How long can you hide your pool game speed?

Thanks!

Lock N Load said:
I thank you very much for your input. I hope you had a good Thanksgiving!
Be good! Always a pleasure to hear from you.
Regards,
Lock N Load.
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Thanks! I hope you and yours had a great Thanksgiving too. The seventies and eighties were a blast playing pool. Two-bit hustlers everywhere and especially in the seventies most of the play with strangers was even, no spot. If you happened to be a four-bit hustler . . . . :thumbup:

Hu
 
ShootingArts said:
The old gambler's game was to hide your speed while rating the other player's accurately in a hurry. The goal wasn't to impress anyone, it was to bring home the cash. I think I was accurate rating someone else's game within 5-15 minutes almost every time, didn't matter if they were on the stall or not. On the other hand I concealed my speed from many people for months or longer.

No reason at all to get cold while on the stall. I was still shooting as carefully as ever and exercising as much or more control over object balls and the cue ball as when I was pocketing balls, my objectives were just a wee bit different! :thumbup:

The ethics of stalling can be debated but any time I clipped somebody for real money by stalling they had been stalling too. They usually got clipped without me going totally off the stall. Since "I got a little lucky" to beat them that time they were good for a few more shavings around the edges! :D There is a lot of poker in gambling at pool. For a gambler it isn't a sport, it is part game, part business. There is a difference between a gambler who plays pool and a pool player who gambles. I have been both at times. Best thing to remember is that true Gamblers that make a real income from it rarely really gamble. They have the best of it or they don't stay in a game long.

Hu
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In your posts you come off as a pro caliber player that always played on the stall. I find it hard to believe that you could gauge everyone's speed in 5 - 15 minutes; however, virtually nobody could gauge your speed for months.
 
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we all have certain skills

JDB said:
You must be great!!! You can gauge someone's speed in 5 - 15 minutes whether they are stalling or not; however, you can conceal your own speed from quite a few people.
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We all have certain skills. You proclaim yourself to be an even rarer bird, an idiot savant. You may be right, you may be half right, I have no way of knowing just like you have no way of knowing what I did in the seventies and eighties unless you had your nose glued to my ass and I failed to notice that for over a decade.

Hu
 
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Lock N Load said:
You are trying to be low keyed with your game, and you want to try to keep it that way thinking you will get more action! Thanks for your input.
Regards,
Lock N Load.
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Hustling to some people is a skill hard to master, to others is what gave pool bad reputation. With today's technology it is hard to hide yourself for long (if you are in big money game).
 
Maybe it's paranoia, but there's one regular at my room who's been on permanent "undercover duty" for the whole time I've been going there. And he has a very good win percentage when playing partners. I guess that helps to hide speed.
 
Too competitive!

Lock N Load said:
You are trying to be low keyed with your game, and you want to try to keep it that way thinking you will get more action! Thanks for your input.
Regards,
Lock N Load.
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Find it difficult to not show my true speed. I'm way too competitive. I've got to bring my best effort every time I pick up a cue.

In a way that has been a curse. I know guys who are experts at hiding their true abilities and they get a lot more action than I get.

But I've never played the game just to hustle chumps out of their money. I've always played for the competition and the challenge!!

Giving your all at whatever you do is not a bad thing, it's a good thing.
 
shootingarts said:
we all have certain skills. You proclaim yourself to be an even rarer bird, an idiot savant. You may be right, you may be half right, i have no way of knowing just like you have no way of knowing what i did in the seventies and eighties unless you had your nose glued to my ass and i failed to notice that for over a decade.

Hu
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lmao!!!!!!!!!
 
naji said:
Hustling to some people is a skill hard to master, to others is what gave pool bad reputation. With today's technology it is hard to hide yourself for long (if you are in big money game).
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Somewhat, but I doubt anyone is talking about real money here!
 
big money or big money venues

Food for thought: There are hundreds of places to play pool and gamble in New Orleans and within very easy driving distance of New Orleans. Of all those places there are less than a dozen that are venues where you will quickly become known if you gamble fairly big and beat the wrong people.

