TOI in ACTION Earl Stickland vs CJ Wiley

[CJ Wiley]

daily doses of a high grade fish oil makes a big difference.

Sir,

Look at the shot that you referenced & your comment to go along with it. If you were not being sacastic & I misunderstood your meaning then I apologize. Even though it would seem to be an honest mistake given your past expressions of your oinions on CJ's techniques in other threads. If so, all you had to do was politely say that I was mistaken.

If you reference my statements I first said to CJ, "I'm not sure but I think Neil was being sarcastic". In the second reference, I said, "I'm fairly certain Neil was being sacastic". 'Fairly certain' does not mean that I am 'surely certain'. I was merely pointing out to CJ the possibility that what he seemed to be taking literally might be sarcasm. If I was wrong, all you had to do was politely say so, which you still have not done.

My offer to you to shake hands & bury the hatchet as I said not in each other's back was sincere & well intended. Since this is your first reference to that offer with no other response I can only assume that you have decided to reject it.

You, Sir seem to have delusions of grandure where you think everyone MUST show you some form of honor & respect. From our first encounter, you lost any common courtesy of such. True Honor & Respect are earned & you Sir have not earned mine. You Sir have given me no reason to extend such to you as is evidenced by the quoted post above where you again try to suggest untruths as facts with your presumption of omniscience, believing that you can read my mind & know my intentions.

I have no need, desire, or intention to 'run you down'. I am sure there are a number of people who know you & respect you & that is all well & good. However, I do not know you any more than you know me. However, you seem to believe that you have the power of omniscience & know everyones' intentions & can read everyone's minds.

I do not know your age, but might I kindly suggest that you sit down with a family member or friend & discuss if maybe you should schedule a visit with a doctor.

I just lost a friend this day that was only 64 years old. He died in his sleep with no real outward signs of any medical problems other than a bit of forgetfulness. He kept puttting off going to the doctor untll his medicare kicked in next month.

My offer to you still stands, but would require an attitude adjustment on your part for it to work. I extended the offer because you had seemed to have become more reasonable of late. You now seem to possibly be suffering from some form of bipolar disorder.

All of my statements above are well intended. I sincerely hope that you take them as such. Perhaps they will reach you when you are in a good mood & more reasonable.

Best Wishes to You &

Sorry for your loss, Rick, the bipolar disorder is more common than many people "real eyes"....I'm convinced that daily doses of a high grade fish oil makes a big difference.

I know this sounds "too good to be true," however, there's reason it's called "Brain Food" and certainly worth a try to someone who is suffering.

 

[CJ Wiley]

I'm teaching the TOI and HammerStroke because it's tried and tested to "get the cash"

C.J., great video. Question, did you always play with your wrist in that forward position or did you learn it from an outside source? BTW, i first saw you play in Tulsa around 1990. You played Bob Baldwin and i believe Dick L. also at the Billiard Palace.

I remember playing Bob and Tulsa was a great "action city" back then. "Fat Randy" was a character.

I put my wrist more in a follow though position and I went over this in detail in the WRIST SECTION if you want to look back at this thread in the Main Forum. I pointed out how the wrists actually work in my stoke and how I use a HAMMER to train my hand/wrist/forearm to "fine tune" my stroke.

After the TOI Video I'm going to do one just on the stroke. People actually thought the wrist worked the opposite of what it really does (in my stroke).

Here's another video that was sent to me earlier. It's the first part of the match with Earl. I do the techniques quite visibly in these matches. I'm not regurgitating techniques that "look good on paper," anyone can do that.

I'm teaching the TOI and HammerStroke because it's tried and tested to "get the cash". (it's not for everyone, however, everyone can learn always learn "something")

This Game is simple at the highest levels, and it's more about eliminating the things that don't work......the things that make someone fidget....or at least undecided before they shoot. Check out this video and let me know what you think and go back and check out Wrists - A Hidden Power Catylist, or "Just Along For the Ride" ....it's got a LOT of great information.

