PRO ONE DVD: Answering Questions

Please leave my name out of any of this "make a drill video" baloney. I don't play pool to get good at drills. On the rare occasion I do drills I do it to get good at pool. And all a drill means is that you get good at doing that particular drill. Given enough time and effort you can get good at the line of balls up table drill; the L drill; the circle drill; the cross drill; the balls on the rail drill; the don't-hit-a-rail drill; and so forth. Proficiency at one or all doesn't mean you can run eight and out when the heat is on; run a 5-pack to win when your opponent is on the hill, or run 100 at 14.1. It certainly proves nothing about the exactness, soundness, or efficacy of an aiming system.

The bottom line test is playing a game of pool well. And that is a matter of proving who strokes better; is able to consistently execute better; has more experience; knows more shots; and yes, aims better. But the aiming is just one component of a complex whole and that is what makes all this CTE baloney so stupid -- it's like saying whoever has the best GPS has the best car.

Lou Figueroa
not making any vids
just to make Spider happy

Between you correcting Gene, correcting the pool school format and letting everyone here know that aiming is only a small part of pool ---- you should be awarded the azb nobel prize for knowing everything.
 
Between you correcting Gene, correcting the pool school format and letting everyone here know that aiming is only a small part of pool ---- you should be awarded the azb nobel prize for knowing everything.

lmao
sure he does ^^
 
One large benefit with using the Cte/Pro One system doesn't get talked about very much. It's a byproduct of using the visual alignments correctly and remains as a good habit even if you don't use the method. It is using both eyes to aim each shot using the reference points.

The majority of pool players use both eyes to aim with a dominant eye usually directing the traffic. Several factors can cause the non-dominant eye to move into visual control. This can cause the player to become inconsistent and drive an easy shot into a rail. Fatigue, age and/or loss of eye strength in the dominant eye, and poor preshot routine/shot approach contribute to incorrect visual alignments.

Cte/Pro One uses an initial visual setup that has the user looking at two different reference points. This is best accomplished by sharing the work with both eyes and establishing a method of cooperation between them, so to speak. Each eye has its specific target and doesn't try to interfere with the other's input. After learning this mutually acceptable method, a player can retain this ability even when they don't use the system.

In Cte/Pro One, the player will still have a dominant eye, but it doesn't have to compete for attention like a small child. No surprises when you get down on a routine shot. The tendency to place your head and eyes in different positions for every shot is removed and a consistent visual baseline is established.

If you are one of those players that can play like Buddy one night, and the very next night feel like you want to quit because you SUCK, it's your alignment. The eyes are seeing something different every night you play. The game hasn't changed. It just doesn't look the same.

It may be because you had a long day at work...that four letter word to pool players. Or you approach the shot wrong, enabling your non-dominant eye to take over the aiming. Poor eyesight can also be a factor, but I've seen some blind men never miss for hours!

This reward for learning Cte/Pro One will stay with you whether you use the system or not. If you are having trouble getting the method and struggle to pocket balls with it, realize you are using both eyes and let the mind accept this. Don't fight to use your dominant eye so hard. It is an easy, natural method that can help your game and improve your consistency.

Best,
Mike
 
Between you correcting Gene, correcting the pool school format and letting everyone here know that aiming is only a small part of pool ---- you should be awarded the azb nobel prize for knowing everything.


Geno is what Geno is. The pool school I didn't correct anything. And the issue of aiming only being a small part of pool is obvious to anyone who has played the game long enough and can actually run some balls.

And you are what you are too -- an overgrown frat boy who desperately wants to be recognized for something, anything, in pool, but can't quite get anyone to make a cartoon starring you.

Now go play with the spider ;-)

Lou Figueroa
 
One large benefit with using the Cte/Pro One system doesn't get talked about very much. It's a byproduct of using the visual alignments correctly and remains as a good habit even if you don't use the method. It is using both eyes to aim each shot using the reference points.

The majority of pool players use both eyes to aim with a dominant eye usually directing the traffic. Several factors can cause the non-dominant eye to move into visual control. This can cause the player to become inconsistent and drive an easy shot into a rail. Fatigue, age and/or loss of eye strength in the dominant eye, and poor preshot routine/shot approach contribute to incorrect visual alignments.

Cte/Pro One uses an initial visual setup that has the user looking at two different reference points. This is best accomplished by sharing the work with both eyes and establishing a method of cooperation between them, so to speak. Each eye has its specific target and doesn't try to interfere with the other's input. After learning this mutually acceptable method, a player can retain this ability even when they don't use the system.

