My King Cobra customized Table

Glen,

What about the ledge.

Any way to adjust that out?

Thanks

I did something about the slate shelf as well. When I replaced the sub-rails I extended them out to make the nose of the cushions 2 1/8"th from the formica finish on the rails instead of the normal 2", which in turn tightened up the playing surface by a 1/4", which in turn extended the pocket shelf by 1/8" as well. Now a ball frozen deep in the pocket ends up being 50% inside of the pocket if you look at it down the long rails.
 
I did something about the slate shelf as well. When I replaced the sub-rails I extended them out to make the nose of the cushions 2 1/8"th from the formica finish on the rails instead of the normal 2", which in turn tightened up the playing surface by a 1/4", which in turn extended the pocket shelf by 1/8" as well. Now a ball frozen deep in the pocket ends up being 50% inside of the pocket if you look at it down the long rails.

Glen,

Thanks but I'm asking about the the pocket casting being higher the the top of the rail. Look at my photo below.

Anything csan be done about this?
 
Glen, you are indeed a pool table wizard. You performed magic on this table - just beautiful workmanship. I enjoy reading your threads especially the photos. I've recently had my Global bar box worked on by Donny of SD Billiards. He installed new Ridgeback rails and Simonis 860HR cloth. He does beautiful work too. Thanks to Tommy T for posting the pics and writing this thread. You have a knockout table.
 
Glen,

Thanks but I'm asking about the the pocket casting being higher the the top of the rail. Look at my photo below.

Anything csan be done about this?

There's a few reasons why your castings can sit so high above the finish of the rails, (1) being that the casting is bent at the L where it bolts to the end of the rails, (2) it's been tightened up so hard in the past that it's actually crushed the wood on the bottom side of the rail. In either case, the bent casting can be straightened, and shims can be installed between the bottom of the rail between the casting mount and the rail bottom which will in turn lower down the top of the casting to a more level fit. But, you can't lower it down to much or the outside edge of the pocket casting will end up lower than the Formica finish of the rails leaving you a sharp jagged overhanging edge of the Formica. The side pocket castings can't be lowered to much either without removing the thickness of the ear of the sub-rail which extends underneath the side pocket casting. Hope this helps you with some kind of understanding as to what to do with your pocket castings.

Glen
 
There's a few reasons why your castings can sit so high above the finish of the rails, (1) being that the casting is bent at the L where it bolts to the end of the rails, (2) it's been tightened up so hard in the past that it's actually crushed the wood on the bottom side of the rail. In either case, the bent casting can be straightened, and shims can be installed between the bottom of the rail between the casting mount and the rail bottom which will in turn lower down the top of the casting to a more level fit. But, you can't lower it down to much or the outside edge of the pocket casting will end up lower than the Formica finish of the rails leaving you a sharp jagged overhanging edge of the Formica. The side pocket castings can't be lowered to much either without removing the thickness of the ear of the sub-rail which extends underneath the side pocket casting. Hope this helps you with some kind of understanding as to what to do with your pocket castings.

Glen

Glen,
I just now noticed your reply. Thank you.

When GC-1 and GC-2 were made new were they perfectly flush?

Thanks and regards,
MArk
 
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Glen,
I just now noticed your reply. Thank you.

When GC-1 and GC-2 were made new were they perfectly flush?

Thanks and regards,
MArk

No, the Gold Crown pocket castings didn't start trying to get flush with the rails until the GC4's came out. But, there is some adjustment room on the 1-3's by shiming between the bottom side of the casting where it mounts flush with the bottom of the rail, but trust me, there isn't much room to play with in most cases, because as you lower down the front side of the casting, you also lower down the back side, which then becomes lower than the outside edge of the rail trim moulding, causing a nasty lip if you're not to careful as to how much you shim the castings.

Glen
 
I had the pleasure of meeting Glen today. He is here in Lynchburg VA for a few days work on some Diamond tables at the Club House Billiards and Bar. He is a very nice guy and really has done a lot for the billiard industry. Great guy!
 
I did something about the slate shelf as well. When I replaced the sub-rails I extended them out to make the nose of the cushions 2 1/8"th from the formica finish on the rails instead of the normal 2", which in turn tightened up the playing surface by a 1/4", which in turn extended the pocket shelf by 1/8" as well. Now a ball frozen deep in the pocket ends up being 50% inside of the pocket if you look at it down the long rails.

EASY ON MY TRICKS......don't give everything away buddy:D
I need that diamond slate......and your help to put the side rail mounts in the slate.
 
EASY ON MY TRICKS......don't give everything away buddy:D
I need that diamond slate......and your help to put the side rail mounts in the slate.

Well, all I can say is give me a detailed list of ALLLLL your tricks, and I'll make sure I don't give any away;);):D I'm trying to get to your area before I dissapear down to TX again, and I have the drill press to drill any bolt pattern you need in the Diamond slate...just need to get it to you first:D
 
I had the pleasure of meeting Glen today. He is here in Lynchburg VA for a few days work on some Diamond tables at the Club House Billiards and Bar. He is a very nice guy and really has done a lot for the billiard industry. Great guy!

Nice meeting you as well, I hope we can spend a little time together so I can go over some cloth install tricks with you, I'd really like that, makes my job a lot more enjoyable when I get the chance to work with other table mechanics.

Glen
 
It is a great feeling to know you had the "best " set your table up. I have been working hard to wear my cloth out just to get Glen back here one more time!

I"m going to try and make it out to your place sometime within the next 4-6 months buddy, I'll give you and update as I get closer, but besides changing out your cloth, we need to update your rails to the same as the new Diamond's, you'll love the change in the way the table plays.:D

Glen
 
I"m going to try and make it out to your place sometime within the next 4-6 months buddy, I'll give you and update as I get closer, but besides changing out your cloth, we need to update your rails to the same as the new Diamond's, you'll love the change in the way the table plays.:D

Glen

Glen you are welcome at this place any time. I have boasted many times about having the best playing table in the state and if the rail work makes it better then I am all for it:thumbup:.
 
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