Corey Deuel runs again

dmgwalsh said:
It has been very quiet on this forum lately.

Here is another Corey Deuel run from Chez Maropulos for your viewing pleasure.

http://vimeo.com/40859799?utm_sourc...content=cliptranscoded&utm_campaign=adminclip
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Thanks for posting that dennis, that was fantastic !!

Corey surely loves those behind the rack breakshots from what i gather after watching this and corey's other runs that you posted.

Corey really has some imagination when it comes to patterns, just when you think you have his end pattern figured out he throws you for a u-turn and shows ya how he does it !

Thanks Again
-Steve
 
Thank you Dennis, Wow that kid is good (never watched him before) seems to be playing fast and loose, but it works for him. The CB movement setting up the final breakshot was fantastic, I never would have tried that.
(I also wish my table spread open balls like that!)
 
michael4 said:
Thank you Dennis, Wow that kid is good (never watched him before) seems to be playing fast and loose, but it works for him. The CB movement setting up the final breakshot was fantastic, I never would have tried that.
(I also wish my table spread open balls like that!)
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Did you see how many times he polished the balls. Your table might spread open the balls just like that if you keep them as polished as Cory did. Maybe you do already, but if not try it they spread much easier when polished.
 
michael4 said:
By the way, how is he racking? slug doctor??
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no, Bill Marop uses a template to treat the rack area by making slight divots in the cloth. Doesn't affect ball movement (unless realy slow roll) and gives a tight rack every time. It is called Rack-M-Rite.
 
i thought the most interesting shot in the entire -- impressive -- run was the very first shot he played after the opening break.

at first i thought "why That ball?". then i saw the shot make the object ball and open THREE clusters. holy f**k.

besides the behind-the-stack preference, Corey's playing shows a ton of these 2-way shots. he also clearly missed a bunch of attempted bump-outs of key balls, which makes him seem a Little more in the human league.

another interesting thing is his very upright stance. i hardly ever see rotation games; does he play that way in those as well?

i liked this run a lot better than the earlier ones posted to Vimeo, it seemed much cleaner, at least at my level of awareness of what's going on.
 
Chez Maropolis is getting to be like Chez Fatboy. Nice to know that when I get to running 200 balls every day I have a place to stay in sunny California.
 
wigglybridge said:
i thought the most interesting shot in the entire -- impressive -- run was the very first shot he played after the opening break.

at first i thought "why That ball?". then i saw the shot make the object ball and open THREE clusters. holy f**k.

besides the behind-the-stack preference, Corey's playing shows a ton of these 2-way shots. he also clearly missed a bunch of attempted bump-outs of key balls, which makes him seem a Little more in the human league.

another interesting thing is his very upright stance. i hardly ever see rotation games; does he play that way in those as well?

i liked this run a lot better than the earlier ones posted to Vimeo, it seemed much cleaner, at least at my level of awareness of what's going on.
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I had to look at that first shot 3 times, There is no question what happened was about exactly what was intended. fwiw, I would have shot the ball into upper r pocket all day long. Great shot, I wonder if this shot "inspired" him to continue?
as for the polishing of the balls all the time I have to agree with Bobby C. don't touch them once you begin.
play the game.
great run
steven
stuck in the 60's for a little while.



steven
 
thanks to marop and dennis

corey is wonderful to watch. what a tremendous player-- his stroke is so fluid, so athletic (I know that sounds ridiculous in describing a pool player)

as steve already noted, corey is certainly enamored of the underneath break shots- his stroke is so powerful that it's effective even when he chooses the wrong english

we (I) can only watch in envy at the ease with which he pockets shot that i would agonize over LOL

anyway, thanks again for posting this- i thoroughly enjoyed watching

jim
 
Well, I'm just going to throw this old log onto the fire and see what kind of flame I get, but, IMO: once you start a run, unless there's a big honkin' piece of chalk on the CB, *no balls* gets cleaned once a run has started.

I mean, what? Are we all suppose to start hauling our own ball polisher down to the pool hall?! (I get enough funny looks bringing in my own set of balls.)

OTOH, it does give you some kind on insight as to how important the top guys consider clean balls :-)

Lou Figueroa
 
lfigueroa said:
Well, I'm just going to throw this old log onto the fire and see what kind of flame I get, but, IMO: once you start a run, unless there's a big honkin' piece of chalk on the CB, *no balls* gets cleaned once a run has started.

I mean, what? Are we all suppose to start hauling our own ball polisher down to the pool hall?! (I get enough funny looks bringing in my own set of balls.)

OTOH, it does give you some kind on insight as to how important the top guys consider clean balls :-)

Lou Figueroa
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To my good friend, Lou and to others who are concerned about the purity of the game: I think Corey was kind of like a kid with a new toy, that new toy being Bill's ball cleaner. He was just experimenting with the ball cleaner, trying to figure out straight pool and shooting the breeze with Bill before they went out golfing. I don't think he had any idea that his every move would be dissected by the AZB police.

Bill said maybe I shouldn't have put them up because everyone would be talking about ball polishing. I thought some of us would see beyond that and just enjoy the runs.

Was I wrong??

p.s.

I have 8 more of his runs over 100.
 
dmgwalsh said:
To my good friend, Lou and to others who are concerned about the purity of the game: I think Corey was kind of like a kid with a new toy, that new toy being Bill's ball cleaner. He was just experimenting with the ball cleaner, trying to figure out straight pool and shooting the breeze with Bill before they went out golfing. I don't think he had any idea that his every move would be dissected by the AZB police.

