Tommy I was just fixing to call you to see what you might know....I don't ever remember seeing this cat any of the many times at the rack or breakers......do you know him tommy? I thought he was working in the shop....he acted like he did
CA$H Cues - Tommy's Contact Info
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The Shop was NOT flooded only Tommys House, The Water comes over the Wall(hope spelling right) and flooded his House, this was ca. 20-25 May 2010. as my Birthday Cue was in the Case.
I had give him a Cash Cue Jacket as Gift and want see a Pic with him,he never send to me, only say it fits perfect.
He owe Berny Money too.
Ralf
I had give him a Cash Cue Jacket as Gift and want see a Pic with him,he never send to me, only say it fits perfect.
He owe Berny Money too.
Ralf
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I forget, it was made in Thailand extra for him,Rusty Melton and Eric(Fatboy)
http://forums2.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=155381
Ralf
This whole situation seems so strange. It seems like Hangemhigh was really on the up and up and for him to just disappear and have such a bad rap at business in the end almost doesnt make sense.
Im really at a loss.
Those were really nice jackets by the way.
R,
Greg
Im really at a loss.
Those were really nice jackets by the way.
R,
Greg
hangemhigh
It's more than sad to see such a good reputation going down the drain.
I had flawless deals with hangemhigh on an elephant Engles and a Davis blank ca$h cue with ferruleless shafts - they're playing awesome!
As far as I know he was AND IS also active on fleabay under "ozrotucker" (last activity yesterday?).
Maybe this information could help making contact again?
Best of luck to all fellows involved.
Dirk
It's more than sad to see such a good reputation going down the drain.
I had flawless deals with hangemhigh on an elephant Engles and a Davis blank ca$h cue with ferruleless shafts - they're playing awesome!
As far as I know he was AND IS also active on fleabay under "ozrotucker" (last activity yesterday?).
Maybe this information could help making contact again?
Best of luck to all fellows involved.
Dirk
Well, this just sucks. Hopefully he'll step up and make things right for you guys in very quick time. Best of luck to all involved.
Hopefully he'll step up and make things right for you guys in very quick time. Best of luck to all involved.
It kind of makes sense that he is Sam Engles. When he came on and was selling boxes of locking mechanisms and case parts the first thing I thought was "why would anyone have 100's of locks for cases laying around". It fits if he used to make them.
Don't know that it matters much, but it was conveyed to me that Bill McD was the one who actually bought up that stock of diary locks years ago....
This is what makes it all curious for me. Bill McDaniel made Kelli cases. Then he quit doing that and Sam Engles started in the same town. Then Bill sells out his cue making shop and Tommy Stanfill shows up connected to them through Cash cues and always has Engels cases for sale and then finds a box of diary locks to sell......
Btw just to throw a little damn gas on the fire but can someone tell me how the diary locks were supposed to be installed using the hardware provided? The rivets were too short to go through the double layer of tubing and one would have had to remove the liner to be able to put a rivet in anyway. Did anyone successfully install one of these locks?
BTW Roy Malott say that if Tommy is Sam then add the $850 he is owed for cases he never got to the amount that everyone else is out.
I'd sure like to know the real story here. From a voyeur's point of view. Also for the overseas people. YOU can file charges with your local police departments and they SHOULD know how to inform the local police department in Tommy/Sam's jurisdiction. That's what I was told anyway.
You can always just call the police there and see what they tell you.
And if you communicated through email (or telephone) then it's international wire fraud and the FBI has a place for that where you can also file charges if it comes to that. Get with Lisa, ridewiththewind, on here as she knows the links I believe.
Good people do bad things. Worse yet, bad people try to be good for a while but always seem to fall back in to their core character. It's pretty basic psychology. Look at our prison system & all the "reformed" convicts that revert back to crime when the opportunity presents itself. I'm not saying Tommy, or whoever he is, is a bad guy or trouble. I'm just saying that it shouldn't be a surprise if he is because it's nothing uncommon. It's just baffling when you are on the receiving end.
IMO, the pictures don't lie. The pictures combined with the shipping address & phone numbers, ties to Engles cases & parts, etc., all point to one logical conclusion. I'm a pretty logical thinker & try looking at things from every angle to get a solid grasp of the situation before forming an opinion, and I cannot figure out any other plausible explanation.
A short story that gave me my first solid hint of this guy's character. New2youq's sold one of my cues. A year or so later, Tommy contacts Jamie telling him the cue is warped & wants Jamie to make good on it or else he'd post video of the warped cue on youtube. Yeah, seriously had video & tried blackmailing New2youq's. Jamie, of course, told him to go f*ck himself. So Tommy contacts me and is polite & smooth talking, not knowing that I had just hung up the phone with Jamie. Being that I already knew the guy was a piece of shit, and it was my cue, I told him to send back immediately & i'd build a new one. I did, and he quickly sold it for profit, as expected. So now I have the warped cue & an HONEST person has the new cue & loves it, no doubt feeling good about the flawless transaction they had with Tommy & confused about why he's doing all this now. In conversations with Tommy, I found out that he acquired the cue from the person who first bought it from Jamie. That person sold it to somebody overseas & had it shipped to Ca$h cues so they could ship it overseas. Then a deal was struck that Ca$h would keep the cue & send the overseas guy a Ca$h cue. Somehow the cue warped (which is bizarre because it was cored) and Tommy was stuck. So he reverted to criminal tactics to recover his loss. I let him off easy, knowing it would only be a matter of time before he screwed up huge. I kept my mouth shut about it until now, and am a bit humored at the opportunity to share the story. It's first hand & absolute true. So i'm not surprised a bit by Tommy's actions. Hopefully he gets what he justly deserves, whatever it may be.
