THAT makes sense to me. Did Stan even say that in the DVD??? I don't know if he did because I think I would have understood that. So thats what he means by 'lock in the edges'?
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THAT makes sense to me. Did Stan even say that in the DVD??? I don't know if he did because I think I would have understood that. So thats what he means by 'lock in the edges'?
Does "straddling the CTEL" mean the vision center is alligned with the CTEL? Yes or No?
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The more I learn about CTE the less I like it as a system for myself. It seems to be Hal Houle's old "3 angles" system (Stan even says it's based on that) with fewer angles and feel's part in it a little more cleverly obscured.I can tell you are now very interested in learning this system and i can tell you see a lot of potential in it
I do like some aspects of it (I'll describe them later), but they're not unique to CTE and I don't think a system that actively obscures reality is the best way to learn them for most players.
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the ctel is different on those shots, you are describing! center to right edge, center to left edge, different reference points and pivots!
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If you move 6 inches to the right, you can't "see" any CTE line. There's only one (well, two since there are two OB edges).
OMG.
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I don't understand! The balls remain in the same position yet you say the CTEL moves. That makes no sense. No one can even pin down where the eyes are supposed to be, yet this is supposed to be an exact aiming system. It's becoming clear that feel is involved even as to the initial eye placement - somewhere between the CTEL and SL. "Straddling the CTEL" is not meaningful, much less exact. Good nite, men!
pablocruz (you know, the guy I was talking to) said that we can see different CTE lines formed by the same stationary balls. Are you agreeing with him? Or are you acting stupid on purpose?
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ok, you disagree with the way he has hidden the feel part of the system, that ok with me. I am not concerned about the feel part or exact part that everyone is making a big deal about. Yes he says in the dvd hal helped him. By what you are posting i do believe you know this has great potential and is not flawed once learned and I think you can bring a lot of positives to this whole cte stuff if you stop with the negatives and go with the positives!
i added but i guess you didnt see it so here it is.
the ctel is different on those shots, you are describing! center to right edge, center to left edge, different reference points and pivots!
If you end up with your eyes on the edge-to-aimpoint line, why not start there? What's the purpose of starting with your eyes on the CTE line?
If the edge-to-aimpoint line is the view that puts your eyes in position to see the CB's "aiming center", then what part does the CTE line play in finding this perspective?
Why the seemingly needless steps in the process?
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Two of them are the same.
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On a straighter cut, your pool brain knows you need to face in the direction which aligns the balls for a fuller hit. This allows A or C to be obvious on one edge of the cue ball. For a thinner cut, your set up gravitates to a line where the edge of the object ball is used. This establishes B in your visuals.
There won't be a flashing arrow. If they are not there, move your eyes until they are. Poke your head out. Your body will follow. It's a small move. Is your body angled toward the shot :yes: or are you standing square?
I use both eyes to sight the lines. Left for left edge, right for right edge. Once you establish your visuals, figure out your pivot direction. If it's not right, you guessed it. Use the other way.
At first you will steer the cue ball like grandpa behind the wheel. It happens to everybody. Trust your alignment and after a while it will become more natural.
Best,
Mike
There won't be a flashing arrow. If they are not there, move your eyes until they are. Poke your head out. Your body will follow. It's a small move. Is your body angled toward the shot :yes: or are you standing square?
I use both eyes to sight the lines. Left for left edge, right for right edge. Once you establish your visuals, figure out your pivot direction. If it's not right, you guessed it. Use the other way.
At first you will steer the cue ball like grandpa behind the wheel. It happens to everybody. Trust your alignment and after a while it will become more natural.
Best,
Mike
well there is only center to right or left edge of the object ball, i assumed we all know this?
No they are not!! But you must argue every point!! I am done with you!!
"Stop with the negatives" means stop asking questions about CTE that its users can't answer? Those "negatives" are CTE's, not mine.
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In other words, learn it by feel.
There's nothing wrong with that except that it's been denied for so long.
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Because the system is based on visual consistency to allow your body to set up in the proper position to pocket the ball. Your brain uses this repetitive information to establish an alignment by learning through experience.
Both eyes are involved in shooting. By sighting only one reference, you are cheating the mind of the necessary feedback to line up correctly on the ball. You are not aiming fractionally. Let your body set up by following what the eyes see, not by what you think the contact point is.
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Mike
See now your back to this feel thing again
common drop this point you seem obsessed with.
I can see different cte lines from 2 stationary balls.
So there is no specific place to position your eyes? Just "learn through experience"? At what point did we leave the systematic part of the system behind?
What the hell does that mean?
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