Bill said maybe I shouldn't have put them up because everyone would be talking about ball polishing. I thought some of us would see beyond that and just enjoy the runs.

Was I wrong??

p.s.

I have 8 more of his runs over 100.
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"AZB police." Nice pejorative, Dennis. Spoken like a true lawyer.

Look, Schmidt does pretty much the same thing, if I recall, polishing the balls during his runs at Bill's house. So it's not just about Corey.

I think polishing the balls during a run impugns its integrity.

Let's extend this to the a 14.1 Challenge at Philly, the DCC, or Vegas. Should a player be allowed to polish the balls every few racks?

Lou Figueroa
 
dmgwalsh said:
To my good friend, Lou and to others who are concerned about the purity of the game: I think Corey was kind of like a kid with a new toy, that new toy being Bill's ball cleaner. He was just experimenting with the ball cleaner, trying to figure out straight pool and shooting the breeze with Bill before they went out golfing. I don't think he had any idea that his every move would be dissected by the AZB police.

Bill said maybe I shouldn't have put them up because everyone would be talking about ball polishing. I thought some of us would see beyond that and just enjoy the runs.

Was I wrong??

p.s.

I have 8 more of his runs over 100.
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I enjoyed watching it. I noticed he used the same opening break shot John Schmidt likes to use.
 
lfigueroa said:
"AZB police." Nice pejorative, Dennis. Spoken like a true lawyer.

Look, Schmidt does pretty much the same thing, if I recall, polishing the balls during his runs at Bill's house. So it's not just about Corey.

I think polishing the balls during a run impugns its integrity.

Let's extend this to the a 14.1 Challenge at Philly, the DCC, or Vegas. Should a player be allowed to polish the balls every few racks?

Lou Figueroa
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Lou: "AZB Police" A little weak, but you get the point. Computer jockeys telling the pros and others what they should do.

Schmidt has polished the balls during a run. Not all runs. Not even sure if he does it anymore. Corey did it quite a bit from the videos I have watched so far.

When Corey was playing, I do not think he thought he would put this video out for the public to see to show them how well he plays 14.1. He does not even know this is out.

I'll put a disclaimer on the others I post, so you won't have to look. The rest of us can watch the runs and enjoy.

Regards, Dennis
 
dmgwalsh said:
Lou: "AZB Police" A little weak, but you get the point. Computer jockeys telling the pros and others what they should do.

Schmidt has polished the balls during a run. Not all runs. Not even sure if he does it anymore. Corey did it quite a bit from the videos I have watched so far.

When Corey was playing, I do not think he thought he would put this video out for the public to see to show them how well he plays 14.1. He does not even know this is out.

I'll put a disclaimer on the others I post, so you won't have to look. The rest of us can watch the runs and enjoy.

Regards, Dennis
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No need for a disclaimer -- by and large I don't watch them anyway. Those runs are so far removed from real life conditions it's fantasy pool. It's kind of like watching someone shoot fish in a barrel. I'd rather see a 100 ball run where a guy has to work a little bit, shooting racks that don't pop wide open even time.

And you know what? It's exactly the aficionados who should be telling the pros what to do.

Lou Figueroa
 
lfigueroa said:
I think polishing the balls during a run impugns its integrity.

Let's extend this to the a 14.1 Challenge at Philly, the DCC, or Vegas. Should a player be allowed to polish the balls every few racks?

Lou Figueroa
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If there was a rule that it's being done ever ten racks, for example, why not? As to the "integrity" of a run, if we ever expect anyone to run four digits, I don't believe this could be at all achieved without cleaning the cue ball occasionally. At least not in our climate. It can be such a problem, I have now made it a habit to clean the cue ball racking for my next break with the type of plexiglass marker our refs use at e.g. the European Championships each time I'm on a reasonable run with no end in sight. Even in situations where the chalk spots on the cue ball don't necessarily lead to a miss, I've seen the cue ball climb an object ball and hop instead of slide all the way to the stack etc. - no fun when this happens e.g. at 98+/99. :rolleyes:

lfigueroa said:
I'd rather see a 100 ball run where a guy has to work a little bit, shooting racks that don't pop wide open even time.
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Agree. Having said that, again, depending upon climate, one will never see this… :(

Greetings from Switzerland, David.
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Jesus Christo ...

Dennis, thx and keep posting 'em. I, for one, appreciate and enjoy them.

Lou, I don't think you need to be in this thread anymore ... talk about making Himalaya out of ant hills.

I mean, it's just a guy, whom we happen to recognize, running crazy number of balls using his own style of patterns; at someone's house probably not realizing it's going to be posted on the 'net being dissected.
 
acousticsguru said:
If there was a rule that it's being done ever ten racks, for example, why not? As to the "integrity" of a run, if we ever expect anyone to run four digits, I don't believe this could be at all achieved without cleaning the cue ball occasionally. At least not in our climate. It can be such a problem, I have now made it a habit to clean the cue ball racking for my next break with the type of plexiglass marker our refs use at e.g. the European Championships each time I'm on a reasonable run with no end in sight. Even in situations where the chalk spots on the cue ball don't necessarily lead to a miss, I've seen the cue ball climb an object ball and hop instead of slide all the way to the stack etc. - no fun when this happens e.g. at 98+/99. :rolleyes:



Agree. Having said that, again, depending upon climate, one will never see this… :(

Greetings from Switzerland, David.
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„J'ai gâché vingt ans de mes plus belles années au billard. Si c'était à refaire, je recommencerais.“ – Roger Conti
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Four digits runs?! I guess you're something of an optimist, David :-)

Lou Figueroa
 
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