Retipping 80+ one piece bar cues.

80 house cues to 3 tables.... That sure seems like a lot. Guess there will be a good selection. With that many of them I would imagine that You may run into some ferrule issues. If Not you will down the road, and somethings are more complicated or much more labor intensive to attempt By hand.. Other common things that happen are weights coming loose inside the handles, tenons breaking, and fixing rubber bumpers. Not all require a lathe to actually get the job done, there are hand tools available, that after much trial and error may give you results that You can live with on house cues, but a lathe is faster, and makes things much easier to do a somewhat professional job at in maintaining them. I've been on both sides of that fence, and don't think I could go back to hand tipping. I done them By hand though, so I know It can be done. The hand tools that I used were not cheap though, and I really wished I would have bought mini metal lathe that I could have added a rear bearing rest to with that money spent on the hand tools. That's ancient history now though, I have that, and other lathes that I do repair and build on now, but If I had It to do over I think I would have gone that way instead.

Back in the day when I started I used $100 wood lathe to clean and polish shafts ,a rapid top sander, and big shaver or something like it, among other little tip tools and gizmos for the tips. I did ferrules with a Taylor tenon machine. A Crude device that can do some damage if not used properly, but after some trial and error, I was able to get It tuned In well enough to do a decent job of putting a new ferrule on. Took a lot of labor, and attention to detail to get something acceptable enough that I could live with, and I'm sure I was a lot less picky at the time then I am now when It comes to quality. If I add everything I had together into money spent, I could have probably come close, if not had enough to just buy a mini lathe in the first place.

Anyhow just someones take that has been there.
 
I still think buying a small repair lathe is your best bet...... These tips will probably need to be done within the next six months, maybe sooner.
There has been a lot of good advice in this thread, most of which advises that this number of hand tips will make you crazy :)
I recently worked a big tourney, it took a couple days to do a hundred tips... With a lathe.
 
For all to see!

Here is what I am doing:

Start by hand 8-10 cues at a time. While I look for the money to invest in a lathe. I'm sure before I finish the job, I'll have one set up, and be poking all of you again for advice! :thumbup:

Big huge "THANKS!" to EVERYONE!
 
Job is done!

Well I figured I owed it to all those people who gave me advice to get started!

Finished off the last of the original 80 cues contracted last month, took home between 8-12 cues at a time (as needed) sorted through the junk that couldn't/shouldn't be fixed, and did them all by hand!

(Not as bad given that it was spread out over so long).

Tools I've used regularly are as follows:

- Rapid top sander (Tweeten if you can find it)
- Porper mushroom shaver
- Big Shaver (Tricky to get used too, watch those ring marks on the shaft!!)
- thick rubber bands
- Magic erasers + Denatured alcohol (Must have)
- Q wiz (great product!)
- Q Smooth micro sanding papers (tried also "All American Smooth Cue" papers, and 'Nick's Edge") I liked the 4 stages vrs 3. I believe McD also offers that, but I haven't tried them)
- razor knife
- Williard Tip Shaper (Nickel & Dime)
- Loctite Gel Control (Impact resistant)
- micro polishing cloth
- Q-Wax (I still think I like this better then butchers, but I'm not using a lathe, that may make a difference)
- Butchers bowling alley wax (decided to try something new)
- Cue Rx Dent Remover tool (Hand tool)
- Last4Ever Tool
- Smooth Piece of soft leather
- Misc 3M sanding pads (0000, 000)
- Clear burnishing liquid
- Painters Tape (must have, at least at first)

all is said and done, yes I would do this again, yes I learned & had fun!

My recommends:
buy a lathe for between $500 - $1300 (cuts time down, easier to achieve a great "Finished by professional" look.
Williard machine (if you do not have space for a lathe)
Charge between $7.50-$10 per tip (not including ferrules) Stick to this, your time spent is worth this at min.
Use Lepro / (Elkmasters work if they have blue/green felt) expect bad tips. (Factor in 80 / 100 are good)
Do things in batches, take your time don't rush, establish a routine/process.


Make sure you have everything you need ready when you start. :thumbup:
ferrules & adhesives can act differently. Have a couple options of CA's :thumbup:
 
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Here is what I am doing:

Start by hand 8-10 cues at a time. While I look for the money to invest in a lathe. I'm sure before I finish the job, I'll have one set up, and be poking all of you again for advice! :thumbup:

Big huge "THANKS!" to EVERYONE![/

I hope you lapped the bottom of the tips before you glued them???

When I first starting doing tip I could not figure out why the were coming off. Then my friend Stu pointed out to me that I need to glue a 150 grit paper to a flat piece of wood so I could lap the tip and keep it square. Glad I got that squared away within a few days.

I had never seen a video and thought you could just glue on tips out of the box to the face of the ferrule. NOT!

Rick
 
i tried replacing tips for a pool hall - a bulk of 25-30 cues. i did it all manually (i dont have a lathe). I used a very very sharp deba knife and sandpaper for trimming the sides; and a tip shaper. took me an entire day, i think. i cannot imagine doing 80 cues. :D
 
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