?? As long as ALL balls are still on the table then you still have to deal with the "traffic" whether it's your 1st turn or your 3rd turn.

If ALL balls still on table then we count 'em & pay 'em no matter what "turn" it is. We just call it a "table run".

I don't know why that's just the way it is in the league's that I play in.
 
One of 2 things: you break and run all your balls or your opponent breaks dry and you run all your balls.

In the league I play in thats what we define an ERO as. I would guess that the reason it would not count if lets say you and your opponent had a few cracks at the table with out sinking anything, and then one of you got a shot and "ran out" is because you have had a few shots at the table to muck about.
In the league i play in you get i think 3 extra points tallied on to your over all score for and ERO (there is a whole weighted average thing and i could go on and on but i won't) there is then an ERO Against score, and a 1st attempt score to but i ramble
 
An eight ball run is running all seven of your group and the eight in a single inning. For instance...

You break dry, I run all the stripes and the eight in a single inning... 8 ball run...

I break, make a solid, shoot all the stripes and the eight in a single inning... 8 ball run...

I break dry, you make five stripes, then miss... I run all the solid and the eight in a single inning... 8 ball run...

You break, make all the stripes, but dog the eight. I make all of my solids and the eight in a single inning... 8 ball run...

Regardless of how many innings prior to the sentences above, or how many balls your opponent has on the table, an eight ball run is running all seven of your group and the eight in a single inning.
 
One of 2 things: you break and run all your balls or your opponent breaks dry and you run all your balls.

+1

I think it's in your first inning because if you get up and smack the balls around a couple times they are more likely to be freed up and closer to pockets. Thus making it "easier" to run out. Thats just my thought;)
 
The players in my league as long as you run out from your own group its a ERO even though the other guy has pocked 1-7 balls. I have tried to explain this several times, but they dont agree.
 
Our league it was always your first trip to the table, they are still open, you run out. If the other guy breaks, pockets a ball, and cue ball flies off the table...they are still open and you can ERO. If he breaks, pockets a ball, then misses (still open) it isn't an ERO.
 
Our league it was always your first trip to the table, they are still open, you run out. If the other guy breaks, pockets a ball, and cue ball flies off the table...they are still open and you can ERO. If he breaks, pockets a ball, then misses (still open) it isn't an ERO.

This is similar to how our league works. You are credited with a run out if you're out on your first trip to the table. You can either break and run, or if your opponent breaks, makes a few balls and misses, and you get to the table and run out. Either way you are credited with a run. Out in 1 trip to the table = run.
 
correct

One of 2 things: you break and run all your balls or your opponent breaks dry and you run all your balls.

This is the correct defition above. As long as all 15 balls are on the table, when you start your first turn at the table. It also does NOT matter if the breaker scratches as long as he don't pocket any other balls.
 
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