9ball break shot question
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Right!.kinda snap stroke, you'll get the feel for it as you do it.......
Imagine your cue ball jumping up and squatting and that is what it will do, use a med to hard stroke, should take about 10 minutes to get the hang of it, I've watched and played many bar table champions and this is how it's done.
You have to concentrate on the cue ball doing what you want it to do, it's like the last thing you LQQK at when shooting a shot for shape, and that is where your cue ball goes everytime, if you look at a scratch you scratch, because that is where you looked at last before you shoot your shot, if you look at parking your cue ball in a window , that is where the cue ball rolls, .....I don't know what it is, that's just how it goes!..........................
Well I'm going to go ahead and tell you what it is..it's "Mental Imagery"....always see the shot take place before you shoot it, and then your mind takes over and it happens,...that's the Secrete to POOl!!!!!!!.Now you Know.......
hope this helps....
Park it on a Dime Baby!
David.....
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How you gonna get any follow with a below center hit? With all due respect, this has nothing to do with mental tricks and takes alot longer than 10 minutes to master. If you can park the ball that way you aint hittin it too hard, its just drawing back slightly.
Use a touch of follow, slightly above center. The follow will act as a brake, and prevent the cue ball from rebounding back too far. (If the cue ball burrows back into the pack, you used too much follow.)
Use a touch of follow, slightly above center. The follow will act as a brake, and prevent the cue ball from rebounding back too far. (If the cue ball burrows back into the pack, you used too much follow.)
The main thing is to hit the 1ball,dead center,so if i was u i would put the cue ball on the spot,hit the cue ball dead center ,and try to hit the 1ball dead center also,when u do this rite,u will know,the cue ball will come back a little and stop,no matter how hard u hit them you must make ,center contact with the 1 ball,to do as you say,good luck!
It's not where you aim, but how you stroke. The easiest way for you to get the idea of what I am talking about is to set up the break as follows:
Set the CB at center diamond and about a ball past the first diamond on the long rail.
Bridge on the rail. What I mean by this is to use a closed bridge where your fingertips are set on the cloth, but your palm is on the short rail.
Aim 1/2 tip above center which is going to have you using a slightly elevated cue.
Pop the break and watch it pop and stop. Keep working on the process to find your spot and remember the most important part of that break is hitting the 1 ball square. That break does you no good if you scratch in the side.
Once you get the idea down you can fiddle with it by switching CB position and where you are bridging from.
Set the CB at center diamond and about a ball past the first diamond on the long rail.
Bridge on the rail. What I mean by this is to use a closed bridge where your fingertips are set on the cloth, but your palm is on the short rail.
Aim 1/2 tip above center which is going to have you using a slightly elevated cue.
Pop the break and watch it pop and stop. Keep working on the process to find your spot and remember the most important part of that break is hitting the 1 ball square. That break does you no good if you scratch in the side.
Once you get the idea down you can fiddle with it by switching CB position and where you are bridging from.
thanks to all who replied.
I tried both one tip below center and one tip above center.
1 tip above sounds more logical to kill the rebound but for some reason Whitey will just rebound back from 1ball sped it's way back to the kitchen.
Maybe I am using a phenoic tip from JNJ or I am gripping the butt too tight.
I tried both one tip below center and one tip above center.
1 tip above sounds more logical to kill the rebound but for some reason Whitey will just rebound back from 1ball sped it's way back to the kitchen.
Maybe I am using a phenoic tip from JNJ or I am gripping the butt too tight.
Make sure your hitting dead center on the head ball.If there is a light reflection on the one in the middle aim for that.
For me to get the ball to stop its all about speed.Think this way, high english not to hard low english harder.The key getting the ball to park with low is the cb must bounce,kinda like your trying to jump into the one.You can even get follow this way.I might make a video and show u.
Cant promise a ball will go though.
wow, this is deeper that I thought.
If I am reading this correctly, with high english, with the correct speed whitey should stop. If I use low english, whitey must bounce a little towards the 1 ball.
A video will be most appreciated.
I practiced a bit 2 days ago, the only time i managed to stop the cueball i mishit the CB off center to the left and it kinda spin clockwise real fast, so after breaking, it just spun wildly in one spot on the middle. But i could not repeat this.
I am using a lose grip and shorter bridge on the break and breaking from the side of the table.
If I am reading this correctly, with high english, with the correct speed whitey should stop. If I use low english, whitey must bounce a little towards the 1 ball.
A video will be most appreciated.
I practiced a bit 2 days ago, the only time i managed to stop the cueball i mishit the CB off center to the left and it kinda spin clockwise real fast, so after breaking, it just spun wildly in one spot on the middle. But i could not repeat this.
I am using a lose grip and shorter bridge on the break and breaking from the side of the table.
Blue, when you see spin you know you didnt hit center ball. Looks cool but its not really something you want to repeat.
If you look closely in the first rack you can see a little follow before the cue ball gets knocked away. In the second rack you can see more of a braking effect at 3:25(a little less follow).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5UymRkOfTfs&feature=BFa&list=ULBkQkWB7H-eo&lf=mfu_in_order
Blue,try this please,this does work,put ur qball on the spot,aim dead center on the 1ball,hit the qball dead center,if u keep practiceing this,it will come to you,u dont have to hit the qball high or low,to park it,hit the qball in the center,when u finally do hit the qball dead center and the 1ball dead center,then your qball will park in the middle of the table,but remember it is not easy to hit these balls just rite all the time(dead center),but once u get ur speed down and your hits just rite(center)you will do what u want to do!
Thanks Richie, I will try that with slower speed first, and gradually progress to a faster speed and then finally to the side of the table. Will post the outcome when i find the sweet speed/stroke.
I got myself a new break stick coming this week, I can hardly wait..
I got myself a new break stick coming this week, I can hardly wait..
Thanks Richie, I will try that with slower speed first, and gradually progress to a faster speed and then finally to the side of the table. Will post the outcome when i find the sweet speed/stroke.
I got myself a new break stick coming this week, I can hardly wait..
Ok Blue,good luck,cant wait to hear your results!
The reason you need a tad of follow is because when the cue ball hits the stack square it will bounce backward since the mass of the stack is greater than the cue ball. So to keep the CB from continuing up table and instead to "squat" it, you must have a bit of follow. So when the CB bounces backward off the stack the initial follow applied to the CB now becomes draw and "throws out the anchor". Hitting the shot with draw will only help the CB continue back up table.
Dr. Dave's excellent website has very good high speed video of this:
Break shot hit with follow
The shot in this video was hit with a lot of follow but it illustrates the principle that you need a little bit of spin in this direction to put the brakes on the CB as it bounces backward from the stack.
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Great thread.
I break close to the center, concentrate on hitting the one ball dead center, and then jack up the cue slightly so that I'm hitting down on the cue.
The good news is that I'm getting a great spread on the balls and parking the cue dead center about 90% of the time. The bad news is that I only pocketing balls about 50-60 % of the time.
Since I play higher level players, this is not a great strategy for success. My opponents have a bad habit of running the wide open tables I leave.
Oh well, just need a little more practice on that snap...
I break close to the center, concentrate on hitting the one ball dead center, and then jack up the cue slightly so that I'm hitting down on the cue.
The good news is that I'm getting a great spread on the balls and parking the cue dead center about 90% of the time. The bad news is that I only pocketing balls about 50-60 % of the time.
Since I play higher level players, this is not a great strategy for success. My opponents have a bad habit of running the wide open tables I leave.
Oh well, just need a little more practice on that snap...