Cue Weight Tolerances...

droveto

droveto

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If you order a cue that is listed as 19 oz., but when you get it, it weighs in at 18.5 oz., would you care?

My girlfriend bought her first cue, I took some hits with it and felt that it seemed lighter than my 19 oz. breaking cue and she was surprised at how much different it felt than my 20 oz. playing cue...

Easy fix, sure, but was just curious how particular people are about cue weights on a new cue. (For those interested it's the Meucci demo cue with a Predator 314 shaft purchased from budgetcues.com)
 
i went to the site and saw they offer an 18.5 oz also among other weights
i would send it back to get the weight you want
to me 1/2 oz is more than "alittle off"
 
bbb said:
i went to the site and saw they offer an 18.5 oz also among other weights
i would send it back to get the weight you want
to me 1/2 oz is more than "alittle off"
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Wow, good find! I'm surprised I didn't notice that.
It appears she wants the 20 oz anyway so we'll hopefully just get the weight bolt kit sent to us and fix it ourselves. The cue really felt like a toy. Does anyone actually like a cue so light?
 
droveto said:
If you order a cue that is listed as 19 oz., but when you get it, it weighs in at 18.5 oz., would you care?

My girlfriend bought her first cue, I took some hits with it and felt that it seemed lighter than my 19 oz. breaking cue and she was surprised at how much different it felt than my 20 oz. playing cue...

Easy fix, sure, but was just curious how particular people are about cue weights on a new cue. (For those interested it's the Meucci demo cue with a Predator 314 shaft purchased from budgetcues.com)
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When manufacturers list cue weights I think they are including the standard shaft. Not sure if it applies in your case but I know for my McDermott it weighs a whole lot less with the ob shaft.
 
zpele said:
When manufacturers list cue weights I think they are including the standard shaft. Not sure if it applies in your case but I know for my McDermott it weighs a whole lot less with the ob shaft.
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This particular web page is specifically for that cue with a predator 314 shaft (as in, I didn't choose to substitute one shaft for another, but clicked the link and ad page for "Meucci demo cue with predator 314 shaft) so I would think the weights they list and send out would be accurately accounted for.
http://www.budgetcues.com/meucci-demo-cue-predator-314.htm

That being said, it's a nice cue for someone to get who wants good performance at a relatively inexpensive price. If the predator shaft is 1/2 oz. lighter than a black dot and they list their weights without accounting for that, it's a little bit of an oversight. Or, they just set the cue up wrong from the beginning. I have an email into them and we'll see.
 
ctyhntr said:
Do both cues have the same balance point?
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My break cue and her playing cue? I doubt it.
I weighed them though so I'm not basing my feeling on differences in weight based on feel but on the readings of a scale.
 
I would bet they weigh the butt and have an assumed weight for the shaft. With a regular shaft I don't think they would be more than .2 oz off.

Larry
 
droveto said:
Wow, good find! I'm surprised I didn't notice that.
It appears she wants the 20 oz anyway so we'll hopefully just get the weight bolt kit sent to us and fix it ourselves. The cue really felt like a toy. Does anyone actually like a cue so light?
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My '68 Joss is 18.5 oz.
I wouldn't change the weight for anything.
My second cue, when I traveled a lot, was a Szamboti weighing 20.25.
There were conditions that would make me favor one cue over the other....
...the Szamboti was great on slow cloth.

When I order a custom cue, I tell them somewhere between 18 and 20 oz.
To me, these are all playable weights.
 
droveto said:
This particular web page is specifically for that cue with a predator 314 shaft (as in, I didn't choose to substitute one shaft for another, but clicked the link and ad page for "Meucci demo cue with predator 314 shaft) so I would think the weights they list and send out would be accurately accounted for.
http://www.budgetcues.com/meucci-demo-cue-predator-314.htm

That being said, it's a nice cue for someone to get who wants good performance at a relatively inexpensive price. If the predator shaft is 1/2 oz. lighter than a black dot and they list their weights without accounting for that, it's a little bit of an oversight. Or, they just set the cue up wrong from the beginning. I have an email into them and we'll see.
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I've been tempted by one of those for a while now - are they pretty good then? How easy is it to move the cue ball, and what's the build quality like?

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pt109 said:
My '68 Joss is 18.5 oz.
I wouldn't change the weight for anything.
My second cue, when I traveled a lot, was a Szamboti weighing 20.25.
There were conditions that would make me favor one cue over the other....
...the Szamboti was great on slow cloth.

When I order a custom cue, I tell them somewhere between 18 and 20 oz.
To me, these are all playable weights.
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I agree. to me weight is low on my priority list when it comes to cues. I am very particular with most everything else about a cue, besides weight.
 