The other places if you clip somebody for a few hundreds, scores over a thousand are rarer than hen's teeth still I believe, you might be remembered in that place for a few months but word won't spread and you can slide right back in that place and score again usually. Four or five trips in a place gambling small and hanging out is all it takes to become known as a regular. Once you are considered a regular it isn't a big deal if you take somebody for a few dollars.

Edit: Fat fingered the enter key before I was ready to post. If you want to play for big money you are screaming look at me and of course you get noticed. If you go to the hottest gambling halls around and go gunning for the big dogs, well that gets you noticed too. If you want to make two or three times typical wages on a pool table, I suspect that is still easy to do. I can't drink even a swallow or two of beer these days and all this gray in my hair leaves folks suspecting I'm no pilgrim. If it wasn't for these minor details I think I could still sneak out a solid living on bar tables, in bars.

Hu
 
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Hey CheeseRoller, I bet you do not get a lot of action!

cheeseroller said:
Find it difficult to not show my true speed. I'm way too competitive. I've got to bring my best effort every time I pick up a cue.

In a way that has been a curse. I know guys who are experts at hiding their true abilities and they get a lot more action than I get.

But I've never played the game just to hustle chumps out of their money. I've always played for the competition and the challenge!!

Giving your all at whatever you do is not a bad thing, it's a good thing.
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Don't mention if you play real good. People remember the good players real good. Thanks for your input.
Regards,
Lock N Load.
 
How much of a spot do you need?

doublej487 said:
well i think there 3 people n the forum that may have an idea of how i play ,...... so ill take a big spot
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If you come to New Orleans, Louisiana you can get a good spot. Just say how much you need! Thanks for your input. You may get the Orange crush!!!
Regards,
Lock n Load.
 
Mr. JB, I bet you play real well!

JB Cases said:
Depends on how good you are at it. I have known a few players that wouldn't step foot into an "action" poolroom if you paid them. They made their living hustling the bars and strip clubs. These guys were usually known to the better players around but the bangers never had a chance to quit against them.

I can't hide my speed at all. Not much there to begin with but the few times in life I have tried to lay down I couldn't get up when I was supposed to.
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Everyone knows who you are anyway. So that is probably why you do not lay down. You are the Man! Thanks for your input.
Regards,
Lock N Load.
 
ShootingArts said:
We all have certain skills. You proclaim yourself to be an even rarer bird, an idiot savant. You may be right, you may be half right, I have no way of knowing just like you have no way of knowing what I did in the seventies and eighties unless you had your nose glued to my ass and I failed to notice that for over a decade.

Hu
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That is too funny, thanks for the laugh.
 
Lock N Load said:
You are trying to be low keyed with your game, and you want to try to keep it that way thinking you will get more action! Thanks for your input.
Regards,
Lock N Load.
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All I know is that you can hide it a lot longer if the game is 1pocket.

Lou Figueroa
 
I thought everybody knew what getting more action meant!!

naji said:
The original post says "get more action!" what is meant by action?
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Pool action, meaning get more people to play you pool... If you play to good people won't want to play you. Unless you give up a big spot.
Regards,
Lock N Load.
 
Lock N Load said:
Pool action, meaning get more people to play you pool... If you play to good people won't want to play you. Unless you give up a big spot.
Regards,
Lock N Load.
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Sure i know, but not for love making it is for some $$$, "ironman"
said, i quote "I doubt anyone is talking about real money here!" i questioned that!!
 
Years ago there wasn't as much safety play in 8 ball and 9 ball. You played two way shots and tried to run out. If there was a funny bank shot, you fired at it and put the cue ball at the other end of the table. Hard to stall when you're firing balls in. Obvious misses and rearranging the table could only last so long playing against an experienced player.

Today, you duck a lot more and nobody says a word. If you shoot the tough shot is when they say something. :) You can lay down easily by safing your opponent continuously. They assume you don't have the fire power or the cajones to run out. Either way you get the cheddar and they keep playing. Waiting for your non playing ass to not get so lucky!

Best,
Mike
 
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