In Cte/Pro One, the player will still have a dominant eye, but it doesn't have to compete for attention like a small child. No surprises when you get down on a routine shot. The tendency to place your head and eyes in different positions for every shot is removed and a consistent visual baseline is established.

If you are one of those players that can play like Buddy one night, and the very next night feel like you want to quit because you SUCK, it's your alignment. The eyes are seeing something different every night you play. The game hasn't changed. It just doesn't look the same.

It may be because you had a long day at work...that four letter word to pool players. Or you approach the shot wrong, enabling your non-dominant eye to take over the aiming. Poor eyesight can also be a factor, but I've seen some blind men never miss for hours!

This reward for learning Cte/Pro One will stay with you whether you use the system or not. If you are having trouble getting the method and struggle to pocket balls with it, realize you are using both eyes and let the mind accept this. Don't fight to use your dominant eye so hard. It is an easy, natural method that can help your game and improve your consistency.

Best,
Mike
Do you have any factual support for all this speculation?

pj
chgo
 
Do you have any factual support for all this speculation?

pj
chgo

Is this a rebuttal or just trolling, again? If you're trying to stalk me, I'll take that as a compliment. I didn't realize you felt so threatened...or should I say, defensive? :wave:

Best,
Mike

Spell check is still off.
 
One large benefit with using the Cte/Pro One system doesn't get talked about very much. It's a byproduct of using the visual alignments correctly and remains as a good habit even if you don't use the method. It is using both eyes to aim each shot using the reference points.

The majority of pool players use both eyes to aim with a dominant eye usually directing the traffic. Several factors can cause the non-dominant eye to move into visual control. This can cause the player to become inconsistent and drive an easy shot into a rail. Fatigue, age and/or loss of eye strength in the dominant eye, and poor preshot routine/shot approach contribute to incorrect visual alignments.

Cte/Pro One uses an initial visual setup that has the user looking at two different reference points. This is best accomplished by sharing the work with both eyes and establishing a method of cooperation between them, so to speak. Each eye has its specific target and doesn't try to interfere with the other's input. After learning this mutually acceptable method, a player can retain this ability even when they don't use the system.

In Cte/Pro One, the player will still have a dominant eye, but it doesn't have to compete for attention like a small child. No surprises when you get down on a routine shot. The tendency to place your head and eyes in different positions for every shot is removed and a consistent visual baseline is established.

If you are one of those players that can play like Buddy one night, and the very next night feel like you want to quit because you SUCK, it's your alignment. The eyes are seeing something different every night you play. The game hasn't changed. It just doesn't look the same.

It may be because you had a long day at work...that four letter word to pool players. Or you approach the shot wrong, enabling your non-dominant eye to take over the aiming. Poor eyesight can also be a factor, but I've seen some blind men never miss for hours!

This reward for learning Cte/Pro One will stay with you whether you use the system or not. If you are having trouble getting the method and struggle to pocket balls with it, realize you are using both eyes and let the mind accept this. Don't fight to use your dominant eye so hard. It is an easy, natural method that can help your game and improve your consistency.

Best,
Mike

So, you are implying that someone that does not aim with CTE/Pro1 are not using both their eyes to aim, but just their dominant eye?

More nonsense.
 
Geno is what Geno is. The pool school I didn't correct anything. And the issue of aiming only being a small part of pool is obvious to anyone who has played the game long enough and can actually run some balls.

And you are what you are too -- an overgrown frat boy who desperately wants to be recognized for something, anything, in pool, but can't quite get anyone to make a cartoon starring you.

Now go play with the spider ;-)

Lou Figueroa

Dude, you know everything. I forgot to mention banking as well (since you battled with Freddy the Beard on the one pocket forum about his technique and the use of side spin).

Maybe I'm an overgrown frat boy --- but at least I never got perma-banned from a pool room for being a know it all big-mouth. hahaha

Now THAT'S funny..... here, here's a little winky for you too:

;-)

Hey Lou, when you get some time, we're all interested in learning more about String Theory and maybe even M-Theory's impact on getting closer to a unified theory. I was going to ask Steven Hawking, but why bother since we have you on staff.
 
So, you are implying that someone that does not aim with CTE/Pro1 are not using both their eyes to aim, but just their dominant eye?

