TOI in ACTION Earl Stickland vs CJ Wiley

CJ Wiley

CJ Wiley

ESPN WORLD OPEN CHAMPION
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Here is another match when I was using the Touch Of Inside. See if you can see how I use the TOUCH OF INSIDE and STUN the ball rather than SPIN the ball. If you're already using the TOI you will easily see what's "really" happening. Watch how the cue ball "floats" to position rather than spinning. This is the "tell tale" sign that someone is using TOI on you. :wink:

Seeing what a Pro Player is doing is like watching a professional magician to see how they're doing their "tricks". Remember, the greatest player of all time is even called "The Magician". :yeah:

EARL STICKLAND vs CJ WILEY
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The speed control using the TOI was really something. I also noticed a better look at the the "hammer" stroke you used on certain shots. Great match! BTW, your pm box is full.

Best,
Mike
 
you can always reach me cj@cjwiley.com

Mikjary said:
The speed control using the TOI was really something. I also noticed a better look at the the "hammer" stroke you used on certain shots. Great match! BTW, your pm box is full.

Best,
Mike
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It fills up every day with questions on these things, I need some more space. I saw you messaged me earlier, you can always reach me cj@cjwiley.com or on Face Book https://www.facebook.com/CJ.WILEY7
 
The video is long, can you tell us exactly at what second/shot did you use the touch of inside, maybe I know the shot but I don't know the term, I want to see it, thanks.
 
In '92' I "came off the road" and started playing tournaments.

asbani said:
The video is long, can you tell us exactly at what second/shot did you use the touch of inside, maybe I know the shot but I don't know the term, I want to see it, thanks.
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I use the Touch of Inside on all my shots, unless they're straight in, I have to curve the cue ball or change the angle after going to a rail.

There were a group of us road players that played this way and were very successful in the "high dollar gambling days". In '92' I "came off the road" and started playing tournaments. My style was unlike any of the other tournament players and got a lot of attention. I was ask over and over and would never reveal "why" my game was different.

Now that my gambling days are probably over I was urged to describe my system that I refer to as the "Touch Of Inside" Technique. I communicate with several players that are currently using it with positive results. My TOI Video is in the Post Production stage and will be out in the next couple of day. If you're serious about improving and learning a technique that's been proven effective I would recommend taking a look at it.

You can read more about it in the Aiming section under John S. and Corey D. or in "Wrists, Hidden Power Stylistic or "Just Along For the Ride". (in the main Forum). 'The Game is the Teacher'

Here's another tournament where they first saw me using the TOI:

Steve Mizerak vs CJ Wiley
 
Thanks for the link CJ.

Yeah, TOI is clearly shown in your play. I'm sure Earl saw it and said to himself "what the heck is he doing"

What I am practicing on now is playing position to the next ball so that I can continue using TOI. Coming from the "spin your cue ball where you want it to go" this has been a challenge and at the same time a lot of fun.

I was watching your stroke and it appeared to me that you was sliding the cue ball to the OB contact point thus insuring an accelerating stroke.

Waiting for the TOI video.

Thanks for all that you share.

John
 
CJ Wiley said:
Here is another match when I was using the Touch Of Inside. See if you can see how I use the TOUCH OF INSIDE and STUN the ball rather than SPIN the ball. If you're already using the TOI you will easily see what's "really" happening. Watch how the cue ball "floats" to position rather than spinning. This is the "tell tale" sign that someone is using TOI on you. :wink:

Seeing what a Pro Player is doing is like watching a professional magician to see how they're doing their "tricks". Remember, the greatest player of all time is even called "The Magician". :yeah:

EARL STICKLAND vs CJ WILEY
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Hey CJ,
Please don't laugh at me, but I call that my emergency brake shot. So do I need to change the name of the shot to TOI? Keep on with the keep on, Mr. CJ, I like it. Thanks.
Many Regards,
Lock N Load.
 
CJ Wiley said:
I use the Touch of Inside on all my shots, unless they're straight in, I have to curve the cue ball or change the angle after going to a rail.



Here's another tournament where they first saw me using the TOI:

Steve Mizerak vs CJ Wiley
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Strong, Strong, Strong!

And how about the great Steve Mizerak playing as world class, spotting a huge lead and coming back to go hill/hill!,,

Freddie <~~~ privileged
 
Cornerman said:
Strong, Strong, Strong!

And how about the great Steve Mizerak playing as world class, spotting a huge lead and coming back to go hill/hill!,,

Freddie <~~~ privileged
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Hey Cornerman,
<----------- Freddie you said it correctly, you are privileged!!! AZB is the place to be.......
He, he, he!
Many Regards,
Lock N Load.
 
CJ Wiley said:
Here is another match when I was using the Touch Of Inside. See if you can see how I use the TOUCH OF INSIDE and STUN the ball rather than SPIN the ball. If you're already using the TOI you will easily see what's "really" happening. Watch how the cue ball "floats" to position rather than spinning. This is the "tell tale" sign that someone is using TOI on you. :wink:

Seeing what a Pro Player is doing is like watching a professional magician to see how they're doing their "tricks". Remember, the greatest player of all time is even called "The Magician". :yeah:

EARL STICKLAND vs CJ WILEY
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Like at 13:27 shooting the 7 ball?
 
Today I play for 4 hours using TOI, it works, the potting is so fun now. Near future I'll start to work on geting position using TOI.
Thanks Mr. Wiley.
 
On a lot of shots, TOI prevents the cueball from doing what I call "run-on" which often occurs when using outside spin. The outside spin often helps the cue ball pick up unneeded speed. I've seen even the most talented pool players sometimes over-run their position because of outside spin. I will always try to utilize whatever spin is required for the shot but I see the benefits to minimizing the cue ball travel using TOI.

