SECRETS of pool.

JoeyA

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First off, I am not a great banker. I've taken banking lessons from the world's best banker and others.

I've always had trouble in banking consistently well, even though I put in a large amount of time practicing banks.

I have increased my ability to bank by experimentation. I thought that my recent improvement was just another epiphany that would evaporate into thin air or that it was just a unique "fix" for my inadequacies at banking.

Two nights ago, I shared my "new" idea with a D player because I wanted to see if I could help their game immediately. Within 15 minutes, I had the C/D player banking better than they had ever banked before, making some shots, but almost always getting the object ball closer to the hole on practically every shot.

I will have to test this new method of banking under fire before I start giving lessons, writing books or making instructional tours with Mark Cantrill.

One night ago, a top player shared some information on making certain shots that I might never have been able to achieve if it had not been for me showing how he made the shots. I've taken an oath to not share the information, at least at this time. :D

The purpose of me writing this is not to tell you how I have improved my game. My game is a mixed bag and while I am always seeking ways to improve, improvements for me, come far too slowly. It must be in the genes.

The purpose of me writing this is to encourage all of you to seek knowledge wherever you can find it. Instructors aren't the devils that some people would have you believe. They and others have knowledge that we don't have and you never know where that next piece of knowledge is going to come from.

I've learned from rocket scientists and from knuckleheads. I will never be a world champion but it sure has been fun learning from everyone including those of you who post here in this forum. I've also been disappointed with what I have learned from some excellent players. It may have been my failings as a student but I think one of the problems a pool sensei has is that he does not always know what you do not know. Sometimes, people just won't teach you their secrets. As I age, I become even more convinced that there are secrets out there that can be taught and learned. Hitting a million balls is a good thing, but having someone teach you some of their secrets, makes the hitting of a million balls, all the more pleasureful.

JoeyA
 
First off, I am not a great banker. I've taken banking lessons from the world's best banker and others.

I've always had trouble in banking consistently well, even though I put in a large amount of time practicing banks.

I have increased my ability to bank by experimentation. I thought that my recent improvement was just another epiphany that would evaporate into thin air or that it was just a unique "fix" for my inadequacies at banking.

Two nights ago, I shared my "new" idea with a D player because I wanted to see if I could help their game immediately. Within 15 minutes, I had the C/D player banking better than they had ever banked before, making some shots, but almost always getting the object ball closer to the hole on practically every shot.

I will have to test this new method of banking under fire before I start giving lessons, writing books or making instructional tours with Mark Cantrill.

One night ago, a top player shared some information on making certain shots that I might never have been able to achieve if it had not been for me showing how he made the shots. I've taken an oath to not share the information, at least at this time. :D

The purpose of me writing this is not to tell you how I have improved my game. My game is a mixed bag and while I am always seeking ways to improve, improvements for me, come far too slowly. It must be in the genes.

The purpose of me writing this is to encourage all of you to seek knowledge wherever you can find it. Instructors aren't the devils that some people would have you believe. They and others have knowledge that we don't have and you never know where that next piece of knowledge is going to come from.

I've learned from rocket scientists and from knuckleheads. I will never be a world champion but it sure has been fun learning from everyone including those of you who post here in this forum. I've also been disappointed with what I have learned from some excellent players. It may have been my failings as a student but I think one of the problems a pool sensei has is that he does not always know what you do not know. Sometimes, people just won't teach you their secrets. As I age, I become even more convinced that there are secrets out there that can be taught and learned. Hitting a million balls is a good thing, but having someone teach you some of their secrets, makes the hitting of a million balls, all the more pleasureful.

JoeyA

Pool senseis will crack eventually...they all have soft spots.
 
A new secret I wonder how much this is going to cost. I guess as a mere mortal I will just have to wait for the DVD. :wink:
 
I like it when players get together and share shots with each other. It can be like a game of basketball horse..'here-try this one...' I'm sure the better players don't share everything, but that's OK.

Every little bit helps.
 
I like it when players get together and share shots with each other. It can be like a game of basketball horse..'here-try this one...' I'm sure the better players don't share everything, but that's OK.

Every little bit helps.

What's also nice is when the player sticks with you and continues to show you how it's done until you get it right. :banghead:
 
What's also nice is when the player sticks with you and continues to show you how it's done until you get it right. :banghead:

I asked Tony Fargo once about a particular bank he rarely missed. The shot had to be pinched and the cue ball killed.
his response was,"Just put English on any bank you have doubt about"!!!
I have never asked another question about a shot since!!
 
I have increased my ability to bank by experimentation.
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The purpose of me writing this is to encourage all of you to seek knowledge wherever you can find it.

It would have taken less time to write if you just wrote what you learned about banking that took your game to the next level.
 
No fair! You encourage us to seek knowledge, but are unwilling to share what you have recently learned. I want it all, I want it free, and I want it now! :D
 
It would have taken less time to write if you just wrote what you learned about banking that took your game to the next level.

I'm sorry but what I learned about banking can only be taught one on one and at a very high cost. :p


No fair! You encourage us to seek knowledge, but are unwilling to share what you have recently learned. I want it all, I want it free, and I want it now! :D

Grasshopper,
I share with you the bounty of the ages and you ask for a mere morsel, ignoring the sumptuous banquet before your very eyes. :cool:
 
Grasshopper,
I share with you the bounty of the ages and you ask for a mere morsel, ignoring the sumptuous banquet before your very eyes. :cool:


Fair enough. :)


In all seriousness though, you make some excellent points about the value of instruction and the knowledge of others. I've been taught things about this game that I'm sure would never had occured to me in a lifetime of hitting balls. It always blows my mind when I see people who have been shooting pool their entire life and are still hardly able to run a rack of 9-ball. I believe it's simply because they never bothered to LEARN about the game and the correct way to play it, and all their years of trial and error just didn't get them very far.
 
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