some for Azer's,..
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thank you sir,.. :wink:
everybody knows exactly what happened here,.. les "the general" took all your money without our knowledge, but despite of everything that les did,.. i am still here posting, not running away to our obligation,. now if you want to ruin our name by simply putting us in a bad light,. its your call,.
i wont argue but we will continue to work in our time to finished and finally send all this orders that les took upfront all your money.. the owner of this progress cues i posted is already knew that it will be ship to them in their respective mailing addresses soon, actually they were three ( gsg212, skidrow, dehouser ) and other's will follow soon,..
i know your upset nathan, just like us,. but i am optimistic in the nearer time that we will be able to catch up and move forward to this untoward incident that les started against us and to all of you involved,..
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Mervin and Bebot are really good guys. It is so sad that the other guy ripped off the money and therefore made them look bad.
Finances being what they are in the Philippines, it is very difficult for them to survive and make good on those promisses that the other guy made in a fast manner. It sucks but I'm sure that Mervin will come through.
--Jeff
Finances being what they are in the Philippines, it is very difficult for them to survive and make good on those promisses that the other guy made in a fast manner. It sucks but I'm sure that Mervin will come through.
--Jeff
many thanks sir manwon for your kind words,. :smile: appreciated that
thank you sir jeff for the heads up, really do i understand the feeling and sentiments of nathan here and also the other guy who is still waiting for their cue also, its just that, we really cant rush this thing easily, we take it one cue at a time, we dont want to suffer the quality of the cue of course that why we really asking for a lot of time to finish it off,..
thanks again here sir jeff, appreciated that,..
mervin
Your numerous attempts at busting this man's sales aren't going to get you your refund any sooner.
It's obvious from the threads that I've read (and many others have read as well) that mErVIN didn't
take your money but he's the one you've decided to blackmail.
My response to you would be quite simple.
You gave your money to the 'general'. You want a refund, see the 'general'.
KJ
KJ,
I'm not sure of your background here, but if you allow someone to broker new product for you, they become an agent of yours. You are responsible for fulfilling the deals they broker. If they cheat you, you need to break your deal with them and recover any losses from the broker.
Seperating from the broker does not eliminate you as a responsible party. This is why cuemaker's in general do not like bringing in a salesman who asks for cues and guarantees high dollar sales, if they can get free or cheap cues first.
This is why all ~10 of us have a legitimate issue with Bebot Bautista. If this would have happened locally, I would be suing and winning my money back. Remember, the_general promoted himself as a representative of their company. This is different than retail where the retailer assumes responsibility for not delivering.
I don't need to find les. Bebot Bautista or Mervin need to find him.
Let me be clear, I'm raising this issue because I see no reason why this would not happen again. . .Eddie Wheat. . .and others. Bebot Bautista has huge protections from legal action as they do not fall under US law and would be hard to take action against.
This is a market issue. BB cues uses the AZ market to sell cues because the sell for much more that they do locally. They must build a customer base. They were doing ok here under the_general. Now they have left a group of customers hanging. Some are being made, but I have never received any details about progress on my cues. My cues were supposed to be in the middle of construction when this blew up. What happened to the cues?
I have dealt with other international makers and continue to hold them in the highest regard. Mervin, please raise yourself to this level. Do not let this internal battle(between BB and the_general) hurt your overseas marketing.
I'm not sure of your background here, but if you allow someone to broker new product for you, they become an agent of yours. You are responsible for fulfilling the deals they broker. If they cheat you, you need to break your deal with them and recover any losses from the broker.
Seperating from the broker does not eliminate you as a responsible party. This is why cuemaker's in general do not like bringing in a salesman who asks for cues and guarantees high dollar sales, if they can get free or cheap cues first.
This is why all ~10 of us have a legitimate issue with Bebot Bautista. If this would have happened locally, I would be suing and winning my money back. Remember, the_general promoted himself as a representative of their company. This is different than retail where the retailer assumes responsibility for not delivering.
I don't need to find les. Bebot Bautista or Mervin need to find him.
Let me be clear, I'm raising this issue because I see no reason why this would not happen again. . .Eddie Wheat. . .and others. Bebot Bautista has huge protections from legal action as they do not fall under US law and would be hard to take action against.
This is a market issue. BB cues uses the AZ market to sell cues because the sell for much more that they do locally. They must build a customer base. They were doing ok here under the_general. Now they have left a group of customers hanging. Some are being made, but I have never received any details about progress on my cues. My cues were supposed to be in the middle of construction when this blew up. What happened to the cues?
I have dealt with other international makers and continue to hold them in the highest regard. Mervin, please raise yourself to this level. Do not let this internal battle(between BB and the_general) hurt your overseas marketing.
cant you see what we are doing now??? even the grade schooler can clearly understand this,..
i think mervs he doesn't understand what you have been doing here in az .
you and your family are busting your ass just to deliver the cues even though you haven't receive a single payment from the general.
hopefully one day he will understand and i hope its not too late for him to realize it.
like the japanese said " ME SPEAK NO ENGRISH "
you and your family are busting your ass just to deliver the cues even though you haven't receive a single payment from the general.
hopefully one day he will understand and i hope its not too late for him to realize it.
like the japanese said " ME SPEAK NO ENGRISH "
Oh, let me be clear my goal is not to get a refund. It is to make every money holding cue buyer aware of how this operation is run and crush his business until cues are made for paid buyers. Overseas buyers are paying Bebot ALOT for his cues compared to PI. He and his coworker robbed many overseas buyers. Prospective buyers need to know Bebot Bautista cues stole our money. If they have a beef with Les, chase him around the island and beat him to death for all I care to get your money. Not my issue.
thats what i have heard through the grape vine
You know FatBoy, I really have no updated info on this and I'm not sure if they have made it right with the people that got scammed by "The General" (including Bebot Bautista).
Pretty sad situation all around.
--Jeff
Just so we are clear....still no cues, still no money, but maybe I have stopped Mervin from swindling others as he has not posted in over 5 years.
Those of you who posted how Mervin is such a stand up guy, see where he is now. Look in the mirror. Do you like what you see? Do you like where you placed your bets?
Those of you who posted how Mervin is such a stand up guy, see where he is now. Look in the mirror. Do you like what you see? Do you like where you placed your bets?