EARL STICKLAND vs CJ Wiley

 

[ENGLISH!]

Sorry for your loss, Rick, the bipolar disorder is more common than many people "real eyes"....I'm convinced that daily doses of a high grade fish oil makes a big difference.

I know this sounds "too good to be true," however, there's reason it's called "Brain Food" and certainly worth a try to someone who is suffering.

Thanks CJ.

My friend only picked up a cue 5 years ago. His journey 'in pool' may be over but he had a good ride for those 5 years.

Thanks again, Best to You &

 

[Mikjary]

Thanks CJ.

My friend only picked up a cue 5 years ago. His journey 'in pool' may be over but he had a good ride for those 5 years.

Thanks again, Best to You &

Sorry to hear about your friend. My condolences to his family.

Best,
Mike

 

[Spider1]

I don't care if he's using these threads to sell a DVD. They are interesting and always seem to start some interesting conversation. Heck, people use this forum to hawk their dominant eye lessons, myriad aiming systems, and even their abilities as a table mechanic, so why can't we have a pro like CJ post things without being attacked or trolled? This is why we can't have nice things.


CJ: I enjoy these threads a lot, please keep posting them and thank you!

 

[Koop]

i don't care if he's using these threads to sell a dvd. They are interesting and always seem to start some interesting conversation. Heck, people use this forum to hawk their dominant eye lessons, myriad aiming systems, and even their abilities as a table mechanic, so why can't we have a pro like cj post things without being attacked or trolled? This is why we can't have nice things.


Cj: I enjoy these threads a lot, please keep posting them and thank you!

^^^^ this ^^^^

 

[JoeyA]

Most of us enjoy CJ's posts and threads.

There are a few people on this forum who apparently feel threatened by his presence, his teachings and hound him at every turn. I'm not one of them.

It's no wonder that the pro players take their business elsewhere. The little cliques that regularly chase interesting posters away are at work once again. It's always the same people trying to run this forum. This clique regularly uses what I call a Forum Tag-Team approach but don't seem able to pin CJ to the mat.

CJ regularly flicks the fleas off using a SECRET martial arts system using a finger/wrist/hand action only, sometimes referred to as Jujutsu. This is a form of self-defense whereby the defender manipulates the aggressor's force against themselves.

 

[One Pocket John]

Most of us enjoy CJ's posts and threads.

There are a few people on this forum who apparently feel threatened by his presence, his teachings and hound him at every turn. I'm not one of them.

It's no wonder that the pro players take their business elsewhere. The little cliques that regularly chase interesting posters away are at work once again. It's always the same people trying to run this forum. This clique regularly uses what I call a Forum Tag-Team approach but don't seem able to pin CJ to the mat.

CJ regularly flicks the fleas off using a SECRET martial arts system using a finger/wrist/hand action only, sometimes referred to as Jujutsu. This is a form of self-defense whereby the defender manipulates the aggressor's force against themselves.

In bold DeepSkyBlue. This is a good one. Should be part of your signature.

John

 

[CJ Wiley]

This Game is "The World's Greatest Game" and I'm grateful to be a student.

I don't care if he's using these threads to sell a DVD. They are interesting and always seem to start some interesting conversation. Heck, people use this forum to hawk their dominant eye lessons, myriad aiming systems, and even their abilities as a table mechanic, so why can't we have a pro like CJ post things without being attacked or trolled? This is why we can't have nice things.


CJ: I enjoy these threads a lot, please keep posting them and thank you!

I enjoy teaching, and learning about this Game, and the players that play it. Thanks, "Spider1" for taking the time to say that, and if I'm talking too much about the "Touch OF Inside," it's because I'm that excited about it. This is my greatest contribution back to "The Game," the game that's given me so much. I owe it a debt of gratitude and made {it} a deal that I would commit 3 years of my life, if the Game would show me what to do and the The Game showed me {in detail this time} the TOI.

