Never heard of location of ball to be anything to negotiate outside of playing begginers and bar bangers. You may as well argue about what ball numbers are "stripes". Or about no rail contact after a hit.
Important One Pocket Rule Dispute
- Thread starter ChrisBanks
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Never heard of location of ball to be anything to negotiate outside of playing begginers and bar bangers. You may as well argue about what ball numbers are "stripes". Or about no rail contact after a hit.
That always seemed wrong to me.
ChrisBanks
Banned
Why so much violence and hate?
ChrisBanks
Banned
I know you can be a little nicer than that.
Oh did you think I wasn't talking about myself?
Banks
Banned
Because you come off as a nit-picking dbag, that's why.
I'm not the violent type. I'd just tell you to go **** yourself. It would be that other half of the bar that you'd have to worry about being violent. Quit coming off as a hole and people won't treat you like one. It's pretty simple really.
You're really making yourself a target for anybody who would want to pick a fight, airbarrel or anything else. I don't think many would have a problem with it if it were done to you, from the way you present yourself here. They may ask, though, "Was airbarreling forbidden when you started the match?" If it wasn't, then maybe it was your fault.
I'm not the violent type. I'd just tell you to go **** yourself. It would be that other half of the bar that you'd have to worry about being violent. Quit coming off as a hole and people won't treat you like one. It's pretty simple really.
You're really making yourself a target for anybody who would want to pick a fight, airbarrel or anything else. I don't think many would have a problem with it if it were done to you, from the way you present yourself here. They may ask, though, "Was airbarreling forbidden when you started the match?" If it wasn't, then maybe it was your fault.
Maybe the last line will help:
1.5 Cue Ball in Hand
When the cue ball is in hand, the shooter may place the cue ball anywhere on the playing surface (see 8.1 Parts of the Table) and may continue to move the cue ball until he executes a shot. (See definition 8.2 Shot.) Players may use any part of the cue stick to move the cue ball, including the tip, but not with a forward stroke motion. In some games and for most break shots, placement of the cue ball may be restricted to the area behind the head string depending on the rules of the game, and then 6.10 Bad Cue Ball Placement and 6.11 Bad Play from Behind the Head String may apply.
When the shooter has the cue ball in hand behind the head string and all the legal object balls are behind the head string, he may request the legal object ball nearest the head string to be spotted. If two or more balls are equal distance from the head string, the shooter may designate which of the equidistant balls is to be spotted. An object ball that rests exactly on the head string is playable.
ChrisBanks
Banned
Because you come off as a nit-picking dbag, that's why.
I'm not the violent type. I'd just tell you to go **** yourself. It would be that other half of the bar that you'd have to worry about being violent. Quit coming off as a hole and people won't treat you like one. It's pretty simple really.
You're really making yourself a target for anybody who would want to pick a fight, airbarrel or anything else. I don't think many would have a problem with it if it were done to you, from the way you present yourself here. They may ask, though, "Was airbarreling forbidden when you started the match?" If it wasn't, then maybe it was your fault.
It's all in good fun Banks. You're acting like we're in a courtroom here.
You consistently get a poor reaction while others do not ... think about why. IMO it has NOTHING to do with how Banks acts, rather it has everything about how your threads come across. I understand that folks have a hard time being honest with themselves, but just look at the evidence that surrounds you.
IMO the rule is very basic and I would wonder about anyone who argues it. Of course I am an anal rule-book reader/rereader so that may factor into my opinions :thumbup:
Dave
I guess our experiences are different then. Mine is drawn from having played 1pocket in rooms all over the country the last 10 years or so. Go figure.
Lou Figueroa
They may ask, though, "Was airbarreling forbidden when you started the match?" If it wasn't, then maybe it was your fault.
Bwahahahaha!!!
Honestly that's one of the things I'd never think to discuss beforehand. Thought everyone understood the base of the ball theory. Lou... you must have a lot of lawyers matching up there, the base of the ball thing comes up in the pre-match conversations??
Come to think of it, never heard anyone argue about the sleeper rule either... owed balls get spotted as soon as someone realizes they forgot, unless someone wants to pretend like they got dementia and claim they don't remember owing anything.
If someone played a "Sliver-past-the-headstring" ball on me, I'd wait until they made a kick or bank and then say "sorry, my understanding is that banks and kicks must be called." and then spot their ball and take my shot. Maybe make it ball-in-hand since we're clearly just making shit up as we go anyway.
Come to think of it, never heard anyone argue about the sleeper rule either... owed balls get spotted as soon as someone realizes they forgot, unless someone wants to pretend like they got dementia and claim they don't remember owing anything.
If someone played a "Sliver-past-the-headstring" ball on me, I'd wait until they made a kick or bank and then say "sorry, my understanding is that banks and kicks must be called." and then spot their ball and take my shot. Maybe make it ball-in-hand since we're clearly just making shit up as we go anyway.
Maybe help out by showing folks that there are standard rules :
http://www.playbca.com/portals/0/rules/1Pocket.pdf
The position of balls is in the General Rules :
http://www.playbca.com/portals/0/rules/general.pdf
Use standard rules and then you don't have to waste time negotiating set rules.
Dave
I've had it come up a few times pre-match. Some people like to play the entire ball must be out and don't play by the base of the ball. It isn't all that uncommon, though I like to play by the base of the ball rule. I would agree that if it didn't come up beforehand it should be played base of the ball.
In my experience, every pool hall is different. Also don't forget that, if not discussed beforehand, and the issue arises at a critical juncture, you've basically given the other guy an out, or at least the basis for a semi-legitimate argument. The whole point is to try and eliminate grounds for dispute.
Lou Figueroa
Chris my friend, don't think you understand what these posters are telling you. Asking what seem to be innocent questions only to suggest "it's all in good fun" when people tell you you're nuts? The greatest percentage of your fellow posters don't know you. Most will never have the opportunity to meet you. They will only know you from what you post. I enjoy the banter. I enjoy the somewhat "off center" questions you ask of your fellow posters. Truthfully, you're confusing me!
Lyn
Sure. I can just picture myself whipping out a set of rules, lol. Not happening. The problem is that everyone thinks their rules are the standard rules but every pool halls plays them a bit differently. Same with bar 8ball house rules.
Lou Figueroa
Too bad. Promoting standard rule sets is good for the game. Letting bars and halls negotiate rules fractures the game imo.
Dave