Schon Cues with Micarta

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Found a Schon in pawn, single shaft with micarta ferrule. Does not have "schon" printed on shaft.

6 floating points, plain butt no inlays, only silver rings.

Anyone have a guess on which model this could be?
***UPDATE*** Confirmed Model SP-46 (Thanks to Big J & Palmercollector.com)

Would the shaft most likely be not original? Or were micarta ferrules an option?
 

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PickPocket said:
Found a Schon in pawn, single shaft with micarta ferrule. Does not have "schon" printed on shaft.

6 floating points, plain butt no inlays, only silver rings.

No pictures yet..

Anyone have a guess on which model this could be?

Would the shaft most likely be not original? Or were micarta ferrules an option?
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My old schons all have micarta, could be an R3
 
PickPocket said:
Thanks! Ill have to see if i can get some to post also.... they are wanting $500 and its well used. (Straight though).
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How do you know it's straight? Is there a pool table In the pawn shop to roll it on? You CAN'T roll it on a counter top.

Chris
 
Sight down it pointing the cue towards something dark. If it doesnt look dead straight, then for sure dont pay a premium.
 
cueaddicts said:
Sight down it pointing the cue towards something dark. If it doesnt look dead straight, then for sure dont pay a premium.
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This is exactly what I did... It's good to go.. if it isn't 100% it's dang close!

Either way I'd personally shoot with it!! :thumbup:
 
Just more info..

Having seen a few pictures.. I would like to add, that the "Schon" on the butt did have the older style logo, with the "S" that is noticeable different.

But if I remember right it DID NOT have sharp pointed inlays. (CNC I believe) so NOT from the R series correct? :frown:

I looked through all 3 Blue books yesterday, and couldn't find it.. some had the same features.. but not it.
 
pictures added

Went back tonight. This is what im talking about. The ring on the shaft is silver, rings on butt are bronze? I belive someone may have bought this shaft after the original. (Mosst likely due to the micarta ferrule).

So its in good shape. But very well loved! What value would this be around??
 
updated research..

I'm pretty sure this (Exact) cue was posted in another "Schon" thread..

Here are the pictures from that thread.

Unfortunatley the Member has not posted anything since 2010!! :confused:

But it also showed an additional shaft with it.. so this single shaft that just dosen't quite match must have been purchased at a later date. (who knows where the original shaft ended up) I'm not sure how this would effect the value...

Again.. calling on anyone with insight? :(
 

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I've had many older schon's that the ring work appears to be "yellowish" this is due to the finish issues. If a refinish was done they clean up. I've seen and had a few sp-46's and their asking price of $500 is high. The last one I sold was mint and after I had it refinished I soold it in the $500-$525 range with one shaft.
 
PickPocket said:
Went back tonight. This is what im talking about. The ring on the shaft is silver, rings on butt are bronze? I belive someone may have bought this shaft after the original. (Mosst likely due to the micarta ferrule).

So its in good shape. But very well loved! What value would this be around??
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Big J gave you some good advice.

Some Pawn shops are super high on cues, or anything else, if they smell
that you want it.

As to the ferrule - I know LOTS about the old Schon ferrule material:)
and I can tell you it looks right for a orig Schon shaft. Maybe they had
some left when this shaft was made, or maybe it is an older shaft.
Schon shafts are/were allegedly 'interchangerable'.

Free negotiating advice - and worth every penny of the cost:

You are at a big disadvantage because by now they think you are "hot"
for this cue.
Soooo, take a friend who knows enough about cues to be able to handle
it and look like he knows what he is doing. Do a dramatic inspection of
the cue. Walk off together and discuss the cue in obviously hushed terms.

Come back and line up 10 $20 bills on the counter saying something on
the order of - "I'll take it right now - for 200"

They most likely will scoff and decline. Lay down 2 more 20s and say
something like. "Last chance.".

If they don't accept the offer within 10 seconds - gather up your
money and walk out.

I doubt seriously they will let you get out the door.

ps: There are lots of nice Schons out there - see what a post in
Wanted-For-Sale brings.

Dale
 
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Big J said:
I've had many older schon's that the ring work appears to be "yellowish" this is due to the finish issues. If a refinish was done they clean up. I've seen and had a few sp-46's and their asking price of $500 is high. The last one I sold was mint and after I had it refinished I soold it in the $500-$525 range with one shaft.
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Great advice. On the rings, they either turn greenish if the finish pulls away from the ring and air gets in there causing oxidation on the ring or they can look a little like they are brass (yellowish)....this is caused by a reaction between the chemicals in the finish at the surface of the ring. You sometimes see the later, but not too often. More often you see the finish breaking loose on heavily played cues and they're starting to oxidize (greenish).

Too make it worth your while as a pawn shop find, anything less than $300 would be a pretty solid buy imo. The shafts look to be pretty full....that's good.
 
pdcue said:
Big J gave you some good advice.

Some Pawn shops are super high on cues, or anything else, if they smell
that you want it.

As to the ferrule - I know LOTS about the old Schon ferrule material:)
and I can tell you it looks right for a orig Schon shaft. Maybe they had
some left when this shaft was made, or maybe it is an older shaft.
Schon shafts are/were allegedly 'interchangerable'.

Free negotiating advice - and worth every penny of the cost:

You are at a big disadvantage because by now they think you are "hot"
for this cue.
Soooo, take a friend who knows enough about cues to be able to handle
it and look like he knows what he is doing. Do a dramatic inspection of
the cue. Walk off together and discuss the cue in obviously hushed terms.

Come back and line up 10 $20 bills on the counter saying something on
the order of - "I'll take it right now - for 200"

They most likely will scoff and decline. Lay down 2 more 20s and say
something like. "Last chance.".

If they don't accept the offer within 10 seconds - gather up your
money and walk out.

I doubt seriously they will let you get out the door.

ps: There are lots of nice Schons out there - see what a post in
Wanted-For-Sale brings.

Dale
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Thank you! Good advice! I have down to a good range now!
 
Schon ferrules
 

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