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interesting connection system thoughts

cjssecrets4u2 said:
That's why I refer to my system as a "Connection System".....I feel like connecting the two balls BEFORE you get down is essential and everyone I've been around on the road does this (in slightly different ways, that's a matter of preference)...once you get down on the shot you can do whatever you want to "aim", I for one, just aim at a specific part of the cue ball and am "just aware of the presence of the object ball" at this point.
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I use system myself, and as i think about it, it DOES have a large amount of connecting the two balls together before the shot is accomplished.
 
peteypooldude said:
Spideys method is very close to 90/90 , though simple as in .....pivot and shoot or less reference points , but easier to master... I think not. The pivot is much larger and if your not perfect with it in the beggining you will miss balls. I have not weeded through the post to question anyone's terminology or information. I don't work like that. I guess pro 1 was easy to understand because I already pivot aimed beforehand . So much so that I stayed with Spideys version
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well 90/90 and spideys is more a rotation to center than a pivot. When you miss with those systems it has nothing to do with "larger pivot". You missed the shot before you even rotated to center cue ball.
 
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porper-sig said:
Which system do you suggest?
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hands down it is cte/pro1 if you want a complete system. with an alignment,aiming and possibly the best banking system out there. Every time you look at a shot using cte/pro1 you have multiple shot options, you are synced to the table and multiple pockets, something for you guys to think about.
 
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Living Legend said:
well 90/90 and spideys is more a rotation to center than a pivot. When you miss with those systems it has nothing to do with "larger pivot". You missed the shot before you even rotated to center cue ball.
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Care to explain?
 
sure, those "half ball pivots" are nothing more than a rotational move to center ball, easy to do and the easiest part of those systems to understand.
 
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I've made a promise to myself to never get hemmed-up in another CTE thread for as long as I live.. so I'm only making one post.

The pivot offset doesn't matter. It can be a 1/16" offset or a full ball offset---- It's how accurately you arc to center that matters.

To make an extreme example, let's say you have a 1" bridge length and 1/2 ball offset. When you eventually get to center (assuming you rotate from the bridge), you're NOWHERE near the shot solution. If you relinquish the concept of pivot points and focus on the OB - you always find your way home.

Conversely, let's say you have a 2' bridge length and a 1/2 tip offset. Once again, when you pivot to center (from your bridge) you're nowhere near the shot solution.

Whenever you get to center (regardless of the pivot system), you arc/pivot/swivel to center based on the OB plane. Unless you arc, pivot, or swivel w/ the OB plane in mind, you're moving into "air." Your tip and OB plane must be in "harmony."

With air pivots/Pro1 pivots, or such--- your eyes really define that movement and your eyes are focused on the OB as the distance "limit." Prob makes no sense and I'm no longer interested in debating this topic -- but I hope someone can read that and get something out of it.
 
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SpiderWebComm said:
I've made a promise to myself to never get hemmed-up in another CTE thread for as long as I live.. so I'm only making one post.

The pivot offset doesn't matter. It can be a 1/16" offset or a full ball offset---- It's how accurately you arc to center that matters.

To make an extreme example, let's say you have a 1" bridge length and 1/2 ball offset. When you eventually get to center (assuming you rotate from the bridge), you're NOWHERE near the shot solution. If you relinquish the concept of pivot points and focus on the OB - you always find your way home.

Conversely, let's say you have a 2' bridge length and a 1/2 tip offset. Once again, when you pivot to center (from your bridge) you're nowhere near the shot solution.

Whenever you get to center (regardless of the pivot system), you arc/pivot/swivel to center based on the OB plane. Unless you arc, pivot, or swivel w/ the OB plane in mind, you're moving into "air." Your tip and OB plane must be in "harmony."

With air pivots/Pro1 pivots, or such--- your eyes really define that movement and your eyes are focused on the OB as the distance "limit." Prob makes no sense and I'm no longer interested in debating this topic -- but I hope someone can read that and get something out of it.
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Makes perfect sense! Rep for your honesty!!
 
with cte/pro1 there is a reason for the left/right pivot, with 90/90 you just need to get to center ball some how lol :) spidey lets not battle brother lol i am leaving it :)
 
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Living Legend said:
with cte/pro1 there is a reason for the left/right pivot, with 90/90 you just need to get to center ball some how lol :) spidey lets not battle brother lol i am leaving it :)
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We're not battling... I'm just saying it's not somehow :) I'm at the bar celebrating FRI......

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I am out of this thread also, I have no desire to fade the BS. Always someone to argue what color the dam sky is. Someone will ask a question and u try to answer and here comes the BS. I should have known better
 
Living Legend said:
well 90/90 and spideys is more a rotation to center than a pivot. When you miss with those systems it has nothing to do with "larger pivot". You missed the shot before you even rotated to center cue ball.
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The pivot with 90/90 is the same .1 place on the cb and 3 on the ob but the pivot should be the same.You do realize that each and every one of us will have a slightly different center just because of bridge length .
(we have the same starting point but the ending will be different.)
You need not have to explain to me 90/90 because already learned it from Ron himself.(No Ron didnt explain anything to me about different bridge lengths)I spent over a year figuring out how and why.(Got it now)
Your quote ...When you miss with those systems it has nothing to do with "larger pivot". You missed the shot before you even rotated to center cue ball...

Wasnt trying to start any bs but was hoping for a better answer and one i could understand.

Take care anthony
 
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