John Brumback's "Bank Pool Secrets of a World Champion"

I do when it's fifty bloody dollars a pop! Christ, how have we got into this situation? No wonder pool is a dead man's game with BS like this. High time we democratised the game.

To the contrary, I believe pool has got into this situation because of attitudes like yours.

When a pro like John Brumback, who represents the game with respective and dignity, can't even ask $50 for a DVD that he has put his whole life into without the pool nits whining.. there is definately something wrong in the pool world. Furthermore, when someone states that illegally pirating DVD's is perfectly acceptable... there is something seriously wrong.

I find your comments extremely disturbing....
 
I do when it's fifty bloody dollars a pop! Christ, how have we got into this situation? No wonder pool is a dead man's game with BS like this. High time we democratised the game.

I'm not sure what you mean by "democratised" the game but I think it's more important to support the game, see how far $50 goes in another sport. For example go take a thirty min golf lesson and see how much that is and besides you won't get any major secrets other than keep your head down or rotate your hips. Send your kid to sport camp for a day such as basketball, baseball, soccer, or cheer leading and see what that costs....way more than $50 i promise.
 
I do when it's fifty bloody dollars a pop! Christ, how have we got into this situation? No wonder pool is a dead man's game with BS like this. High time we democratised the game.

Now that's laughable as are 99% of your other useless comments! Do you actually play this game?
 
To Thaiger and Thaiger critics: I'd appreciate it if you'd take further discussion to another thread. Thanks.

Lou Figueroa
 
I do when it's fifty bloody dollars a pop! Christ, how have we got into this situation? No wonder pool is a dead man's game with BS like this. High time we democratised the game.

Dude, nits like you shouldn't even PLAY pool. For real.

Here you are in a thread about John's DVD knocking the price when EVERYONE worth their weight in pigeon shit thinks it's a STEAL for $50.

You should stick to buying used Dora the Explorer DVDs at yard sales or something.

I feel like spraying my laptop with Lysol after reading your creepified nitty post. It's disgusting.
 
I only have 1 thing to complain about... I sought out JB at the DCC to buy a copy from him in person.... I paid my 49.95 and he offered me my nickle back as well LOL....

I stuck it in the control room and forgot about it until I got home... When I opened it once I got home I noticed that he didn't autograph it anywhere......

John!!!! Ya gotta autograph the ones people buy from ya personally from now on.......... :idea2:

I did the same thing. I wish it was autographed. This is a great video and well worth every penny.
 
I like to pause the DVD and try to duplicate what he's doing on a shot. I'm a reasonably good banker but he opened my eyes on several things. I felt like he was talking directly to me, since I was making many of the mistakes he talked about . He definitely shares some "secrets" of banking that have not been widely publicized previously. I can honestly say that I learned a few things from watching this DVD:

Ditto on this Jay!!!! Anyone who heard me online the last couple of days at the Derby probably thought I was overly man-crushing on JBKY due to this DVD.

There was a basic mistake I've always done that he corrects over and over and he explains why it's a mistake.

Freddie <~~~ DVD-crushing!
 
To Thaiger and Thaiger critics: I'd appreciate it if you'd take further discussion to another thread. Thanks.

Lou Figueroa

I agree. The debate about the cost of John's DVD is a landslide in favor of it being a steal for $50.

I purchased my copy from "pool101" here on AZB. (If I'm not mistaken, he is either the main Producer or helped with the production at the very least.) I agree with Lou and others that this DVD is a steal for what it contains. I'm still going through my copy as time permits, but let me say that Lou nails it in his review.

TheThaiger: you *do* realize that the DVD costs 50 AMERICAN dollars, right? That's like, what, £30 where you are? Or €38? 30 pounds or 38 euros. I mean, really? You consider that expensive for an instructional DVD that, if digested and practiced, quite literally could take you a couple levels higher in playing ability? This isn't "pie in the sky" knowledge -- it's truly practical and eye-opening information. I consider John's product easily in the same league as the products offered by Freddy Bentivegna ("Banking with the Beard," "GosPool," "Banks that Don't Go but Do," etc.). And that's saying something.

-Sean
 
Really?

People being negative and taking a thread away from it's original intent bothers you, Lou?

Really?

BTW, I loved your review, Lou

Although unspoken, there's technically a good point here. Regardless of product (whether that be an aiming system, banking methodologies and techniques, etc.), product reviews *SHOULD* go in the Instructional Material Reviews forum, not here in the Main forum.

I mean, I enjoyed reading Lou's review, but in the face of what happened with other product reviews posted here (e.g. aiming systems, perfect aim, etc.), let's be fair, right?

-Sean
 
Really?

People being negative and taking a thread away from it's original intent bothers you, Lou?

Really?


