composite vs solid shaft feel

[Henry Wong]

Is it impossible for a laminated piece of wood to be as dense as a solid piece of wood? I'm asking this in reference to the "solid" feel of a one-piece maple shaft versus a LD composite shaft. I can't seem to feel a significant difference between hitting a well-regarded custom cue and a composite. what would be a good way to test for this feel? Those of you with much more pool experience then I, appreciate a your views on this subject.

Cheers,
Henry

 

[mortuarymike-nv]

laminated

I think there is a big difference in sound, feel, and performance.

most LD shaft are hollow at least the tip end of the shaft , if not the whole shaft is hollow. Giving the cue a different sound.

( Some )Laminated shafts after a while you can feel each layer at least in my opinion.

MMike

 

[Ratta]

I think there is a big difference in sound, feel, and performance.

most LD shaft are hollow at least the tip end of the shaft , if not the whole shaft is hollow. Giving the cue a different sound.

( Some )Laminated shafts after a while you can feel each layer at least in my opinion.

MMike

@MIke and Mr. Wong,

you should make 100% clear, that laminated and LD can be both very different things.
If we are talking about the laminated shafts with a *hole* additional, like for example Predator 314-2, z², OB1 and so on-- then there is of course a big difference in sound/hit.

I for example have shafts from a friended Cuemaker, who builds his own *LD-Shaft*. He s using also a shortened ferrule-and additional a drilled/bored hole in the first few inches of the shaft. Those shafts he made for me are playing rocksolid- and til now NOBODY noticed that there is a difference. It sounds exactly like a solid shaft- plays very well with perfect repeatable results. Just that the shaft has a very good low-deflection result.

So like always: sound and hit are personal preference, and are always subjective opinions. But i would call myself expirienced if it s about laminated and low-deflection shafts, because i was curious about them. I test 9 different shafts over a longer distance-so here i just talk about my personal expirience-and not what i read here and there or heard somewhere,

lg from overseas,

Ingo

 

[mortuarymike-nv]

I agree

@MIke and Mr. Wong,

you should make 100% clear, that laminated and LD can be both very different things.
If we are talking about the laminated shafts with a *hole* additional, like for example Predator 314-2, z², OB1 and so on-- then there is of course a big difference in sound/hit.

I for example have shafts from a friended Cuemaker, who builds his own *LD-Shaft*. He s using also a shortened ferrule-and additional a drilled/bored hole in the first few inches of the shaft. Those shafts he made for me are playing rocksolid- and til now NOBODY noticed that there is a difference. It sounds exactly like a solid shaft- plays very well with perfect repeatable results. Just that the shaft has a very good low-deflection result.

So like always: sound and hit are personal preference, and are always subjective opinions. But i would call myself expirienced if it s about laminated and low-deflection shafts, because i was curious about them. I test 9 different shafts over a longer distance-so here i just talk about my personal expirience-and not what i read here and there or heard somewhere,

lg from overseas,

Ingo

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You are right,
I didnt make a seperation between LD and LD laminated real clear.
I have a bias opinion so I stopped myself short. I was going to go into details about my personal experience with different shafts.
But I didnt think I am very open minded to give a un bias opinion on them.


(My) bias opinion is, I enjoy playing with a solid shaft the best :thumbup:


MMike

 

[Ratta]

Everyone should stay forever with the kind of shaft he learnt and feels good with.

 

[KRJ]

Is it impossible for a laminated piece of wood to be as dense as a solid piece of wood? I'm asking this in reference to the "solid" feel of a one-piece maple shaft versus a LD composite shaft. I can't seem to feel a significant difference between hitting a well-regarded custom cue and a composite. what would be a good way to test for this feel? Those of you with much more pool experience then I, appreciate a your views on this subject.

Cheers,
Henry

They are just different and thus will sound and feel different. There is not a better feel or a sweeter sound than a hard hit ball off a good maple bat..... but performance wise, the alloy bats will put a wood bat to shame in performance....and they don't feel or sound half as good as wood......

There is a reason they are not allowed in MLB, cause somebody would lose their head, literally.

My Burton Spain has the best feel of any cue on the planet and I believe the the most harmonic sound in billiards when you hit it just right, IMO,,,, but my OB pockets the balls better..... I prefer results over sound and feel.....

Technology marches on. Spain was a great cuemaker, I still love the cue, and will NEVER sell it and pull it out once in a blue moon to shoot, but the new LD shafts are just too hard to beat... I wish I had changed years ago !!