Pretty obvious JoeyA isnt using CTE only

dsb8541 said:
Thanks Joey, just wanted to hear your description of what you were doing. I feel like I combine multiple methods and inputs while shooting as well.
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To elaborate a bit more. After a good night's sleep, I awoke this morning full of anticipation and excitement with some additional thoughts about my "aiming" experience yesterday.

In addition to the aiming systems I mentioned, I was also using contact point to contact point on occasion, fractional aiming and yes, no aiming system, just place bridge hand and shoot.

One of the problems that I have is that I seldom if ever play on bar tables and when you have something that bothers you whether it is the first game jitters, fatigue, lack of rhythm, or just feeling out of sorts, it will affect your confidence and I was suffering a bit yesterday, but it was all good. I feel like I am still on a journey seeking my center where I place my best pool. I caught myself using Shane's stick aiming system quit naturally when I was "stuck" a couple of times and I remember now, physically smiling at the irony of using something that I only practiced for a few hours.

Anyway, I have another chance today to embrace my fears of the bantam pool tables. I am also afflicted with the ever-new and changing epiphanies, one of which is possessing me every now and then in sessions of pool where, I am making everything I look at or so it seems. It is almost something that I feel I can command, but not just yet. I will try to put this in words at a later date if I can ever record the chronology of what is taking place. It may just be the flow but I have fun trying to explain what I see in myself so that perhaps others, when they travel their own journey, they will feel that they are not alone and that it is all good and natural.

I want to play better. I need to play better. I am going to play better. I WILL PLAY BETTER.
 
Honestly, I don't get it. What is this fascination with aiming systems on these boards? Out of all the things you can watch for in a pool match, people are focusing in on... aiming systems?!?

When I have the opportunity to watch someone -- a friend, like JoeyA -- play, I watch his form and fundamentals, his cue ball control, his ability to maintain composure when his opponent is firing back, etc. Aiming at the ball is second-nature and not even a consideration -- it's a "done deal" when he gets down on the shot (or it *better* be a done deal!).

Honestly, folks, it's roughly analogous to watching NASCAR, and people are focusing on what color of plastic is in the drivers' helmet faceshield they're using to see the track...

:confused: :scratchhead:
-Sean
 
I don't think you will find too many (if any) very strong "B" or "A" players like Joey A just using CTE # whatever for every shot. Johnnyt
 
JB Cases said:
1. I guess you missed Wilson's note about being negative in these discussions.

2. I don't know what you think this proves but it is certainly not me saying GB doesn't exist. It is me explaining why I think it is not reliable. That does not mean I can't use it if I choose to.

3. Frankly Joey I don't understand why you have be this way. One of my friends told me you are a very nice guy. I guess he sees a different side of you.





www.jbcases.com
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1. Are you kidding ? I might get a warning but I'm sure not calling names or getting nasty. Wait till the bullies and hooligans go at it.
2. Ghost ball and variants from it do exist. I won't post the threads where someone insists it's not any good . Frankly, I think one can get so good at it, he can pretend to twirl his cue and body but on the last stroke and in his visualization he's still looking at those two balls colliding and that the cueball crosses the GB.
3. Your friend is right. I hope I treated him right.:smile:

This is actually a step in the right direction.
Those who insisted CTE and it's variants do not deal with contact points or ghost ball might not like it.
Fractional? Heck, years ago booligans were insisting there are only 3 shots in pool. Heck, Efren even said it.

Happy Sunday and Merry Monday.
 
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Neil said:
CTE doesn't deal with the actual contact point to make the ball. However, that does not mean that you can not also use it or other methods in combination. The good player utilizes all the arrows in his quiver, not just one. When you limit yourself to just one way of doing things, you have by definition "limited" yourself.
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Thanks Neil.
 
sfleinen said:
Honestly, I don't get it. What is this fascination with aiming systems on these boards? Out of all the things you can watch for in a pool match, people are focusing in on... aiming systems?!?

When I have the opportunity to watch someone -- a friend, like JoeyA -- play, I watch his form and fundamentals, his cue ball control, his ability to maintain composure when his opponent is firing back, etc. Aiming at the ball is second-nature and not even a consideration -- it's a "done deal" when he gets down on the shot (or it *better* be a done deal!).

Honestly, folks, it's roughly analogous to watching NASCAR, and people are focusing on what color of plastic is in the drivers' helmet faceshield they're using to see the track...

:confused: :scratchhead:
-Sean
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For me, like the above, its the whole package that matters. It takes alot of guts to play in any thing other than the local tourneys. I give kudos to anyone that ventures outside their comfort zone.

I hope that no matter what the disagreements are, that everyone realizes it is the whole package.

If what he is doing is winning him games, I say keep it up and good luck in future matches.
 
JoeyInCali said:
1. Are you kidding ? I might get a warning but I'm sure not calling names or getting nasty. Wait till the bullies and hooligans go at it.
2. Ghost ball and variants from it do exist. I won't post the threads where someone insists it's not any good . Frankly, I think one can get so good at it, he can pretend to twirl his cue and body but on the last stroke and in his visualization he's still looking at those two balls colliding and that the cueball crosses the GB.
3. Your friend is right. I hope I treated him right.:smile:

This is actually a step in the right direction.
Those who insisted CTE and it's variants do not deal with contact points or ghost ball might not like it.
Fractional? Heck, years ago booligans were insisting there are only 3 shots in pool. Heck, Efren even said it.

Happy Sunday and Merry Monday.
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saying it is no good and saying it does not exist are two very different things. you and I can play some twirl around pool and if you use gb you will go broke.

been there done that
 
sfleinen said:
Honestly, I don't get it. What is this fascination with aiming systems on these boards? Out of all the things you can watch for in a pool match, people are focusing in on... aiming systems?!?

