Good for your game or Bad for your game.

[cowboyup200560]

Joey one thing I have learned on the boards here is that there is a huge difference between triple shimmed and tightening the pockets the right way. Now don't quote me on this but from what glen(realkingcobra) has said, if the pockets are cut right and the subrails lengthened properly vs just shimmed, the table will play tight but more forgiving as the shims generally used are harder than the cushion face itself

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[JoeyA]

Joey one thing I have learned on the boards here is that there is a huge difference between triple shimmed and tightening the pockets the right way. Now don't quote me on this but from what glen(realkingcobra) has said, if the pockets are cut right and the subrails lengthened properly vs just shimmed, the table will play tight but more forgiving as the shims generally used are harder than the cushion face itself

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Thanks for stepping up Cowboy. I think if this particular super tight table was a little more forgiving I could live with it. For now, I will play on it to sharpen my potting skills, increase my focus, and to refine my stroke efficiency. Other than that, I will try to steer clear of gambling on the table or practicing with an opponent.

Most pool rooms aren't going to spend the dough to lengthen the subrails and make the pocket cuts the way Glen does it. To be candid, I haven't played on any of Glen's refurbished designs but everyone raves about his work so it has to be great.

King Cobra has promised to visit Buffalo Billiards in Metairie, LA and level our two Diamond Pro Tables. :banghead:

 

[Jaden]

I've talked about this with Glen (RKC) before...

I'm talking about one of those triple shimmed, 9 foot Diamond tables. You know, the one that can make you look like a banger at any moment in time; the table that punishes you for every mistake, the table that you can't cheat ANY pocket, the table with the worn cloth and when you hit the object ball it had better be headed for the dead-nuts center of the pocket or if it hits the facing with a little speed, it is guaranteed to be rejected.

I've heard different arguments. From those of you who have played on that type of SUPER-TIGHT table; what is your opinion and thoughts?

Is it good for your game? If so, why and what part of your game? If not, why and what part of your game is it bad for?

Thanks!

I played on the 4" pocketed diamond up at Dave's place in Washington (golden fleece). I thought it played easier than a standard diamond.

It seems that the facings have less room to bounce the ball back and forth so it is less likely for a well struck ball to rattle out with those deep diamond pockets.

Now it's harder than granite to make sure that you're aiming into the pocket, but when you do, it's likely gonna fall...

I played both, well practiced, nineball and played Dan Louie some one hole on that table, and it seemed easier to runout than the standard cut diamonds, at least for me.

Jaden

 

[ShootingArts]

Happy New Year!

Joey,

Happy New Year!!

I read a few pages and skipped over, my opinion is already known. Playing or practicing on a very tough table is good for your game, as long as you spend as much time on "regular" tables.

Position play, shot selection, and shot speed as well as english choices are subtly altered over time playing almost exclusively on a really tough table. It is very easy to bring the same style of play over to the regular tables and reject shots you should be taking.

On the plus side the very tough table takes the slop out of your stroke and your aim. It also improves focus because few shots are automatic. If I had to choose between a nine foot snooker table or nine foot pool table for my home I'd get the snooker table without a second thought, I think it is more fun. Not the best for my pool game though.

Hu

 

[gunzby]

While practicing today I actually tried to play the ghost on the triple shimmed Diamond I practice on every Saturday. I got slammed 9-5 and actually had one loss missing the one ball trying to shoot it down the rail a little too hard.

I do play the ghost a little different though. I don't always take BiH on the first ball. If I have a shot where I think I can make it with good probability to the next ball I won't take BiH. I do this because I want real break and runs more than I want to beat the ghost.

 

[JoeyA]

Joey,

Happy New Year!!

I read a few pages and skipped over, my opinion is already known. Playing or practicing on a very tough table is good for your game, as long as you spend as much time on "regular" tables.

Position play, shot selection, and shot speed as well as english choices are subtly altered over time playing almost exclusively on a really tough table. It is very easy to bring the same style of play over to the regular tables and reject shots you should be taking.

On the plus side the very tough table takes the slop out of your stroke and your aim. It also improves focus because few shots are automatic. If I had to choose between a nine foot snooker table or nine foot pool table for my home I'd get the snooker table without a second thought, I think it is more fun. Not the best for my pool game though.

Hu

Happy New Year to you, Hu! Good responses from all of you.!
Thanks!

 

[JoeyA]

While practicing today I actually tried to play the ghost on the triple shimmed Diamond I practice on every Saturday. I got slammed 9-5 and actually had one loss missing the one ball trying to shoot it down the rail a little too hard.

I do play the ghost a little different though. I don't always take BiH on the first ball. If I have a shot where I think I can make it with good probability to the next ball I won't take BiH. I do this because I want real break and runs more than I want to beat the ghost.

I doubt very seriously if I could even make 9-5 playing the Ghost on this table. You must play VERY well!