New Room in Thailand-Suggestions

Monto P2

Asia Billiards
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I am planning to open a new pool room in chiangmai, Thailand. There was a nice place here before but closed down.
My place will have just one table,so this will be only place having a 9ft table in this city.

I am looking for decorating ideas and would like to see some pics of people having small rooms.

I also would be happy for any suggestions like name of the place, colors for walls etc etc

I would also accept gifts for decoratiing the room, like signs, soveineirs:thumbup::thumbup:
 
Congrats Monto !!!!

I'll be anxious to check out your new place. Any idea when you will open?

Let me know if you want me to deliver anything from the USA. I'll be in Chiang Mai next month.
 
Think I'm coming there on thurs..

I'd go with 1 table, blue or green felt, decent lighting, enough room so you don't hit any walls. Some music, maybe a list people can put there name on and play, since it's only 1 table. Play 8 ball is probably best. Decent house cues, put acceptable felt on. Sure I'm missing sth.
 
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your missing a straight rail table' why are you going with one table? is there only room for one table? I have not heard of a pool room with only one table' maybe only in Thailand.... what table do you plan on having....GC?
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Rob.M
 
I am planning to open a new pool room in chiangmai, Thailand. There was a nice place here before but closed down.
My place will have just one table,so this will be only place having a 9ft table in this city.

I am looking for decorating ideas and would like to see some pics of people having small rooms.

I also would be happy for any suggestions like name of the place, colors for walls etc etc

I would also accept gifts for decoratiing the room, like signs, soveineirs:thumbup::thumbup:


i'm real good at designing pool rooms, I have done lots of them. there are a few tricks I know that make them "feel" better too.

Ask Brad how good the one table room at my house in Vegas felt. I can do commercial room, home rooms, and set up's like the new TAR studio. I'm setting up a 2 table room this next week.

Please let me know if I can help.

Eric

+1-702-241-8000

ep90210@hotmail.com

Brad is a good referance,

my fee=free table time when im there on hoilday;) just kidding, i'm glad to help
 
Think I'm coming there on thurs..

I'd go with 1 table, blue or green felt, decent lighting, enough room so you don't hit any walls. Some music, maybe a list people can put there name on and play, since it's only 1 table. Play 8 ball is probably best. Decent house cues, put acceptable felt on. Sure I'm missing sth.

You are. There MUST be a change of rules up there - the two shot, don't have to hit a cushion borefest they play in CM is another death by a thousand cuts pool. It's wrong on the miniature snooker tables and it's even more wrong on a 9 footer.

The ting tong thai rules are even worse.
 
i'm real good at designing pool rooms, I have done lots of them. there are a few tricks I know that make them "feel" better too.

Ask Brad how good the one table room at my house in Vegas felt. I can do commercial room, home rooms, and set up's like the new TAR studio. I'm setting up a 2 table room this next week.

Please let me know if I can help.

Eric

+1-702-241-8000

ep90210@hotmail.com

Brad is a good referance,

my fee=free table time when im there on hoilday;) just kidding, i'm glad to help

Great to see people offering their time and expertise to fellow pool community members for free. Kudos, sir. Kidding or not, I highly recommend CM - far more chilled than the other tourist areas of thailand.
 
I am planning to open a new pool room in chiangmai, Thailand. There was a nice place here before but closed down.
My place will have just one table,so this will be only place having a 9ft table in this city.

I am looking for decorating ideas and would like to see some pics of people having small rooms.

I also would be happy for any suggestions like name of the place, colors for walls etc etc

I would also accept gifts for decoratiing the room, like signs, soveineirs:thumbup::thumbup:

I take it you're fully aware of the difficulties associated with running businesses in thailand? I know of very, very few farang who make money there, but a one table bar may make money if it's handled correctly. I spent a lot of time considering it myself, but chickened out. There's a good expat community there with plenty of excellent players, so the 9 footer might make a nice change for them. Do they have any money though?

Good luck.
 
I am an expat living in Chiang Mai, I know Monto and used to regularly play at the CueBar here before it closed. I will be happy to see the new place with the 9 foot table and Monto knows I will be there.

That being said, it will be very challenging to open a new and successful business in Chiang Mai. With only one table, pool cannot be the main source of revenue, which leaves beer and food.

There are many, probably 40-50, bars in Chiang Mai which have pool tables now who will be the competition. Granted these tables are mostly snooker style and vary in condition from mediocre to terrible, but they are free to play on and the majority of the players are not serious and really don't care.

Almost all of the decent , serious players are Brits or Aussies who come from a snooker background, have snooker cues and if they want a serious game, go play snooker for $2.50 an hour on Riley 12 foot tables. There a few regular American style players like me, but not many.

I really don't want to throw a wet blanket on this new business and sincerely hope it will be very successful.

As a business consultant, if you haven't done so, I suggest answering following first questions, written down on paper in detail.

1. What are projected investment and operating costs?
2. How much profit do you want to make?
3. How much revenue and how many customers will be required to meet this profit goal?
4. Who are your target customers?
5. What do they want?
6. Why will they come to your business?

There are many other considerations, like competitors, location, etc. but these are a start.

Good luck and I wish you great success. Let me know if there is anything I can do to help.
 
Thanks so much everyone, I am going to live upstairs in the same place and there is place only for one table.
I am really not hoping to make very big money. I am a player myself and like to play on a 9 ft table and there is none in chiangmai. My aim is to make it really nice, I am still considering to make it a sports bar concept but I think it's not that big.

