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It would seem to be an alternative term for cutting a shaft down...perhaps by questionable means?
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Most players in Asia have their shafts "peeled". Because (1) our hands are smaller than Americans and the taper is really thick joint-end, (2) humidity is high in Asia and if we keep the finish layer, the shafts will be very sticky after 15-20 mins of playing.
normally we only do it right through the finish, no more.
Hi, it's not like that, it is a way of making the shafts better fit the player
1500 sandpaper is for making the shafts smooth. the peeling involves using rougher sandpaper, more like 400-600 to go through the finish, then at the end go with 1200-1500 sandpaper to make it smooth. this peeling, of course, is done on a lathe.
players from Taiwan and Philippines even use 1200-1500 sandpaper during a match
the ridge is a result of very very intensive peeling, yes. normally we don't do our shafts that intensively.
normally we only do it right through the finish, no more.
Hi, it's not like that, it is a way of making the shafts better fit the player
1500 sandpaper is for making the shafts smooth. the peeling involves using rougher sandpaper, more like 400-600 to go through the finish, then at the end go with 1200-1500 sandpaper to make it smooth. this peeling, of course, is done on a lathe.
players from Taiwan and Philippines even use 1200-1500 sandpaper during a match
the ridge is a result of very very intensive peeling, yes. normally we don't do our shafts that intensively.
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When I was young we used to take my Dad's car to the Steak & Shake and hang out. When it was time to leave we'd peel out of the parking lot and onto the street. It was cool, man.
As for peeling a cue, I haven't a clue. :smile:
As for peeling a cue, I haven't a clue. :smile:
What finish layer? Proper shafts are not finished anyway, except near the joint.
I wear a size 6-6 1/2 surgical glove (very small hands, smaller than most women), and I have never had a shaft cut down. Even then, this does not seem to be a proper way to cut down a shaft.
To an American pool player, such a shaft is mangled and mistreated....and no explanation is going to change that.
hi,
I am trying to share information here, is it necessary to go BIG AND BOLD like that? I can read very well sir.
I am not the inventor of that habit, all I say is the fact that people do here.
What is the use of a pool cue if it does not suit the player, or if it is sticky? what we do is for us to perform better with the cue, what's wrong with that?
I, unlike my Vietnamese AzBer huysmall, am fully aware of the fact that Americans or players from other countries do not appreciate tuned down shafts. that is why I only have my playing shaft tuned down and I never try to sell my cues with a tuned down shaft.
And what do I have to explain/prove here? I am just sharing information, answering the OP's question. I am not trying to protect anyone/anything here.
Basically, peeling a shaft is just butchering it up for good..........
BOLD GETS ATTENTON, clearly. Is it necessary? No. It is merely what I wanted to do, it's my logon, my post, I bold when I want it to be seen because I have a point to drive at.
I never suggested you were doing anything but conveying information, so I am not sure why you seem uncomfortable with my response. I suspect it is simply because you do it yourself and hence feel the need to be defensive.
I believe it is clearly understood what the practice is yet even with your kind description it still remains a questionable practice to those of us here in the West. You stated the finish is removed yet when I asked "what finish?" there remains no explanation. We are very familiar with players and equipment from high humidity regions as well...for example the very famous players from PI, and we do not see this from them. People from PI also happen to be small of staure typically, and have small hands. In addition, I used my own hands as an example, which are very small, yet I have never had a shaft cut down. No, I am not a "pro" but my high run at straight pool is in the three figures. So I question the necessity of such a thing.
Lastly, from an aesthetic standpoint it leaves something to be desired. One of the reasons customs are sought is because of aesthetics.
I appreciate the information, but it does not in fact address the issues.
All of a sudden you go big and bold, that scared me of a little bit
All the shafts I have here have those kind of finish layer, thinner on the taper and thicker towards joint-end.
you say you have smaller hands than most women, but I have comparatively larger Vietnamese hands, and just about 2/3 of Western women's hand
about PI players, I have seen some of them upclose and ALL of them used sandpapers in matches, and their shafts clearly show traces of being tuned down.
again, I must stress the playing shafts vs. collecting shafts. we don't tuned down shafts we don't play with. I play with a Sugartree and I have 3 shafts, 2 with matching ringworks and 1 with plain black collar. and I tuned down the 3rd black collar shaft for playing, 2 other shafts left untouched.
I am sure PI pros have a lot of shafts and they surely don't tuned down shafts they don't play with
another thing about custom cues. In Vietnam, most cues are production cues, mainly Mezz or Predator. players pick their butt and shaft, then tuned down the shaft for playing, and they tend to keep their tuned shaft forever, if they sell, they only sell the butt, or if the shaft is included, its value is 1/3-1/2 brand new price. getting another shaft for the butt is also very easy due to mass production.
playing with custom cues is quite rare in Vietnam. mainly because we don't have much access to custom cue market and if we own custom cues, they are mainly kept for collection.
All of a sudden you go big and bold, that scared me of a little bit
BOO! LOL!
Yes, I think we have all seen the guys from PI with burnishing papers (fine sandpaper), and I am sure some here use it. But that's still not quite what we are seeing with this "peeling".
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in fact, they do "peel" on the lathe to some extent, what they do with sandpaper in matches were just smoothing.
you guys can look at Taiwanese and Philippines players on youtube, if their shafts have a small area of light color at joint-end, then blueish all over to the ferrule, they surely had their shafts "peeled" or "tuned"
My own shafts look that way. But there is no "ridge" between the blued area and the finished area, and they have not been turned nor "peeled" at all.
I've played PI players as well, and never saw such a ridge.
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