Can you please name the usernames of those who you feel are the trolls?
I certainly hope you are not referring to me. I started this thread in a respectful manner. I even started the opening post stating that I did not want to derail or ruin anyone's aiming thread by posting my thoughts in there. So instead, I created a skeptic's thread on the subject. Dedicated to what I wrote in that opening post. How is this troll behavior?
And, lo and behold, it was the aiming systems mafia that showed up, and began attacking several users, being hostile and using caustic language. Perhaps those are the trolls you're referring to?
Hypocritically and ironically, the aiming systems mafia feels they are the victims by going on and on about how we skeptics are after them - yet they are crying and ranting in a SKEPTIC'S thread! Who is trashing who's ideas here? Who is hounding who here?
I'm not naive, I had a feeling from the start this would devolve into a CTE thread. The discussion on the subject I started has pretty much ended. Although, not due to an exhaustion of content, but because I assume no one has a decent rebuttal to some of my thoughts.
Looking back, my main intent was mindset oriented. I'm trying to put forth a certain mindset. People who want to improve, aren't doing themselves a great service being obsessed with aiming systems or thinking of them as THE solution. There's more to the game. Just like my "Custom Cue Mythology" thread that pissed off a lot of people real bad, when you tell people their ideas are superstitions, not based on facts....they then have a bad reaction. Sorry for that. Lying to one's self will only work so long. Eventually the results will tell the truth. The guys working hard and EARNING a great stroke, as well as aiming, mindset and everything else...will always stomp the DVD buying aiming system magic-bullet diet-pill junkies. Being based on reality is always better. Being 100% truthful with one's self is a POWERFUL thing to have. Huge.
Recently, in a league match I played like shit. My focus was terrible. I was doing something bizarre with my stroke that I could not figure out or straighten out even with drills on a practice table. I was agitated. Even my decisions on the table were awful. I was making excuses in my head. All kinds of excuses. Even my cue didn't feel comfortable. Yes, I was even on the verge of blaming my cue! That kind of thinking is weakness. It creeps in little by little IF you let it.
I played awful because of ME. I have no one, nor anything to blame but myself. Once I have the reason, I can then work on the problem. I forced myself to be honest, and throw away every single excuse and be real about why certain things happened.
You know what is sickening? When a player plays great, then they come on this forum and talk about how it was their new cue! Think about that. They played great, yet give CREDIT to the cue??? Likewise, when they play bad, they blame other things but themselves. Unless they own a $5,000 custom, at which point they blame themselves, but credit the cue when everything is working right.
Why do I bring all this up? Because it relates to the overall approach to a person's game and their quest for improvement. What I see a lot of aiming system junkies do is a form of denial, or lying to themselves, or misplaced credit, or misplaced blame. All of which is an OBSTACLE to improvement. Say a player misses because their aim is off. So be it. That does happen, never said it doesn't. But the talk about aim is so wildly disproportionate to the talk about STROKE and other things. Why?
Some of the best teachers of pool, when dealing with newbies, find themselves having to enlighten the newbie that it wasn't their aim that was off, but that they have no stroke. Newbies almost always blame aim. Because they are ignorant about stroke. It gets taken for granted. Or they just automatically think that a few months of play, or joining a bar league has been enough for them to develop a straight stroke. What's making them miss is bad aim. That's what I'm trying to say. It might be some times sure, but really, it's bad stroke almost all the time.
It's difficult to get people to understand how critical it is to have a good stroke, and how difficult it is to achieve a world class stroke. It truly is a special thing, and one of the big factors that separates the masses of amateurs, from the elites who are pros. Sadly, quite a few intermediate and even advanced players on this forum, judging from their comments, down play stroke. Shame on them, they ought to know better.
Excuses are easy. Truth is painful.
And yet not one aiming system advocate has ever said that the stroke and fundamentals are not important.
Not one.
You want us to name the trolls?
How about you try publishing EXACT quotes with links where any of us have downplayed the stroke? Shame on you for putting words in their mouth.
You know what's super funny though? As much as YOU downplay the importance of AIMING there are a lot of products on the market which exist to help people see the supposedly simple ghost ball. This method is SO EASY that there are more devices out there to assist people in 'seeing' it than any other training device.
It's so unimportant that you and other trolls have to spend SO MUCH TIME arguing against it. You MAKE UP, that you INVENT things that people didn't say to bolster your argument AS IF those who like to try out various aiming methods have said that aiming can replace the need for a good stroke. You make it up.
You want painful truth? How about looking at your motivations here? Then you will find some really painful truth.
If you think you will STOMP me then lets play some. Since you are now completely self-aware and free of all excuses you ought to be an amazing player. I will try you some completely even with no weight and we can see where it goes. I am probably the weakest of the players on this forum who advocate aiming systems so you ought to have zero problem stomping me.
Lets get it on and just play some. Lets see if you're right. Since you seem to have some crazy idea that whoever likes an aiming system IS not working on their stroke, not working on their stance, not working on their strategy, not working on their touch, not working on their speed control, then you ought to have no problem.
Unreal. How far you guys will go to PREVENT other people from trying out things on the table is what is shameful and despicable.