Would you help your opponent??

First off, I wouldn't carry my own bridge.

If I did, I would certainly let my opponent use it...or my break cue (oops, don't carry one of those either).

Under no circumstances may another man use:

1. My underwear
2. My girlfriend
3. My bar of soap

You can HAVE any one of the three (or all three), I just don't want it back when you are done.

Everything else is pretty open for negotiation.

dld

Your a good guy,I don't care what they say about you.
 
First off, I wouldn't carry my own bridge.

If I did, I would certainly let my opponent use it...or my break cue (oops, don't carry one of those either).

Under no circumstances may another man use:

1. My underwear
2. My girlfriend
3. My bar of soap

You can HAVE any one of the three (or all three), I just don't want it back when you are done.

Everything else is pretty open for negotiation.

dld
Funny..was just thinking along the same lines..
local tournment or league, no biggie..But at Nationals,no deal,I wouldn't expect my oponit to provide me with a bridge either.
enjoy the wkend.
 
I would help the guy, say, if he were having a heart attack, or something like that, but I would let him know beforehand that I wouldn't do mouth-to-mouth. I think that's only fair. :smile:
 
If the only thing that allowed me to beat someone is I had access to better equipment than they did, then I wouldn't take any pride in the win.

I'd prefer it if we both had access to the same tools, and the guy who shoots better wins.
Then there can be no question or excuses.

Why be mad at your teammate? Let's be real, a slightly better bridge was only 5% of that 'perfect safety'. The other 95% was your opponent. So if you're gonna get mad at anyone, get mad at him.

Or - don't worry about what your opponent does at the table, as long as it's legal, and just worry about what you do when it's your turn.
 
After the match my teammate tells me it is the classy thing to do

So, the question is would you give your personal bridge to a guy you were playing in a competitive league ? Or just let him use the house bridge knowing the house bridge sucks... What say fellow AZB'ers ??

Absolutely.

And I know in that some leagues have bylaws that say that the home team must ensure that there are proper equipment including bridges.

Freddie <~~~ it's the right thing to do
 
I play in the top league around here. We have most of the best players from within a few hundred miles, many provincial (think state) and a national champion. No slouches, miss and your opponent runs out in most cases.

Guys let others use their equipment all the time. For example, if someone is looking around for a jump cue he will be offered several, some from his own team and some from the opponents team. Maybe this is a Canadian thing :shrug:

Dave
 
If the only thing that allowed me to beat someone is I had access to better equipment than they did, then I wouldn't take any pride in the win.

I'd prefer it if we both had access to the same tools, and the guy who shoots better wins.
Then there can be no question or excuses.

Why be mad at your teammate? Let's be real, a slightly better bridge was only 5% of that 'perfect safety'. The other 95% was your opponent. So if you're gonna get mad at anyone, get mad at him.

Or - don't worry about what your opponent does at the table, as long as it's legal, and just worry about what you do when it's your turn.

So if the guy that cannot afford, or that his wife won't let him buy, I should let him shoot with my LD shaft too ? No, the bridge helped him 90%...he would NOT have made that safety without the good bridge. It was a tough shot that he just could not do without a top notch bridge... and "he" put himself in the postion, it was his own leave that left him there... and my teammate should "bail" him out?

I figured if the guy does not care enough about his own equipment, why should anyone else. I would NEVER let someone use it during a match.

I play softball, and we have use $300 Demarini bats, but the team we are playing is NOT gonna ever use them no matter what shit equip they show up with :)
 
I would like to say yes I would help. However he didn't have the equiptment that you were wise enough to be prepared to have on hand. So its his fault. For example if you have a shitty house cue and your opponent has a top of the line Tonkin Cue, do you think he would let you borrow it cos you had a crap cue? I am a nice guy I may be inclined to still let him use it so I could say I beat the guy fair and square without any "Well if I only had a bridge I would have won" Maybe it would make it more of a legit win. JMO

We didn't get to play last time you were here... but I'll tell you what, I will give you a good bridge, my Russian magic chalk and the breaks :)
 
How about if it was reversed? Your at his house, pick up bridge and it comes loose and you foul...Would you be pissed if someone didn't tell you the house bridge is defective and you lose game because of it??
 
OK, playing in league last night. It's a tough league, with 16 teams, and cash payouts. It is a "house league" that is sanctioned by ACS.

We are in 4th place, playing the 3rd place team, about mid season.

So, the other team is full of A players and a couple of strong B players, like most of the teams at the top.

I'm playing one of their top guys, and after his first shot, the cb gets right next to an object ball, so know he was to jack way up, but can't reach it... then begins looking for the bridge.

And I smile, cause I know the house bridge when turned sideways really suck as the cue slips around. Well, when he finds the house cue starts to realize it sucks, my teammate chirps up and offers him his "moose head" bridge to shoot the shot and he shoots a perfect safety on me.