More nonsense.

you are learning well from your mentor Pat. Twist what someone says, then discredit it. And, never answer any questions directed to you. Earlier, you posted some wei tables. Asking how to make those shots, when shown how, you fell silent. I also asked you how to shoot a shot diagrammed using ghost ball, again, silence. Yet, since then you again talk about yet another diagram of a shot you supposedly made, that many have proven impossible. Yet, you still claim you made it.
 
So, you are implying that someone that does not aim with CTE/Pro1 are not using both their eyes to aim, but just their dominant eye?

More nonsense.

Now your starting with this "nonsense" thing? Oh yea, i did your one handed shooting with pro1 and it was not problem! I not saying i made every shot but i did it :)
 
Dude, you know everything. I forgot to mention banking as well (since you battled with Freddy the Beard on the one pocket forum about his technique and the use of side spin).

Maybe I'm an overgrown frat boy --- but at least I never got perma-banned from a pool room for being a know it all big-mouth. hahaha

Now THAT'S funny..... here, here's a little winky for you too:

;-)

Hey Lou, when you get some time, we're all interested in learning more about String Theory and maybe even M-Theory's impact on getting closer to a unified theory. I was going to ask Steven Hawking, but why bother since we have you on staff.


Yes, but I think you got banned -- from here -- for the same offense. Besides, the place was a pit. I have moved on to much cleaner and better pastures :-)

By the way, Freddy, though we've battle back and forth over the years, not so much over spin but "wrist induced" OB spin, was kind enough to nominate me a couple of weeks ago to be the onepocket.org sponsored player for the US Open 1Pocket Open in Vegas. I declined because I felt I hadn't been participating enough there as of late and I thought someone else could use the financial support more than me. So, though Freddy and I have disagreed, there has been a modicum of mutual respect.

But you... other than CTE-induced diarrhea of the mouth, what are you known for in pool? I mean, what have you done, or do? See, when I think of a player like say, Joey, even though we poke each other in the eye a lot, I know he is an accomplished player. And IMO, he is entitled to say what he says because of that. But you: all I know is that you have a table in your house and like to make funny videos of yourself and cartoons mocking other people.

So what have you done? I'm not trying to be disrespectful, but you like to mock me, which is fine, but what have you done in pool? And to be perfectly clear: this isn't about who can beat who, either. I'm just trying to figure out what your pool bona fides are.

Do you get out of your house ever and mix it up gambling in town? Across the country? Do you play in tournaments like the DCC, any of the Opens, maybe regional events or tours? Play pro players occasionally? Bar leagues? What? Any titles?

Or do you just like to run your mouth?

Lou Figueroa
 
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Do you have any factual support for all this speculation?

pj
chgo
Is this a rebuttal or just trolling, again? If you're trying to stalk me, I'll take that as a compliment. I didn't realize you felt so threatened...or should I say, defensive?

Best,
Mike

Spell check is still off.
It was a question. Since you don't want to answer, I assume you don't have any factual support for your speculations.

pj
chgo
 
To make sure there is no confusion with Stan's instructions for Cte/Pro One, I would like to start with specific terminology addressing the visual process. Instead of using the words, reference points or alignment points, using aiming points for A,B, and C will be more easily accepted.

In order to help new users of the systems, experienced posters have been using different analogies and visual descriptions to try get a point or idea across with the written word. While this may help some beginning users to grasp system concepts, others may see things in a different matter and become frustrated and confused. Not because they are incapable of completely comprehending the information, but rather it is not being presented in a way they can follow and learn easily.

In the future, I will make the effort to use aiming points in my description of A,B,C, etc. This post is a follow up to my previous post, and I want to make several more ideas available to Cte/Pro One users about visuals, soon. This will help get basic principles of Stan's systems out there so they're not lost in these threads.

Best,
Mike
 
Great post Mike.. I think this is where I get the most benefit from using CTE.. I don't really consider it an aiming system as much as a system that allows me to be aligned correctly and consistently..

YMMV..


JoeyK




One large benefit with using the Cte/Pro One system doesn't get talked about very much. It's a byproduct of using the visual alignments correctly and remains as a good habit even if you don't use the method. It is using both eyes to aim each shot using the reference points.

The majority of pool players use both eyes to aim with a dominant eye usually directing the traffic. Several factors can cause the non-dominant eye to move into visual control. This can cause the player to become inconsistent and drive an easy shot into a rail. Fatigue, age and/or loss of eye strength in the dominant eye, and poor preshot routine/shot approach contribute to incorrect visual alignments.

