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The runout
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It easier to runout a 9 ball rack on any size table. 
"IMO"
"IMO"
It easier to runout a 9 ball rack on any size table.
"IMO"
8 ball is much easier on a 9 foot table. 9 ball is a joke on a bar box.
I'm not sure about 8 footers. I don't ever recall playing on an 8 footer actually.
Doesnt make any difference.
9 ball is (basically) half as many balls and 9/10 racks are straight runouts after the break. Its always going to be an easier out. :wink:
It easier to runout a 9 ball rack on any size table.
"IMO"
I agree. Less traffic to get in the way.
I think that you might have more opportunities with 8 ball than 9 ball since you
are probably always assured of at least one shot after the break.
are probably always assured of at least one shot after the break.
On a 9 foot table I think 8 ball is easier. I don`t know anything about 8 foot tables. In 8 ball it is easier to make a ball on the break and you pretty much always have a shot after the break. Plus there are often a number of options when playing position.
I would say 8 ball is easier on a 9 foot because you are almost guaranteed a shot after the break. The added number of balls doesn't matter much because they spread out well on a 9 foot table anyways.
I say 8 ball is harder. Almost always there are a ball or two tied up you have to break out and there is more traffic to negotiate. Yes, if you don't pull shape on a specific ball, there are "options", but those options start to disappear the further you get into the run out.
I believe that statistically, 8 ball is easier as you have so many more options.
Big difference between having a shot and having a clear runout.
You have a much less chance of a clear runout in 8 ball and anytime you have to bump balls or break open clusters, you have to take chances.
In 9 ball there's a dramatically less percentage that you'd even have to break a single ball out. And you almost never see a true 'cluster' unless you nearly missed the whole rack on the break.
Big difference between having a shot and having a clear runout.
You have a much less chance of a clear runout in 8 ball and anytime you have to bump balls or break open clusters, you have to take chances.
In 9 ball there's a dramatically less percentage that you'd even have to break a single ball out. And you almost never see a true 'cluster' unless you nearly missed the whole rack on the break.
The likelihood of having a cluster in 8 ball is higher, but not dramatically so. Open tables occur in 8 ball quite often as well. Not to mention that in 8 ball clusters are much easier to break out than in 9 ball because you can pick your pattern to the cluster.
Blah Blah blah.....
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You make a ball in 9 ball , theres only 8 balls left on the whole table. On an 8' your probably make 2. 7 balls on the whole table versus 12/13/14 even?
Thats easier than playing the ghost !
Doesn't any body here think they can run a rack of 7 balls on an 8 foot table....?
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Seems a lot of times you make the 1 on the break and get stuck on the 2 ball when playing 9 ball. When do you ever get stuck on the break when playing 8 ball? Just way more options to plan your run out how you like to play your game with 8 ball. Heck, that's why 9 ball needs the push out rule.
It easier to runout a 9 ball rack on any size table.
"IMO"
I agree as well, although I'll add that 9-ball on a barbox is a joke.
Here's the deal -- folks seem to be missing the following facts:
- In 9-ball, you're starting out with approximately half the number of balls as in an 8-ball rack.
- Safeties are easier in 9-ball. There is only one object ball in 9-ball that you need to hide the cue ball from, and all the rest of the balls on the table are eligible blockades. In 8-ball, you have to hide the cue ball from *multiple* opponent's object balls.
- In 8-ball, the deeper you go into the runout, the more difficult it becomes. Getting position on the last one or two balls, and then the 8-ball, becomes critical. Fail this, and you've just left your opponent a Marianas turkey shoot -- even easier than running out a 9-ball rack, because he/she gets to shoot them in any order.
- In 9-ball, the runout gets easier as you start clearing balls off the table. There are no "opponent's balls" that are off-limits and obstacles to you, that you have to always navigate around. As you clear the table, you make it easier and easier for yourself. You just have to be able to move the cue ball -- a skill of which both 8- and 9-ballers already have.
-Sean
i am just an old bar banger and only have 3 years experience playing 9 ball " 1 year bcapl, 2 years apa, 2 sessions in napa." before joining leagues a few years ago i never played 9 ball because i hated the slop factor.
i have made quite a few break an runs in 8 ball but have never made a break and run in 9 ball.
i have made quite a few break an runs in 8 ball but have never made a break and run in 9 ball.
Can it be considered somewhat easier to run out in 8B since you're free to shoot any ball in your color group? To me it's a wash and completely depends on how the balls spread after the break.
The real challenge would be to play 8B and finish your color group in rotation.
The real challenge would be to play 8B and finish your color group in rotation.