And BTW, I didn't care about the warped cue being on youtube. Given the confusing history of the cue, it's hard to say why it was warped & was no longer my problem. But the fact that he considered & set in motion a plan to blackmail a business into giving him money says a lot about who he is at the core. It's also no surprise that he preached ethics & morals all the time. He was preaching what he likely wanted to be & struggled with in his own soul, and who he wanted people to perceive him as. Sorry for the long post. Just wanted to share that tid-bit & get it off my chest. I don't hate the guy or want bad for him. I think like most lifestyle criminals, it's a sickness just like any other illness & some folks recover where some do not. Would be nice to see him make right with himself & everybody else, but given that he has numerous alias', chances are good he'll just assume another identity & try again.
IMO, the pictures don't lie. The pictures combined with the shipping address & phone numbers, ties to Engles cases & parts, etc., all point to one logical conclusion. I'm a pretty logical thinker & try looking at things from every angle to get a solid grasp of the situation before forming an opinion, and I cannot figure out any other plausible explanation.
A short story that gave me my first solid hint of this guy's character. New2youq's sold one of my cues. A year or so later, Tommy contacts Jamie telling him the cue is warped & wants Jamie to make good on it or else he'd post video of the warped cue on youtube. Yeah, seriously had video & tried blackmailing New2youq's. Jamie, of course, told him to go f*ck himself. So Tommy contacts me and is polite & smooth talking, not knowing that I had just hung up the phone with Jamie. Being that I already knew the guy was a piece of shit, and it was my cue, I told him to send back immediately & i'd build a new one. I did, and he quickly sold it for profit, as expected. So now I have the warped cue & an HONEST person has the new cue & loves it, no doubt feeling good about the flawless transaction they had with Tommy & confused about why he's doing all this now. In conversations with Tommy, I found out that he acquired the cue from the person who first bought it from Jamie. That person sold it to somebody overseas & had it shipped to Ca$h cues so they could ship it overseas. Then a deal was struck that Ca$h would keep the cue & send the overseas guy a Ca$h cue. Somehow the cue warped (which is bizarre because it was cored) and Tommy was stuck. So he reverted to criminal tactics to recover his loss. I let him off easy, knowing it would only be a matter of time before he screwed up huge. I kept my mouth shut about it until now, and am a bit humored at the opportunity to share the story. It's first hand & absolute true. So i'm not surprised a bit by Tommy's actions. Hopefully he gets what he justly deserves, whatever it may be.
And BTW, I didn't care about the warped cue being on youtube. Given the confusing history of the cue, it's hard to say why it was warped & was no longer my problem. But the fact that he considered & set in motion a plan to blackmail a business into giving him money says a lot about who he is at the core. It's also no surprise that he preached ethics & morals all the time. He was preaching what he likely wanted to be & struggled with in his own soul, and who he wanted people to perceive him as. Sorry for the long post. Just wanted to share that tid-bit & get it off my chest. I don't hate the guy or want bad for him. I think like most lifestyle criminals, it's a sickness just like any other illness & some folks recover where some do not. Would be nice to see him make right with himself & everybody else, but given that he has numerous alias', chances are good he'll just assume another identity & try again.
Eric, the warped Cue was for Berny, as I know this Story long time ago too.Hope you are well???
Ralf
Ralf
I figured it was Bernie, or possibly you. But I never knew for sure. I'm doing much better, thanks. How are things in the Germanic region?
Just spoke with one of the owners of "WORLD CLASS CUES" who also produced the "CASH CUE" line in the shop formerly owned by BILL McDANIEL.
He will become a site member and shed light on this murky situation.
LOL, when i met "Sam" Engles he claimed his name was "Eddie", but, he also answered to "Sam" and that he was a truck driver.
Although scruffier the dude pictured with the child called himself "Eddie/Sam".
Hope everyone is made whole.
Edit to add: good chance his AZ username was "CHEVY 454" many moons ago
He will become a site member and shed light on this murky situation.
LOL, when i met "Sam" Engles he claimed his name was "Eddie", but, he also answered to "Sam" and that he was a truck driver.
Although scruffier the dude pictured with the child called himself "Eddie/Sam".
Hope everyone is made whole.
Edit to add: good chance his AZ username was "CHEVY 454" many moons ago
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So, who is that in the pic on Chady's site? That's not Sam.
From what I understand, there are two "Tommy''s". Tommy Stanfill was Hangemhigh.
Tommy Hindman is one of the two proprietors of Cash Cues. Although Tony Zinzola said the package he recieved from Hangemhigh had a return address of Hindman, so maybe he was living with him or something.
Very confusing situation