Donkey Bruce said:
I've been tempted by one of those for a while now - are they pretty good then? How easy is it to move the cue ball, and what's the build quality like?

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My playing experience is really pretty limited. I've only owned one decent cue, a Meucci HP that I got in 2001 with a red dot shaft. I'm an APA sl6 and there are probably some much better players here that could give a much more appropriate review than I could given my limited experience hitting different cues.

That being said, I don't have anything bad to say about it. I got decent action with the 18.5 oz demo cue with 314 shaft with the stock Everest tip when compared with my 20 oz Meucci with the red dot shaft and Moori tip. I've just become so use to the whippy shaft of the red dot that the thick hit of the 314 doesn't really appeal to me. For players getting their first decent cue, I'd say it's the way to go. Also for players that know they like the Predator shafts and want a nice playing quality butt to come with it at an inexpensive price, I can't imagine there being a better way to get into that set up.

I did swap the shafts on the cues and played them to see if I could really feel any noteworthy differences, but I noticed the difference in weight much more than any difference in english and accuracy... I'll be able to give a better review when we get the weights on the demo cue and can compare them more evenly... Sorry for such a vague response, but I really don't have extensive enough experience to give anything close to a thorough review...
 
It's because

of the shaft. But when I get a cue made, I expect it to be within .2 of an oz.
 
droveto said:
Wow, good find! I'm surprised I didn't notice that.
It appears she wants the 20 oz anyway so we'll hopefully just get the weight bolt kit sent to us and fix it ourselves. The cue really felt like a toy. Does anyone actually like a cue so light?
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why get the weight bolt??
if the cue is new and lightly played just send it back and get the weight you want???:confused:
 
droveto said:
Wow, good find! I'm surprised I didn't notice that.
It appears she wants the 20 oz anyway so we'll hopefully just get the weight bolt kit sent to us and fix it ourselves. The cue really felt like a toy. Does anyone actually like a cue so light?
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I play with a 17.3oz custom spitz cue balance point at 19.5 cues plays lights out, I practice with my 19.5 Huebler all week then switch to my custom for Wednesday night leagues and weekends... Seems to work for me
 
droveto said:
My playing experience is really pretty limited. I've only owned one decent cue, a Meucci HP that I got in 2001 with a red dot shaft. I'm an APA sl6 and there are probably some much better players here that could give a much more appropriate review than I could given my limited experience hitting different cues.

That being said, I don't have anything bad to say about it. I got decent action with the 18.5 oz demo cue with 314 shaft with the stock Everest tip when compared with my 20 oz Meucci with the red dot shaft and Moori tip. I've just become so use to the whippy shaft of the red dot that the thick hit of the 314 doesn't really appeal to me. For players getting their first decent cue, I'd say it's the way to go. Also for players that know they like the Predator shafts and want a nice playing quality butt to come with it at an inexpensive price, I can't imagine there being a better way to get into that set up.

I did swap the shafts on the cues and played them to see if I could really feel any noteworthy differences, but I noticed the difference in weight much more than any difference in english and accuracy... I'll be able to give a better review when we get the weights on the demo cue and can compare them more evenly... Sorry for such a vague response, but I really don't have extensive enough experience to give anything close to a thorough review...
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ive played with a 20 oz cues for the last 20-30 years
i have had several long breaks in between
ive been playing with cues in the 19- 19.5 oz range lately
one cue that was was 18.5 oz i tried felt like a twig
just my experience
 
bbb said:
why get the weight bolt??
if the cue is new and lightly played just send it back and get the weight you want???:confused:
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If I send it back I would expect they'll just add the weight bolt and ship it back, no?

The weight bolts are on the way free of charge...
 
droveto said:
If you order a cue that is listed as 19 oz., but when you get it, it weighs in at 18.5 oz., would you care?

My girlfriend bought her first cue, I took some hits with it and felt that it seemed lighter than my 19 oz. breaking cue and she was surprised at how much different it felt than my 20 oz. playing cue...

Easy fix, sure, but was just curious how particular people are about cue weights on a new cue. (For those interested it's the Meucci demo cue with a Predator 314 shaft purchased from budgetcues.com)
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Hello Lock N Roll,
I play with a 17 oz, or 18 oz. Anything else is to heavy for me. My Sneaky Pete is 18.50 oz. I never play with it though. A half oz can make a difference with some people. You seem to like a heavy cue. I don't like a heavy cue. Let her shoot with it a little while and see how she likes it. Keep your cue away from her so she can get use to the new cue.
Many Regards,
Lock n load.
 
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