You see this would never be happening if I hadn't taken 10 years off and away from the Game. When I came back I had literally forgot how I used to play and had to attempt to "put the pieces back together," and it was much like assembling a jig saw puzzle. The problem was there were pieces missing, and I could not figure out what they were.

I tried to play the "conventional" method and even got 9th in my first tournament, the US OPEN. My play still wasn't up to my expectations and the most important thing was - IT WASN'T FUN. I was having to think about every shot and started experimenting with my "aiming," my grip, my stroke, etc. I'm sure many of you can relate to what I'm saying, it was not a "fun Game" anymore.

Then, I started posting on this Forum (just for fun, a friend told me the way they treated pros and it made me curious), and talking about my techniques and systems. I started talking about my Touch OF Inside system and how it "maximized margin of error," and gave me a better FEEL for the pocket. As I talked and explained more and more I started playing and researching more and more.

Then, one day the technique started opening up and I 'Real Eyesed" there was much more to it than I ever dreamed. The key was doing it EVERY TIME, and as I told players to do this I MADE myself do it and then it hit me. This is a technique that does everything required to play championship pool. I used to do it without thinking because, quite frankly I would NEVER give my secret to playing away.

This technique did 3 things for me, it let me hit shots the same speed, created the angles and I was able to hit the same side of the cue ball {most}every time. That was the reason, when you watch my videos (like this one with Earl) it appears I knew immediately what to do and didn't appear to have to "think" I just played like it was 2nd nature. You see it was second nature, because the 1st nature HAD TO BE using the Touch OF Inside. This is certainly the KEY. :thumbup:

When I was gambling there is NO WAY I wanted other players to understand TOI because they would use it against me and there were already players using similar versions. The players that use any TOI version I can spot RIGHT AWAY and I know immediately they are going to be tough to beat. Now I understand the TOI Technique better than I've every understood it before and can teach it to anyone.

The first 3 hours is up to the individual, if you're not willing to put 3 hours into JUST using TOI, then I'm not going to be able to help. One thing the TOI system of play DOESN'T do is give you the passion to try it.

HOWEVER, once you put in the 3 hours I will assure you the passion for the Game will return and you will be like a child again, just wanted to hit balls and play because it's once again FUN. This Game is "The World's Greatest Game" and I'm grateful to be a student. 'THE GAME IS THE TEACHER' CJ Wiley

 

[Houstoer]

I enjoy teaching, and learning about this Game, and the players that play it. Thanks, "Spider1" for taking the time to say that, and if I'm talking too much about the "Touch OF Inside," it's because I'm that excited about it. This is my greatest contribution back to "The Game," the game that's given me so much. I owe it a debt of gratitude and made {it} a deal that I would commit 3 years of my life, if the Game would show me what to do and the The Game showed me the TOI.

You see this would never be happening if I hadn't taken 10 years off and away from the Game. When I came back I had literally forgot how I used to play and had to attempt to "put the pieces back together," and it was much like assembling a jig saw puzzle. The problem was there was a piece missing and I could not figure out what it was.

I tried to play the "conventional" method and even got 9th in my first tournament, the US OPEN. My play still wasn't up to my expectations and the most important thing was - IT WASN'T FUN. I was having to think about every shot and started experimenting with my "aiming," my grip, my stroke, etc. I'm sure many of you can relate to what I'm saying, it was not a "fun Game" anymore.

Then, I started posting on this Forum (just for fun, a friend told me the way they treated pros and it made me curious), and talking about my techniques and systems. I started talking about my Touch OF Inside system and how it "maximized margin of error," and gave me a better FEEL for the pocket. As I talked and explained more and more I started playing and researching more and more.