Last summer, June actually, during the Tunica, MS Southern Classic, a pro player from the UK was showing me the benefits of TOI although the acronym wasn't used. I guess TOI is a CJ first.

The POOL PIPELINE has communicated to me that this year's Southern Classic will be unparalleled and that a REALLY BIG SURPRISE is scheduled in the making.

I'm not sure when CJ first started posting about TOI on the forums but I'm also curious about when he first started using it. I may have missed where he posted that piece of information.
 
JoeyA said:
On a lot of shots, TOI prevents the cueball from doing what I call "run-on" which often occurs when using outside spin. The outside spin often helps the cue ball pick up unneeded speed. I've seen even the most talented pool players sometimes over-run their position because of outside spin. I will always try to utilize whatever spin is required for the shot but I see the benefits to minimizing the cue ball travel using TOI.

Last summer, June actually, during the Tunica, MS Southern Classic, a pro player from the UK was showing me the benefits of TOI although the acronym wasn't used. I guess TOI is a CJ first.

The POOL PIPELINE has communicated to me that this year's Southern Classic will be unparalleled and that a REALLY BIG SURPRISE is scheduled in the making.

I'm not sure when CJ first started posting about TOI on the forums but I'm also curious about when he first started using it. I may have missed where he posted that piece of information.
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This might help...http://forums.azbilliards.com/showpost.php?p=3861196&postcount=1007

Best,
Mike
 
C.J., great video. Question, did you always play with your wrist in that forward position or did you learn it from an outside source? BTW, i first saw you play in Tulsa around 1990. You played Bob Baldwin and i believe Dick L. also at the Billiard Palace.
 
FIRST come down on your TOI Spot and then PIVOT your TIP to the center.

Neil said:
Like at 13:27 shooting the 7 ball?
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You can see it better in the 8 and 9 of that rack. Sometimes that angle of the shot is misleading, and remember, if you do have to put outside on a shot FIRST come down on your TOI Spot and then PIVOT your TIP to the center.

This automatically cuts your outside in half and puts you in the perfect position to do it without taking the risk of deflecting it INTO the object ball.

This is what I seem many players do, especially under pressure is to cue the ball with outside, then deflect it INTO the object ball - This is a HUGE mistake and what many champions consider (dogging it)...I'm ok with overcutting a ball, but NEVER undercutting it. 'The Game is the Teacher'
 
At some point you can "tailor make" your own style of TOI, HOWEVER......

One Pocket John said:
Thanks for the link CJ.

Yeah, TOI is clearly shown in your play. I'm sure Earl saw it and said to himself "what the heck is he doing"

What I am practicing on now is playing position to the next ball so that I can continue using TOI. Coming from the "spin your cue ball where you want it to go" this has been a challenge and at the same time a lot of fun.

I was watching your stroke and it appeared to me that you was sliding the cue ball to the OB contact point thus insuring an accelerating stroke.

Waiting for the TOI video.

Thanks for all that you share.

John
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Yes, Earl is a brilliant pool player and "throws" all his shots into the "Pocket Zone" as I do. He uses different types of spins and everyone can, however to learn this, from my experience you MUST use the TOI on EVERY SHOT.

At some point you can "tailor make" your own style of TOI, HOWEVER, I have discovered how to teach this powerful technique and there's few exceptions if you want to learn it as quickly and effortlessly as possible. I know you understand this, John, just confirming it for those that are new to the TOI Technique and want to understand the benefits ASAP.

We're 75% done with the TOI Video Post Production and Editing. This is something special and I'm looking forward to sharing this technique for the first time. Many champions have used this technique, however, this is the first time it's been taught in vivid detail. 'The Game is the Teacher'
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Ppv

CJ,

Is the forthcoming DVD the same as the PPV video on your web site?

Scott
 
you MUST hit the cue ball the SAME every time to develop this "Feel For the Pocket".

AlexandruM said:
Today I play for 4 hours using TOI, it works, the potting is so fun now. Near future I'll start to work on geting position using TOI.
Thanks Mr. Wiley.
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You're getting the experience you need, AlexandruM. The first thing everyone, from my experience, must do is to use TOI on EVERY SHOT. This teaches you more in 3 hours than you can possibly imagine without the experience (this sounds presumptuous, however I firmly believe it).

In the TOI Video I show and describe how the positioning works and why it gives you more cue ball control and more natural angles (than spinning the cue ball).

I'll give you hint as to why this is true:

If you spin the cue ball to change the angle after contact you are limited in how much you can alter that natural path. If you use the TOI and the 3Part Pocket System (they go hand in hand) you will develop a "fine tuned" FEEL for the pocket. Using the different parts of the pocket to change/alter the natural path (after contact) of the cue ball is superior to using spin to do it.

This is one of the most overlooked and misunderstood area {of pool} for the beginner/intermediate and even advanced players. They are taking the "easy way" by spinning their cue ball and getting into a bad habit INSTEAD of developing the "3Part Feel" for the pocket and be able to "cheat" the pocket like a Champion Player does.

Think about this last paragraph - I'm telling you something powerful, however, you still have to experience it and train yourself to do it. I gave a gentleman a 2 hour lesson last night and he called me earlier all excited. He said "I got it, I'm making everything now," I told him "don't tell anyone or it will go away," ....I was kidding of course, it makes it all worth while to see someone having so much fun playing pool - that's how the Game is supposed to be. 'The Game IS the Teacher'

This is where the TOI Technique comes in and I believe, (from my experience of thousands of matches against the greatest players) that you MUST hit the cue ball the SAME every time to develop this "Feel For the Pocket". 'The Game is the Teacher'
 
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