If someone can show me some pics of small rooms, it will be great for reference. If all goes well it should open next month. I already have gc3 copy table but I am trying to get an original Brunswick metro.
Thanks, Brad,Eric,Thaiger,GAdawg and all other who replied so far.


Will love to see some pics:)
 
wow this is great news Monto! Congrats and best of luck to you on this venture. I guess I'll have to plan a trip out there once you open!
 
You're asking for theme, layout and decoration advice - this is difficult to give unless you tell us where it is and, crucially, who your market will be. Are you aiming at expats or tourists? Will you allow locals? Are you planning on charging for your table? What about beer prices? Ladies? - and all that entails?

I would keep the bar light, bright and airy, with good ventilation. Get a good light over the table and make it the centrepiece. A sports bar theme might work - get PL football - I don't remember too many chilled places to watch it in CM. Personal preference because of my bad back, but I always made a beeline to places that had comfy sofas.

Food - trad thai fare presumably, but i'd also go with full english breakfasts. I've been all over the world but have never had a decent full english outside the Uk. I simply don't understand why. Get the right ingredients and make sure it's cooked properly and you're onto a winner. Do not serve it with salad and make sure your cook can fry an egg properly - sack them if they can't.

In terms of pool, I'd make sure the cues were decent and there was always chalk. I lost count of the number of great chalk hunts I've had, and it's easy to forget when you've a million other things to do. I would take 100% charge of the table and playing conditions - there's no way I'd delegate any of that to a thai.

Have a winner stays on format. Encourage regulars by selling basic cues and allowing them to store them at the bar. Sell spirits by the bottle and keep them behind the bar also. Go for the Beer Lao drinkers, not the Chang alkies. Hold regular comps - both 8 ball and 9 ball - charging 100b entries. Be prepared to lose money for a few months until you build regular entrants. Maybe have an opening night comp with a prize of 10,000b, and publicise it widely.

It's a difficult sell, but perhaps not impossible. The important thing to remember here is there are a lot of players in CM, but nowhere decent to play. The tricky bit is to wean them off the snooker style tables, and that comes down to getting them to understand international rules rather than the UK or Thai rules they currently play. If they can't grasp them quickly, you've had it.

Not wanting to tell you suck eggs or anything but you MUST be a strong boss and take no shit from anyone. Staff will take the piss if they can. Keep a beady eye on everything. You also MUST talk to other farang bar owners about tea money and the like. Finally, ring-fence some emergency funds and never dip into it for the business. I take it you're active on Thaivisa? if not, get on it and talk to them about sponsorship. You'll die a slow death if you don't get yourself known.
 
Thanks Suge, Looking forward to see you as well:thumbup:

You're asking for theme, layout and decoration advice - this is difficult to give unless you tell us where it is and, crucially, who your market will be. Are you aiming at expats or tourists? Will you allow locals? Are you planning on charging for your table? What about beer prices? Ladies? - and all that entails?

I would keep the bar light, bright and airy, with good ventilation. Get a good light over the table and make it the centrepiece. A sports bar theme might work - get PL football - I don't remember too many chilled places to watch it in CM. Personal preference because of my bad back, but I always made a beeline to places that had comfy sofas.

Food - trad thai fare presumably, but i'd also go with full english breakfasts. I've been all over the world but have never had a decent full english outside the Uk. I simply don't understand why. Get the right ingredients and make sure it's cooked properly and you're onto a winner. Do not serve it with salad and make sure your cook can fry an egg properly - sack them if they can't.

In terms of pool, I'd make sure the cues were decent and there was always chalk. I lost count of the number of great chalk hunts I've had, and it's easy to forget when you've a million other things to do. I would take 100% charge of the table and playing conditions - there's no way I'd delegate any of that to a thai.

Have a winner stays on format. Encourage regulars by selling basic cues and allowing them to store them at the bar. Sell spirits by the bottle and keep them behind the bar also. Go for the Beer Lao drinkers, not the Chang alkies. Hold regular comps - both 8 ball and 9 ball - charging 100b entries. Be prepared to lose money for a few months until you build regular entrants. Maybe have an opening night comp with a prize of 10,000b, and publicise it widely.

It's a difficult sell, but perhaps not impossible. The important thing to remember here is there are a lot of players in CM, but nowhere decent to play. The tricky bit is to wean them off the snooker style tables, and that comes down to getting them to understand international rules rather than the UK or Thai rules they currently play. If they can't grasp them quickly, you've had it.

Not wanting to tell you suck eggs or anything but you MUST be a strong boss and take no shit from anyone. Staff will take the piss if they can. Keep a beady eye on everything. You also MUST talk to other farang bar owners about tea money and the like. Finally, ring-fence some emergency funds and never dip into it for the business. I take it you're active on Thaivisa? if not, get on it and talk to them about sponsorship. You'll die a slow death if you don't get yourself known.

Thanks so much for the suggestions, I am not looking for theme or layout, rather decoration ideas. You suggestions for food,table charges, and other details make perfect sense and i will keep everything in mind.
I want to make it in way that people get inspiration of sorts when they see this place to play pool.
There was a pool room here before and i know all the regular players who played there and they dont play thai rules.
Of course i will charge to play and it will be 120 to 140 baht an hour or 20 baht a game.I am not trying to make a fortune out of this place. I am going to live upstairs, my rent is not very high. My aim is to get the regulars in and slowly get some more people to get regulars.


Can someone post some pics of small rooms:thumbup:
 
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