As a general rule, no, it doesn't bother me.

However, my personal philosophy is that an OP is well within his rights to asks posters, in a thread he's originated, to stay on topic. But typically, OPs here don't do that and threads migrate and often land far afield from where they started. In the past, many of the threads I've started have transitioned into "open season" mode and that's fine. But, as the originator of this thread, in this particular case, I'm making the request. If it doesn't happen quite obviously there's nothing I can do about it.

Lou Figueroa
 
I concur with Lou, this is one powerful DVD. If you are serious about improving your Bank game then this DVD is a must have. John's laid back style is easy to digest and he has a strong clear voice so you won't miss anything he says. I also like his repetitions of the same bank so you can watch different parts of what he does when he executes the shot. I especially liked the use of slow motion on many of the shots, although I wish they had used it on all of them. It's a good production with excellent camera work, good lighting, good audio and a nice clear picture. That makes it that much better. It has the look of a professional production and not something just thrown together.

I like to pause the DVD and try to duplicate what he's doing on a shot. I'm a reasonably good banker but he opened my eyes on several things. I felt like he was talking directly to me, since I was making many of the mistakes he talked about :smile:. He definitely shares some "secrets" of banking that have not been widely publicized previously. I can honestly say that I learned a few things from watching this DVD. It's really more for the intermediate or better banker and not for rank amateurs. They will not be able to execute these shots even if shown how. In all honesty, there are some shots on here that were hard for me to duplicate, even after seeing how they were done. You can't teach stroke! lol

Yes it's true, the price is high for a pool DVD, but the knowledge is invaluable. It's like having John give you a private lesson or two. How much would that be worth? John was hesitant to put this out there at first, because he knew it would also help his opponents. If you can afford it, it's well worth the price. If not then take a pass. Like I said, it's a valuable tool for the serious banker. In fact for any serious pool player who wants to learn to bank better. :thumbup2:

I live about 35 minutes from John. I have been up to his house and spent a day with him soaking a lot of this information in. I can tell you it was much more than $50 for his time. I paid significantly more for a private lesson and I felt like I was stealing.

The information John has will take years off of your bank pool learning curve. I play a pretty good games of bumps (being from Kentucky and all :) ) and John showed me things that have skyrocketed my bank game. Last night, in five games I ran two fives, a four, and a three.

If that isn't worth $50, then you really don't care about getting better at pool.
 
Please buy one straight from John and support the man who has put a whole life of hard work, practice, and dedication into the game of bank pool. $50 is a very small price to pay for the wealth of information contained in this DVD.

John deserves the business... it hate to see it when these pros put out a DVD and people start copying them, or watch them once or twice and put them on the secondary market. It is not fair to them as this is how they make their living.

That's like saying, "please only buy new cues from cue makers, don't buy second hand ones, because the cue makers really need the money and have put a lifetime of dedication and hard work into learning the trade and just because you're not going to use the cue anymore it doesn't matter, you should be forced to keep it."
Your argument is ridiculous. I never asked anyone to make a copy for me. I asked them to sell an original product they no longer had a need for. According to your logic the For Sale/Trade section of this forum should be removed. Nobody should be allowed to use Ebay or Craigslist. Nobody mentioned piracy, but you. I think you were just trying to stir controversy in here.
 
I watched mine for the 6th or 7th time yesterday and picked up something new. Amazing lesson. Thanks again John.
:p
 
To Thaiger and Thaiger critics: I'd appreciate it if you'd take further discussion to another thread. Thanks.

Lou Figueroa

I agree...this thread is in CELEBRATION of John Brumback and his
banking prowess.

BTW...when you speak of areas known for bankers......
...do not forget Tennessee
 
Yes I am the producer, and I hit a home run with this DVD. Thank you John!
I have to say something about pirating, John sold a DVD to a guy in Ohio and the next day another guy came to John and said "I got your DVD" John said "you did?" and the guy said "my buddy bought it from you yesterday and he made me a copy and I gave him$20.00 for it!"
Now, I don't know if I would be out of jail yet if that happened to me!
Anyone can crack a DVD with a little time, but if you want people to continue to produce informational DVDs to this small market, we need to support the players that are providing the information.
John's information will really help the player that wants to learn, and that will make it harder for John to win tournaments. John really deserves to be rewarded for providing this to the rest of us!
Please Do Not Steal from John! If you think it is ok, show your family what you are doing. Be proud! Would you teach your kids to steal from your friend that made a DVD?
Think about it.
And to everyone that has purchased any of the DVDs I have made, Thank You!!
Mark
 
To Thaiger and Thaiger critics: I'd appreciate it if you'd take further discussion to another thread. Thanks.

Lou Figueroa

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Nice review and it's a great DVD. The price seems very reasonable to me.
 
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