Need Lock for Cue Case (photo's enclosed)
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Replacing a lock on such a case is no simple matter, they were not designed to come apart. Taking it apart can destroy the case. Replacing with a different lock IMHO destroys a valuable case even if the work itself does not destroy the case.
Those latches have not been made in a long time and only very occasionally does one come up for sale. There were a bunch of them sold a few months back with the contents of Bob Hempel's storage locker, but I don't think any of that stuff has hit the market since then.
There are many locks and latches that could be used instead if one didn't care about destroying the case. JB once made some links to such places, I'll see if I can find the post.
Check luggage hardware suppliers. You can also check with people that make instrument cases. The latches on the GTF cases are actually flute case latches. You can google flute case latch and find something like this:http://www.jlsmithco.com/CASE-REPAIR/Latch-Flute-Cutout-Left
IMHO rather than destroy a very high grade case for a cheap fix, why not sell it and buy a functional case or even trade it for one?
Hope that helps.
Those latches have not been made in a long time and only very occasionally does one come up for sale. There were a bunch of them sold a few months back with the contents of Bob Hempel's storage locker, but I don't think any of that stuff has hit the market since then.
There are many locks and latches that could be used instead if one didn't care about destroying the case. JB once made some links to such places, I'll see if I can find the post.
Check luggage hardware suppliers. You can also check with people that make instrument cases. The latches on the GTF cases are actually flute case latches. You can google flute case latch and find something like this:http://www.jlsmithco.com/CASE-REPAIR/Latch-Flute-Cutout-Left
IMHO rather than destroy a very high grade case for a cheap fix, why not sell it and buy a functional case or even trade it for one?
Hope that helps.
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If it's a matter of a key, I have an original Fellini key for my own case and would be happy to copy it for anybody who needs one. I guess it would cost a few bucks.
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i've been looking for awhile now, (doc, i'd like to keep that key offer on the back burner).
searched cosmetic case hardware, musical instrument luggage hardware as well as every
known travel bag i could think of, jewelry box hardware too.
used keywords and believe it or not, those small Fellini style latches and locks eluded me.
this is about the best i could find::
searched cosmetic case hardware, musical instrument luggage hardware as well as every
known travel bag i could think of, jewelry box hardware too.
used keywords and believe it or not, those small Fellini style latches and locks eluded me.
this is about the best i could find::
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Oh it's very believable that you couldn't find the locks. Many of us have tried many times. Sometimes if I am up late that is one of the searches I run. I have looked at thousands of latches and locks in image searches and web site searches.
I didn't realize you were going to pursue it so hard, but should have known though. We all do it.
Realizing you would do it just like the rest of us I should have given you another piece of information. Those Fellini type latches were originally "diary locks" if I remember correctly. When I found out that little tid bit I thought I was on fire. I thought I was going to be the one to source them.....no luck.
I don't remember where I heard about the being diary locks but it was Probably JB (John Barton). If it's a cue case, has anything to do with a case, resembles a cue case, smells like a cue case, or once spent some time in the same room with a cue case....John Barton knows about it.
If John Barton couldn't find a source then there isn't a source. But as I said, there was a box of them found in Bob Hempel's storage locker. I don't know who has them.
Somewhere...in a dusty old storeroom, there are two or three forgotten boxes of them...I just know it.
I had pictures of one of those cases disassembled. I thought I would post therm for you but now I can't find them.
Basically the tube that the lock is fastened to has another smaller tube inside it and the lid fits on the smaller tube. The smaller inner tube is glued in. The rivets of the lock only go through the outer tube, the lock was installed before the inner tube was glued in. So you have to get the lining out and bust the inner tube out. I guess one could rivet all the way through both tubes but then you have the rivet bottoms sticking out into the inside of the case where your cue lives.
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I didn't realize you were going to pursue it so hard, but should have known though. We all do it.
Realizing you would do it just like the rest of us I should have given you another piece of information. Those Fellini type latches were originally "diary locks" if I remember correctly. When I found out that little tid bit I thought I was on fire. I thought I was going to be the one to source them.....no luck.
I don't remember where I heard about the being diary locks but it was Probably JB (John Barton). If it's a cue case, has anything to do with a case, resembles a cue case, smells like a cue case, or once spent some time in the same room with a cue case....John Barton knows about it.
If John Barton couldn't find a source then there isn't a source. But as I said, there was a box of them found in Bob Hempel's storage locker. I don't know who has them.
Somewhere...in a dusty old storeroom, there are two or three forgotten boxes of them...I just know it.
I had pictures of one of those cases disassembled. I thought I would post therm for you but now I can't find them.
Basically the tube that the lock is fastened to has another smaller tube inside it and the lid fits on the smaller tube. The smaller inner tube is glued in. The rivets of the lock only go through the outer tube, the lock was installed before the inner tube was glued in. So you have to get the lining out and bust the inner tube out. I guess one could rivet all the way through both tubes but then you have the rivet bottoms sticking out into the inside of the case where your cue lives.
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I used to work as a lock smith.
If it is just a key that you need, any lock shop can cut you a key as it is just a very simple skeleton type key way.
If it is just a key that you need, any lock shop can cut you a key as it is just a very simple skeleton type key way.
Maybe. I dunno. And I don't know who has them...certainly a bunch.
But even if you have the lock, it's no small task to put it in AFAIK.
Has anybody seen one properly replaced? Know of any?
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