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How Do the Pros Aim
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I'm still VERY confused about this whole "monkey" analogy that Mr. JoeyA keeps referencing. I asked him to explain it on another thread but last time I checked he ignored me.
I like the idea of cute analogies though, so here's one of my own:
Arguments like the ones going on in this thread remind me of three fat kids fighting over the prom queen. No matter who wins, none of them score.
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I like the idea of cute analogies though, so here's one of my own:
Arguments like the ones going on in this thread remind me of three fat kids fighting over the prom queen. No matter who wins, none of them score.
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Stan, if Landon is delaying pool for school, GREAT! But, if he is delaying it for girls as someone else mentioned, then either teach him to pick the right girl, or get the kid neutered!
This has to be one of the most disturbing posts I've ever read. Both school AND girls are far more important than pool.
Wow...
And I remember seeing a guy named Lou in a 14.1 qualifier who's method did not hold up under pressure. That is another great thing about CTE Lou, my game stays the same. When the pressure is on, I can go back to basic CTE and manually go through the steps, and the shots still go in. But, you go ahead and stick with your method that failed you.
lol, as I wrote at the time (both before and after the event) I expected to go two and out (I actually went 1-2) because my wife and I had been traveling non-stop (Europe, NYC, Chicago) the month right before the tournament. No pool for moi, but I decided to go for S&G.
Someday you may have the opportunity to be on a TV table. Me, twice lately -- one good performance at the US 1Pocket Open in Vegas and one in Chicago for the World 14.1 Qualifier -- which BTW I won two years earlier -- not so good.
I look forward to seeing how you hold up if anyone ever decides you're worth putting on camera ;-)
Lou Figueroa
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You have no idea how true your words are about this being our loss. Well, maybe you do.
People like Lou Figueroa, Patrick Johnson and a few of the other naysayers chase good and decent posters away from this forum all of the time, with their snide remarks and "funny" quips.
Most assailed posters simply don't want to fade the constant barrage of mean-spirited comments from these few. Many simply leave the forum and never come back. Most of the professional players think the forum is a joke and in many ways, I can't blame them for feeling that they are not welcome. I wish it weren't so but it is what it is.
The fact that Stan Shuffett posts so little on this forum is a direct reflection of the constant attacks and mean-spirited comments perpertrated by a few.
You can thank the band of naysayers for chasing yet another good poster away from this forum.
Lou, I'm not knocking your play. I'm using it as an example of what you posted- playing under pressure. Your post made it sound like systems won't hold up under pressure, but whatever you use will. I just pointed out that your way didn't hold up for you either.
And, I have been on film. Before I was using CTE. I didn't hold up to well either then. I didn't have anything to fall back on. Much like you. Now, I do.
No, that's not what I was saying, per se. What I was trying to say was that whatever you use it needs to be natural and simple or it will break down. Some systems, aiming or PSR, are too complex and unnatural to hold up.
Pressure had nothing to do with how I played in Chicago or how things did or did not hold up. Lack of practice and competitive play did. I spent three years of my life, virtually every week, in front of TV cameras, lights and microphones. I have played guys like Efren, Nevel, Joyner, Buddy, Alex, Rafael, and on and on. So for me it wasn't a pressure thing, or not having something to fall back on. I was just out of stroke.
Lou Figueroa
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You REALLY believe this? Do you still think that all the "pros" have this secret aiming knowledge that they just will not share with us and only a highly trained pool instructor/research scientist could possibly figure out how the pros aim? They aim by FEEL for goodness sake. How they arrive at that point may be different (ghost ball, overlap, double-the-distance, CTE possibly if you are Stevie Moore, etc). Even then it's only in the beginning of their pool playing lives. After a while, they don't even think about aiming. At least no more than this - "there's the pocket, there's where I need to hit the ball to put it in that there pocket." That's it.
I still can't get past the stone cold fact that snooker players do not worry about aiming. We can debate which game is better and which game requires which skills, BUT you cannot debate that potting balls in snooker requires much more precision than in pool. So why aren't they as concerned with aiming I ask? Maybe they cracked the aiming code and they're just are unwilling to share their knowledge. I don't think so
At this point, I'm an addict. I just can't stay away from these aiming threads but I'm shaking my head the whole time and even laughing from time to time.
So, just because snooker players don't talk on forums much about aiming, that's supposed to mean that they don't worry about aiming at all. hmmmm......
Well - yes. Okay maybe they worry about it a little bit, similiar to how they worry about having their shoes tied before they step to the table.
If you even try to read about aiming in snooker the topic will quickly change to cueing action. They focus much more on delivering your cue in a straight line. I usually see that ghost ball technique is recommended or just working on 1/2 ball, 1/4 ball, 3/4 ball hits, etc. That's pretty much it.
Why would you think they don't talk much about aiming?
OB curving (or the lack of) is covered and demonstrated here:
Check it out,
Dave
Dr Dave, I was replying to this.
Good Lord! How could he have been so crude as to use the phrase "too sensitive"? Where will it all end?
Thaiger, you must keep in mind that there are two sets of posting rules on AzB - one for talking to us mere mortals and another for talking to "celebrity posters". The main difference is that you're not allowed to address a "celebrity poster" without first locking your lips firmly to his ass.
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Sorry about that. I've included all of the previous quotes above. So I guess my message should have been directly to LaMas or anybody else who thinks the OB can curve a significant or useful amount (see OB swerve).
Regards,
Dave