my experience with apa in tunica

thanks for the effort and time you took to give me advice. unfortunatly it has been my experience your advice does not work.

you see ... i have hit the bottle many a time trying to drown my problems, they keep coming back.

cute picture of your kid btw :grin-square:

Hey Buddy, You took a little bit of a blood bath today so I will be gentle.

FYI, I was refering to the milk bottle..

Stay off the hard stuff
 
i do not know yet who won the apa tunica tournament but i would not be suprised if a team from north arkansas was in the finals.

we lost to them in the 4th round i think it was. they threw up a 6 1st and we countered with a 5. this 6 would be a 7 in our league. the match must have lasted an hour with them winning. it went 32 innings with 28 safties played.

next match we threw me "i am a 5 " they threw a 4. this match went 31 innings with 21 safties played. this 4 would be at least a 6 in our league.

cant tell you about the other 3 matches i went and smoked then browsed through the vendor section. we did win 2 though, with them winning the last match.

i know this team well and you who i am. do tell buddy... pm me
 
Obviously you don't know much about the different formats that are offered in the APA. Masters has no handicaps and combines both 8 ball and 9 ball with a push out in 9 ball and jump cues are legal.

I mentioned that I like this format in an earlier post in this thread. If I recall correctly our league played no slop for 8-ball.

Super 30 divisions in 8 and 9 ball are available which allows teams to have a much stronger line up. skill level limit is 30 in 5 matches. Jump cues are legal and the super 30 divisions are a cash payout division.

I didn't know about this format, but it still has a skill level total limit. My point in this thread has been that I am against that. As someone else said, the handicap system itself should be enough for fairness. When they impose a total team limit, they are trying to splinter teams, making people create more teams, to increase profits forcibly.

Hope this will enlighten you a little.

My points are still valid, at least those are my opinions.

I still think it would be cool to have a series of separate leagues all run buy the same "league brand". Each would be no handicap and you just have to play in the league that is correct for you skill level - with stiff penalty for trying to sneak into a lower league than your ability.
 
Not that anyone cares what I think , but after all my experiences with different leagues , I wouldn't play in one if they paid me $30.00 a night just to show up.
I am 100% serious.
 
Hey Buddy, You took a little bit of a blood bath today so I will be gentle.

FYI, I was refering to the milk bottle..

Stay off the hard stuff

i was funnin with you. i knew what kind of bottle you refered to. please dont take my post serious.

i like that phrase " blood bath " lmao.

i just told what i thought about the situation. internet warriors dont phase me much. like any one else i have my bad days and things get to me though.

like i said in my last post in that thread , i honestly dont know what my cue should be worth. i priced it a lil less than what he had those plainer cues priced at.

its funny how guys can go in the for sale section and price a cue at around 400.00 to 500.00 more than what they paid for it a week or 2 earlier. its amazing how their cues always hit a ton, best playing cue they ever held, never chalked, only hit a rack or 2 with it, most amazing wood they have ever seen and on and on and on.

yet when i state i think i got a low ball offer ," half the value of his cues with no ivory" and mine has 16 inlays of ivory, i get berated. lol
 
It does seem that certain problems are universal to any league.

i think an old saying i heard holds true for leagues,or any organization that has a lot of members for that matter.

you can please some of the people all the time.
you can please all of the people some of the time.
but you will never please all the people all the time.
 
i think an old saying i heard holds true for leagues,or any organization that has a lot of members for that matter.

you can please some of the people all the time.
you can please all of the people some of the time.
but you will never please all the people all the time.

Yes, but the real question is, "Will you piss off everybody at one point or another?"

Half kidding, half serious. :wink:

Fatz
 
Not that anyone cares what I think , but after all my experiences with different leagues , I wouldn't play in one if they paid me $30.00 a night just to show up.
I am 100% serious.

I don't enjoy leagues, especially amateur leagues. Handicaps? Don't make sense to me. I made my living playing straight up. My friends played collegiate, leagues, and pro. I was a member of a couple of organizations that survive today, but they have changed a bit.

The only experience I had "officially" in amateur leagues was almost ten years after I had given up my "career" in pool. I was on a break from med school and got enticed to join an amateur team. The team got to go to Vegas, and I got called back to school. So I wasn't there in the end. But I have to say it was the most miserable period of pool for me. All the convoluted BS instead of pool was a pain in the ass. The rules were horrible and the politics never ending. Pool is not at team sport. It is an individual sport. You play the table, you play the balls, you play yourself. The whole experience of amateur pool league for me was really poor.

I really don't care how well somebody else plays unless there is money on the table. These days I suck. I don't play much. But even still, when I am on my game (when I find my stroke) I run racks. All this handicap stuff is BS the way I see it. If you can't run with your opponent then don't compete against him. Sure, play with him. Learn from him, but sure as hell don't compete with him. I paid for my undergraduate degree with exactly that attitude.

I have no issue with those that want to participate in and enjoy such endeavors, but for me such things are eminently unsatisfying, even now when really I am just an old banger. Just don't catch me when I am "on". :wink: Then school is open.






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If you have some sort of proof I would bring that to the attention of the APA league office. I am sure they would not be pleased with a LO abusing the system.

Been there, done that. APA reported the complaint back to the LO who punished the whistleblower by raising handicaps. This has happened twice that I'm aware of.

My understanding is that there is a lot of difference in how LO's manage their respective areas. And the APA basically gives each LO full rein to to do as they see fit. When I played APA, I never saw a single example of where reporting issues to the national office made a positive difference.

I do understand though that there are excellent LO's out there. :cool:
 
Been there, done that. APA reported the complaint back to the LO who punished the whistleblower by raising handicaps. This has happened twice that I'm aware of.

My understanding is that there is a lot of difference in how LO's manage their respective areas. And the APA basically gives each LO full rein to to do as they see fit. When I played APA, I never saw a single example of where reporting issues to the national office made a positive difference.

I do understand though that there are excellent LO's out there. :cool:



And how do you know what happened between the LO and league office? I am sure APA finds it in there best interest to protect the franchise name. ANother thing is I have no clue if the complaint was legit in the first place.
 
And how do you know what happened between the LO and league office? I am sure APA finds it in there best interest to protect the franchise name. ANother thing is I have no clue if the complaint was legit in the first place.

The vast number of these tales seems to be enough indictment of apa.

I still like 'em, though. The apa brings in more new players than any other pool organization I can think of. That's good. And that its rules drive the better players to other organizations is good for the whole sport.

If apa did as some here wish they did, other pool organizations might suffer from fewer players. The apa might even make more money overall, so maybe they're being unintentionally altruistic by driving players elsewhere?

Jeff Livingston
 
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