Changing pool starts by giving weaker players a chance at some $$$.
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I find YOUR post ridiculous sir~~@!!!!! =)
Pool is not war, blood, sweat, tears, and sacrifice. That trivializes actual war, hard work and sacrifice. Pool is a form of recreation and we enjoy it because in many ways it "haha fun".
If pool were not fun, this forum would have zero people. Nobody plays a game where their only motivation is to dominate other people. We're not dogs that have to kill, hump or bark at every other moving creature on the block.
If tournaments offered no handicap and no payout for, say 5th... then four well-known guys would show up at every tournament and the rest of us would stay home.
Remember there is no buyin and not all players play in the tournament; only those players whose ticket gets drawn will play in each event. The venues, leagues, weekly tournament directors, and cue/table service businesses purchase the tickets and then reward them to players as a form of customer appreciation. This generates the prize pool which we won't ever expect to be called 'pathetic.' Imagine for an eight player tournament...
1st $1000
2nd $400
3rd $200
4th $100
5-6th $50
7-8th $25
The field strength will be about average, but the prize pool is above average to say the least.
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Not sure who you selling raffled tickets for?, i would make 4th and 5th place prize money given to who wins the raffle tickets that is only sold to those that lost 1st round of winner side, and for losers in first round of losers round, just a thought
Maybe that's that attitude in 9/10 ball, but in a really tough 8 ball match it is war. War of wills, a war of who's skill is better, a war of who has the patience to wait until the time is right to strike.
I'd love no handicap tourney's that have long races. This is whats separates the pool players from those the play at pool. To me, there is no better test of a players overall pool skill set than a 8 ball matched played by those that truly understand the game of 8 ball. I've had matches that were indeed wars and I was sweating during the games, and almost cried a few times because of piss poor shooting.
I don't care one bit about the money. I care about playing by best at all times. If this gets me in the money great, if not, then I got work to do. I've played long enough to know you can't win them all, too.
Instead of fearing those 4 players, become one of those four players. Winning at pool consistently more then others is not dominating them, its just being a better pool player and are not someone playing at pool. Winning is the purpose of the game. If not, then there would not be handicap tourney's for for the weaker players.
So, is it ok for a player to "dominate others" by winning just because of their rating level and not true skill level which non handicap as all about.
This idea of being able to win or you won't play is just silly. You realize that this really hurts the tourney when the payout depends on the number of players entered.
Ever wonder why the last place person in say NASCAR keeps racing? Got no chance ever of winning but he's out there doing it race after race. Why, he loves to race and doesn't care about winning. He is not pouting asking for x amount of laps for a handicap.
He also realizes that even in last place, he is supporting the sport by racing, by being involved. His involvement helps keep cost down to others. Think how much the entry, fees, gas, and such would cost if only there were just only 4 racers.
You want to win, you need work for it, train for it, and yes this does require sacrifices which those that play at pool are not willing to make unlike those that play pool.
When you concern yourself with who is in a tourney, you just lost. Your only concerns is your game, not someone else's game. You need to be realistic with your skill level and as such not have expectations of your level of play that exceeds them.
Once I got to playing better players, way better, heads up in long races, I was taking beating on a regular basis. Over and over.......this is a hard thing for me to take. But, over time, the beatings got fewer and fewer. Before long, the roles reversed.
What's makes these win against these better players so sweet is the fact I did it on my own. No form of spots were used.
And guess what, I'm slowing becoming one of those 4 players that seem to bring fear in some. And I like.
Two and out consolations are exactly the kind of ways we are going to encourage weekly tournament directors to reward their tickets. The idea is one of the first that made our list. I'm not surprised someone here understands the concept we've developed, and I hope more of this will come as we move forward.
Here's a link to a list of ways players might earn their tickets. Hope it helps explain our goals.
https://sites.google.com/site/grandtourpromotions/100-ways-to-earn-a-ticket
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Sorry, but the guy that comes in last place in NASCAR usually gets around $80,000 per race.
This is what Dave Blaney used to do...go out for 10 laps and then park it and collect the money. Even at the small local tracks everyone gets paid...even for last place.
What Dave Blaney used to do is called---start and park, collect $80,000 and save on fuel and tires then head to the next race.Of course it is a spectator sport though so it pays everyone...like boxing, UFC, etc.
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This is exactly the motivation around here. You need to get live bodies in the door that will eat food and drink drinks. And maybe play pool. Pool rooms are not charities. If the room has no chance to make back any added money either in tournament-day sales or long-term increases in business, the owner has no reason to have a tournament.
I'm not sure of the details of the system the OP is suggesting (maybe they were posted and I missed them) but it seems he is proposing to reduce the number of people playing in any particular tournament. I think the only place for such a tournament is in some kind of championship where ratings and qualifiers precede the championship event. I think that is not what a room owner wants to see for a promotional event.