Then, one day the technique started opening up and I 'Real Eyesed" there was much more to it than I ever dreamed. The key was doing it EVERY TIME, and as I told players to do this I MADE myself do it and then it hit me. This is a technique that does everything required to play championship pool. I used to do it without thinking because, quite frankly I would NEVER give my secret to playing away.

This technique did 3 things for me, it let me hit shots the same speed, created the angles and I was able to hit the same side of the cue ball {most}every time. That was the reason, when you watch my videos (like this one with Earl) it appears I knew immediately what to do and didn't appear to have to "think" I just played like it was 2nd nature. You see it was second nature, because the 1st nature HAD TO BE using the Touch OF Inside. This is certainly the KEY. :thumbup:

When I was gambling there is NO WAY I wanted other players to understand TOI because they would use it against me and there were already players using similar versions. The players that use any TOI version I can spot RIGHT AWAY and I know immediately they are going to be tough to beat. Now I understand the TOI Technique better than I've every understood it before and can teach it to anyone.

The first 3 hours is up to the individual, if you're not willing to put 3 hours into JUST using TOI, then I'm not going to be able to help. One thing the TOI system of play DOESN'T do is give you the passion to try it.

HOWEVER, once you put in the 3 hours I will assure you the passion for the Game will return and you will be like a child again, just wanted to hit balls and play because it's once again FUN. This Game is "The World's Greatest Game" and I'm grateful to be a student. 'THE GAME IS THE TEACHER' CJ Wiley

Thanks for posting on here CJ. I enjoy reading your posts and at least trying what you are trying to say. At the risk of creating world war 3 with the naysayers can I ask if I am currently using CTE and lining up the shot with a touch of inside would that also work? I really like the CTE alignment and don't think I want to switch that but would be interested in hearing your opinions on how maybe or maybe not these two "systems" can we used in conjuction.... thanks again

 

[Neil]

Most of us enjoy CJ's posts and threads.

There are a few people on this forum who apparently feel threatened by his presence, his teachings and hound him at every turn. I'm not one of them.

It's no wonder that the pro players take their business elsewhere. The little cliques that regularly chase interesting posters away are at work once again. It's always the same people trying to run this forum. This clique regularly uses what I call a Forum Tag-Team approach but don't seem able to pin CJ to the mat.

CJ regularly flicks the fleas off using a SECRET martial arts system using a finger/wrist/hand action only, sometimes referred to as Jujutsu. This is a form of self-defense whereby the defender manipulates the aggressor's force against themselves.

Since you stated it, just who are in this "clique" that are trying to chase pro posters away? And, who is trying to "run this forum"?

 

[Patrick Johnson]

JoeyA:
The little cliques that regularly suck up to anybody with a recognizable name are at work once again.

Yep.

pj
chgo

 

[lfigueroa]

Since you stated it, just who are in this "clique" that are trying to chase pro posters away? And, who is trying to "run this forum"?

lol, wait a minute... I thought the bad guys were muzzled. Now they're amokked running roughshod on pro pool players?!?

Somebody needs to: GET THEIR STORY STRAIGHT.

Lou Figueroa
so confuzed

 

[TheThaiger]

Last summer, June actually, during the Tunica, MS Southern Classic, a pro player from the UK was showing me the benefits of TOI although the acronym wasn't used. I guess TOI is a CJ first.

Which English pro?

 

[PoolSharkAllen]

Since you stated it, just who are in this "clique" that are trying to chase pro posters away? And, who is trying to "run this forum"?

Joey, please tell us about the clique you have in the aiming forums.

 

[lfigueroa]

Joey, please tell us about the clique you have in the aiming forums.

Certainly you don't mean the group that can be counted on to pull up in the AZ Clown Car and pig pile on anyone who dares to doubt the wonderfulness of CTE?

Lou Figueroa
couldn't be
dem guys

 

[One Pocket John]

Practiced for about 10 hours today to correct a stroke issue. During my practice I noticed that I was using TOI without thinking about it. First time. :smile: After over 100 hours of use.