I give me teamate a look like "wtf" dude. And when I start examing the table I ask tell him the guy might need some chalk too, and if you don't mind if he uses your break cue in his next game.... kinda laughing about it, but a little pissed.

After the match my teammate tells me it is the classy thing to do....

I tell him it is NOT. Calling your own foul would be classy, helping him find the house bridge would be classy, or picking up the chalk that dropped from his pocket might be classy. OK, I still won the game and most likely why I laughed it off afterwards... but c'mon ??

Heck, I have a pro-adjustabridge but it is ONLY available to my team mates.... Just like my break stick... anyone can use it IF they are on my team....

So, the question is would you give your personal bridge to a guy you were playing in a competitive league ? Or just let him use the house bridge knowing the house bridge sucks... What say fellow AZB'ers ??



Thats funny. I have a hager cue extender. I was playing against a guy in a tourny and he asked me if he could use it. I declined. Your situation is a little different but a bridge is basically another way of extending your cue if you think about it.
 
How about if it was reversed? Your at his house, pick up bridge and it comes loose and you foul...Would you be pissed if someone didn't tell you the house bridge is defective and you lose game because of it??

Ok, the bridge is NOT defective it is just "cheap", which means not very good. Also, player put himself in the spot with his own bad leave..

This team has been shooting her for at least 2 years, and they are mostly "A" players. He knew the bridge, hell, he picked it up and tried to use it and realized he would NOT be able to make a great shot with it but my teammate interrupted with his bridge offering...
 
People- even teammates, BFFs, and spouses- need to stay out of other people's games.

That said, I am more than likely going to lend my bridgehead to an opponent. I will probably even offer, unsolicited, if I see they're struggling.

But that's on me. In my game.

And no, they can't use my break cue. I don't like people even looking at my cues.
 
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The issue isn't you, your opponent or any of us: it's your teammate.

Since he was not one of the players or a referee, he should not have injected himself into the game in any way. But some people are just naturally courteous and helpful and forget about the rules when they see someone in need.

Clearly, he's not an Illinois state employee.
 
Sportsmanship

I've had guys loose tips in the middle of a game and not only let him change cues, but got a cue from my office in the bar, so he wouldn't need to shoot with a house stick. I've never looked at the competition of a pool game as the end all. I call fouls on myself and any other infraction. I know that's not the same as lending equipment, but I don't want to win that way. That's just me, and I have had teammates PO'd at me for that attitude. But I'm 46 and retired, so I've already won my match. Brian.
 
So Person A and Person B have agreed to a duel in which they can use the pistols supplied by a third-party or use their own. Both shooters KNOW going in that the pistols supplied by the third party will be of marginal quality at best. When they walk off their paces and turn, Shooter A tries to fire but his (third-party supplied) weapon jams. Shooter B's second jumps up and says, "Hold fire!! Here you go, Shooter A. Use my weapon instead!"

Who on this forum, assuming they survived, wouldn't want to put the second in his/her sights immediately afterward? (unless, of course, you're Shooter A?)

Let the opposing player look to his teammates if he wants to borrow equipment, IMHO. As another poster has noted, if the opponent neglected to buy or bring a personal cue and the venue has piss poor house cues, would anyone feel constrained to lend their opponent a cue? I think not.

Edit: Oops! I see that a1712 has already answered in the affirmative. You're a good man, Charlie Brown! ;)

BTW, I always knew you were a REAL nice guy, Fred. :)
 
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If I was playing head-on, I would probably lend him the bridge.

...on a team, no way...I have 4 team mates I'm responsible to.
...unless my whole team over ruled me
 
So Person A and Person B have agreed to a duel in which they can use the pistols supplied by a third-party or use their own. Both shooters KNOW going in that the pistols supplied by the third party will be of marginal quality at best. When they walk off their paces and turn, Shooter A tries to fire but his (third-party supplied) weapon jams. Shooter B's second jumps up and says, "Hold fire!! Here you go, Shooter A. Use my weapon instead!"

Who on this forum, assuming they survived, wouldn't want to put the second in his/her sights immediately afterward? (unless, of course, you're Shooter A?)

Of course the difference is one situation is life-and-death while the other situation is a game. I tend to act differently in those two situations.

Dave
 
First off, I wouldn't carry my own bridge.

If I did, I would certainly let my opponent use it...or my break cue (oops, don't carry one of those either).

Under no circumstances may another man use:

1. My underwear
2. My girlfriend
3. My bar of soap

You can HAVE any one of the three (or all three), I just don't want it back when you are done.

Everything else is pretty open for negotiation.

dld

What if the person used #3 on #1 or #2 when they were done with it?

Back on topic... I can't believe that out of an entire team of A and B players, that play in a league, that none of them had a bridge head available. While I probably would of let them use mine, part of me feels that it is their own responsibility to bring whatever gear they might need.
 
Considering I used my opponents break cue for the whole set last time. I'm sure I would. Karma baby! :grin:
 
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