Creative shot making.

[poolnoob]

I have never seen this shot before. Rather creative 1-3-9 combination. Click on the link, a small window shows a video of few player showing off some shots. Its about 20 seconds into the footage.

http://www.billiards-tv.jp/

 

[Bob Jewett]

I have never seen this shot before. Rather creative 1-3-9 combination. Click on the link, a small window shows a video of few player showing off some shots. Its about 20 seconds into the footage.

http://www.billiards-tv.jp/

The same shot is in Byrne's "Treasury of Trick Shots" and dates from the early 1800s. It apparently was invented by Francois Mingaud, the French guy who came up with the leather tip. It's actually a double carom shot rather than a combination.

 

[dr_dave]

The same shot is in Byrne's "Treasury of Trick Shots" and dates from the early 1800s. It apparently was invented by Francois Mingaud, the French guy who came up with the leather tip. It's actually a double carom shot rather than a combination.

We also have a collection of shots like this is Section 38 (kiss-back shots) of VEPS-V - Skill and Specialty Shots.

poolnoob, thanks for posting the video link. Shots like those are creative ... and not as difficult as they might seem.

Regards,
Dave

 

[1hit1der]

You should give it a try next time you're at the table. It's not so bad if you keep the balls near the long rail. The 3 ball is 2 diamonds from the corner, which makes it more impressive since a lot of people do this shot with that ball a lot closer. It also gets a lot more difficult if you have to come in at an angle. Sebastian Giumelli played the shot below against Mike Massey in Trick Shot Magic 2005, which is a bit more difficult than the one in the video.

http://pool.bz/P/?@4AOKk4BAWk4CAfR4DAfA4EAek3FCgW4GALW4HCwV3IYnc4PVyX4kVyX4kOSS4kAkk3kWKQ@

 

[Bob Jewett]

You should give it a try next time you're at the table. ... pool.bz ...

The Wei table (cuetable) no longer works for a lot of people. Please post screen captures to illustrate shots.

 

[poolnoob]

The Wei table (cuetable) no longer works for a lot of people. Please post screen captures to illustrate shots.

Yup, it did not work for ma, appreciate all inputs, will try out this shot next time i am at a pool table. Would like to see more shot that are as creative, please feel free to post it up here.

 

[jason]

It's one of those shot you never see because no body in their right mind would ever shoot that shot. It just isn't a game situation shot. Only for trick shooters.

 

[Bob Jewett]

It's one of those shot you never see because no body in their right mind would ever shoot that shot. It just isn't a game situation shot. Only for trick shooters.

Yes, but one value of shots like this is that if you study them you will learn something new about the game and maybe get a feeling for how the ball reacts in strange situations. Those situations come up rarely -- maybe 1% of the time -- but it's nice to be prepared for them. And, the shots are fun.

 

[dr_dave]

Yes, but one value of shots like this is that if you study them you will learn something new about the game and maybe get a feeling for how the ball reacts in strange situations. Those situations come up rarely -- maybe 1% of the time -- but it's nice to be prepared for them. And, the shots are fun.

Agreed. Also, kiss-back shots do come up in game situations (e.g., with certain safeties). Here's an example:

NV B.13 - End-of-game frozen kiss-back safety option​

Regards,
Dave

 

[Jude Rosenstock]

I wouldn't dismiss this shot completely. I can imagine scenarios where shots of this nature would be a genius solution in 8ball.

 

[Patrick Johnson]

Yes, but one value of shots like this is that if you study them you will learn something new about the game and maybe get a feeling for how the ball reacts in strange situations. Those situations come up rarely -- maybe 1% of the time -- but it's nice to be prepared for them. And, the shots are fun.

Seems to me the lesson here is that a kiss-back is like a rail kick but without the spin-robbing impact with the cloth-covered rail. In other words, you can "kick" the cue ball back a substantial distance and it will retain most of its forward spin.

This is in contrast to the similar rail kick shot that was discussed in a previous thread, where we concluded it was unlikely-to-impossible to get the cue ball to return to the rail after kicking it into an object ball 1 diamond from the rail.

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