Cte/Pro One uses an initial visual setup that has the user looking at two different reference points. This is best accomplished by sharing the work with both eyes and establishing a method of cooperation between them, so to speak. Each eye has its specific target and doesn't try to interfere with the other's input. After learning this mutually acceptable method, a player can retain this ability even when they don't use the system.

In Cte/Pro One, the player will still have a dominant eye, but it doesn't have to compete for attention like a small child. No surprises when you get down on a routine shot. The tendency to place your head and eyes in different positions for every shot is removed and a consistent visual baseline is established.

If you are one of those players that can play like Buddy one night, and the very next night feel like you want to quit because you SUCK, it's your alignment. The eyes are seeing something different every night you play. The game hasn't changed. It just doesn't look the same.

It may be because you had a long day at work...that four letter word to pool players. Or you approach the shot wrong, enabling your non-dominant eye to take over the aiming. Poor eyesight can also be a factor, but I've seen some blind men never miss for hours!

This reward for learning Cte/Pro One will stay with you whether you use the system or not. If you are having trouble getting the method and struggle to pocket balls with it, realize you are using both eyes and let the mind accept this. Don't fight to use your dominant eye so hard. It is an easy, natural method that can help your game and improve your consistency.

Best,
Mike
 
Is this a rebuttal or just trolling, again? If you're trying to stalk me, I'll take that as a compliment. I didn't realize you felt so threatened...or should I say, defensive? :wave:

Best,
Mike

Spell check is still off.

Silky is still trolling.
 

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Speculative or not, this theory sounds good to me.

Roger

One large benefit with using the Cte/Pro One system doesn't get talked about very much. It's a byproduct of using the visual alignments correctly and remains as a good habit even if you don't use the method. It is using both eyes to aim each shot using the reference points.

The majority of pool players use both eyes to aim with a dominant eye usually directing the traffic. Several factors can cause the non-dominant eye to move into visual control. This can cause the player to become inconsistent and drive an easy shot into a rail. Fatigue, age and/or loss of eye strength in the dominant eye, and poor preshot routine/shot approach contribute to incorrect visual alignments.

Cte/Pro One uses an initial visual setup that has the user looking at two different reference points. This is best accomplished by sharing the work with both eyes and establishing a method of cooperation between them, so to speak. Each eye has its specific target and doesn't try to interfere with the other's input. After learning this mutually acceptable method, a player can retain this ability even when they don't use the system.

In Cte/Pro One, the player will still have a dominant eye, but it doesn't have to compete for attention like a small child. No surprises when you get down on a routine shot. The tendency to place your head and eyes in different positions for every shot is removed and a consistent visual baseline is established.

If you are one of those players that can play like Buddy one night, and the very next night feel like you want to quit because you SUCK, it's your alignment. The eyes are seeing something different every night you play. The game hasn't changed. It just doesn't look the same.

It may be because you had a long day at work...that four letter word to pool players. Or you approach the shot wrong, enabling your non-dominant eye to take over the aiming. Poor eyesight can also be a factor, but I've seen some blind men never miss for hours!

This reward for learning Cte/Pro One will stay with you whether you use the system or not. If you are having trouble getting the method and struggle to pocket balls with it, realize you are using both eyes and let the mind accept this. Don't fight to use your dominant eye so hard. It is an easy, natural method that can help your game and improve your consistency.

Best,
Mike
 
So, you are implying that someone that does not aim with CTE/Pro1 are not using both their eyes to aim, but just their dominant eye?

More nonsense.

I don't think that is what Mikjary is saying at all, duckie. I think he is saying that CTE/ProOne helps you step into every shot in a way that naturally gets your eyes in the correct position. I may be wrong, but that's how I read his post.

Roger
 
Speculative or not, this theory sounds good to me.

Roger
Sure, what's not to like about a system that fixes a common visualization problem even when you're not using the system?

But there's no actual evidence I know of that CTE does this, or even that the problem exists in the first place (or that Mikjary knows anything at all about this topic) - yet this CTE "benefit" is presented as if it's known fact.

pj
chgo
 
Sure, what's not to like about a system that fixes a common visualization problem even when you're not using the system?

But there's no actual evidence I know of that CTE does this, or even that the problem exists in the first place (or that Mikjary knows anything at all about this topic) - yet this CTE "benefit" is presented as if it's known fact.

pj
chgo

You wouldn't know actual evidence because you never actually used CTE. This benefit is known by actual CTE users.
 
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