When I have the opportunity to watch someone -- a friend, like JoeyA -- play, I watch his form and fundamentals, his cue ball control, his ability to maintain composure when his opponent is firing back, etc. Aiming at the ball is second-nature and not even a consideration -- it's a "done deal" when he gets down on the shot (or it *better* be a done deal!).

Honestly, folks, it's roughly analogous to watching NASCAR, and people are focusing on what color of plastic is in the drivers' helmet faceshield they're using to see the track...

:confused: :scratchhead:
-Sean
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I agree.
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sfleinen said:
Honestly, I don't get it. What is this fascination with aiming systems on these boards? Out of all the things you can watch for in a pool match, people are focusing in on... aiming systems?!?

When I have the opportunity to watch someone -- a friend, like JoeyA -- play, I watch his form and fundamentals, his cue ball control, his ability to maintain composure when his opponent is firing back, etc. Aiming at the ball is second-nature and not even a consideration -- it's a "done deal" when he gets down on the shot (or it *better* be a done deal!).

Honestly, folks, it's roughly analogous to watching NASCAR, and people are focusing on what color of plastic is in the drivers' helmet faceshield they're using to see the track...

:confused: :scratchhead:
-Sean
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Sean, you know the answer to that. It's because they can't play.
 
TheThaiger said:
Sean, you know the answer to that. It's because they can't play.
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Well I would try you and JoeyinCali some. Either of you PM me with where you play and how much you want to bet and we get down some day. When you beat me then you can say how much I can't play and get paid for saying it.

I promise to play at least $100 a game one pocket with either of you or short sets of 8-9-10 ball for $100 a set and freeze up at least $500. Not the world but it should buy you a couple lunches. We can even play Rotation if you like or straight pool or an all-around.
 
JB Cases said:
Well I would try you and JoeyinCali some. Either of you PM me with where you play and how much you want to bet and we get down some day. When you beat me then you can say how much I can't play and get paid for saying it.

I promise to play at least $100 a game one pocket with either of you or short sets of 8-9-10 ball for $100 a set and freeze up at least $500. Not the world but it should buy you a couple lunches. We can even play Rotation if you like or straight pool or an all-around.
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:D

When I showed my backers your youtube clips after your last challenge, they creamed themselves. They'll piss themselves even more when I show them this.

$500! :D:D:D

Yeah, I'll fly halfway round the world for $500! :rolleyes:
 
JoeyA said:
Tonight, I played in the tournament and I was struggling in most of my matches. I actually used CTE/Pro1, manual CTE/Pro1 as taught by Stan Shuffett, Perfect Aim and Shane Van Boening's aiming system. It was a hell of a day and night. :D
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I think you should have spent more time disproving the methods on paper.

Congrats champ.

Freddie
 
ratnip said:
The only obvious thing I noticed from watching Joey A's match it that the placement of his wallet (back pocket) is a leading cause of sciatic back pain for men. Which the back pain will undoubtedly affect his pool game in the future no matter what method he uses. Therefore, I plead with Joey A and all back-pocket-wallet poolplayers to relocate their wallets.

This is just a friendly pool community reminder of the dangers to wallet placement.

Jay P.
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Nice post.

Freddie <~~~ Front Pocket Member for over 10 years
 
ratnip said:
The only obvious thing I noticed from watching Joey A's match it that the placement of his wallet (back pocket) is a leading cause of sciatic back pain for men. Which the back pain will undoubtedly affect his pool game in the future no matter what method he uses. Therefore, I plead with Joey A and all back-pocket-wallet poolplayers to relocate their wallets.

This is just a friendly pool community reminder of the dangers to wallet placement.

Jay P.
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Jay,
My wallet has gotten a little thicker this past weekend so I think I am going to spread some of that dough around. I don't want my back to start hurting.

If I could cut down on the amount of crap that I carry in my wallet, I could move it to the front pocket. If Samm Diep did a "What's in your front pocket?" for JoeyA, the world would get a big laugh. I probably don't have room for a wallet in my front pocket with all the stuff I carry there.

I've been meaning to be more organized and less of a pack rat. Maybe your post will inspire me.
 
JoeyA said:
I had a lot of fun tonight.

Before I begin, I should tell you that looking at contact points and using CTE/Pro1 is not unheard of. Stevie Moore does this all of the time and so do I. I believe that the more visual information that you feed yourself the better off you are regardless of what aiming system you use.

Tonight, I played in the tournament and I was struggling in most of my matches. I actually used CTE/Pro1, manual CTE/Pro1 as taught by Stan Shuffett, Perfect Aim and Shane Van Boening's aiming system. It was a hell of a day and night. :D

Ready to get some sleep.

My last match was my best match but it wasn't on the tv table. 7-2. One of they guys who has never seen me play on a bar table (which I don't often) said, "Hey Mr. Joey, I thought you only played on the big tables", to which I replied, "Well, I am trying to learn how to play on the small tables". My opponent groaned and said, If you don't play on the bar tables, I would hate to see you play me on the big tables". At that time, I hadn't missed a ball in the whole set. Really, the balls were just breaking and separating well and I made one or two balls on the break with easy runnouts and he wasn't getting any breaks.

BigTruck, Ray Hansen was doing his thing tonight as well and made it to the final eight on the winner's side. He credits Perfect Aim by Gene Albrecht and JoeyA's dried Turkish Apricots from Whole Foods. :D

Nite....
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Personally I don't care what aiming system you use...I enjoyed watching you play!
 
But the way Joey's been playing, don't be surprised if everybody starts carrying big wallets in their back pockets - even if they have to stuff 'em with Monopoly money. :grin:

Best,
Brian kc <---- been carrying what I need on a money clip for over 20 years (a few credit cards, driver's license, picture of John Brumback, and some cash - what else do you need?).
 
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