I quit playing 10 years ago and like you CJ started right from the beginning, took each fundamental (one at a time) and started practicing. It has been a lot of work and has not been fun. But with your help the game is becoming more enjoyable. Don't get me wrong I by no means have ever played at your level but I did play at a level that was FUN.

I sure do hope it all comes back together for ya. Man, It would be nice to see someone dance around the table like you do.

I watched Turning Stone this last weekend, I cant figure out why these guys took so long in between shots to shoot. That cant be FUN more like WORK.

Anyway thanks for your guidance. Its being put to good use.

Later

John

 

[Luxury]

There is NO way CJ is leaving.

 

[1on1pooltournys]

I enjoy teaching, and learning about this Game, and the players that play it. Thanks, "Spider1" for taking the time to say that, and if I'm talking too much about the "Touch OF Inside," it's because I'm that excited about it. This is my greatest contribution back to "The Game," the game that's given me so much. I owe it a debt of gratitude and made {it} a deal that I would commit 3 years of my life, if the Game would show me what to do and the The Game showed me {in detail this time} the TOI.

You see this would never be happening if I hadn't taken 10 years off and away from the Game. When I came back I had literally forgot how I used to play and had to attempt to "put the pieces back together," and it was much like assembling a jig saw puzzle. The problem was there were pieces missing, and I could not figure out what they were.

I tried to play the "conventional" method and even got 9th in my first tournament, the US OPEN. My play still wasn't up to my expectations and the most important thing was - IT WASN'T FUN. I was having to think about every shot and started experimenting with my "aiming," my grip, my stroke, etc. I'm sure many of you can relate to what I'm saying, it was not a "fun Game" anymore.

Then, I started posting on this Forum (just for fun, a friend told me the way they treated pros and it made me curious), and talking about my techniques and systems. I started talking about my Touch OF Inside system and how it "maximized margin of error," and gave me a better FEEL for the pocket. As I talked and explained more and more I started playing and researching more and more.

Then, one day the technique started opening up and I 'Real Eyesed" there was much more to it than I ever dreamed. The key was doing it EVERY TIME, and as I told players to do this I MADE myself do it and then it hit me. This is a technique that does everything required to play championship pool. I used to do it without thinking because, quite frankly I would NEVER give my secret to playing away.

This technique did 3 things for me, it let me hit shots the same speed, created the angles and I was able to hit the same side of the cue ball {most}every time. That was the reason, when you watch my videos (like this one with Earl) it appears I knew immediately what to do and didn't appear to have to "think" I just played like it was 2nd nature. You see it was second nature, because the 1st nature HAD TO BE using the Touch OF Inside. This is certainly the KEY. :thumbup:

When I was gambling there is NO WAY I wanted other players to understand TOI because they would use it against me and there were already players using similar versions. The players that use any TOI version I can spot RIGHT AWAY and I know immediately they are going to be tough to beat. Now I understand the TOI Technique better than I've every understood it before and can teach it to anyone.

The first 3 hours is up to the individual, if you're not willing to put 3 hours into JUST using TOI, then I'm not going to be able to help. One thing the TOI system of play DOESN'T do is give you the passion to try it.

HOWEVER, once you put in the 3 hours I will assure you the passion for the Game will return and you will be like a child again, just wanted to hit balls and play because it's once again FUN. This Game is "The World's Greatest Game" and I'm grateful to be a student. 'THE GAME IS THE TEACHER' CJ Wiley

Nice post CJ! I have to say CJ told me about TOI awhile back before he ever started posting here. We spent some time around each other and I can verify 110% that he knows things about this game that most do not.

CJ is also an extremely generous person and has helped lots of people and players over the years. Anybody who thinks this is solely money motivated has no idea the type of fella he is.

Keep on keepin on bro!

 

[Blue Hog ridr]

Hey, can you guys tell me what TOI means. I'd appreciate it. Thanks.