How About An AZB "Undercard" Match For A TAR Match?

(((Satori))) said:
Since this rivalry was created from a disagreement in aiming, I think a game that showcases more shotmaking would be better suited.
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Everything in one pocket is shotmaking. If you think you don't have to come with shots in one pocket then you don't know the game. I was only offering to play his best game and spot him. He can have the last two in ten ball for 50 a game or 10 points in rotation.


www.jbcases.com
 
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Originally Posted by JB Cases
I'd be happy to stink up the TAR table. I will spot Lou F. a ball in one hole for $100 a game and guarantee that I will be willing to lose up to $500 if he can take it.
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book collector said:
If you can spot lou a ball ypu wont be stinkin up the table
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http://www.onepocket.org/forum/showthread.php?t=4942

Also, I am honored that John remembers beating me in a race to two, what, probably 10+ years ago at a RSB get-together in Chicago. (Must have been a big deal for him.) My recollection is a bit hazy but as I recall he splashed the rack a couple of times when I had him in a death trap and shee-at out.

Even though I'm not hard to find (I will be at the DCC, Tunica, and the US Open 1Pocket this year) John prefers to yap at me from a distance. This has been going on for years. Lately he appears to have gotten worse and become my own little stalker. Just to show you how long this has been going on, here's something funny I came across looking for something else a few days ago. It's from Feb '02.

"Ode to John and Lou

Say what! Do I perceive?
You insulted me!
Did not, did so. Did too,
Poopie pants. Doogie doo
Talks big, shoots small.
Name the place, it's your call
O, who is to be believed?
We're headin' for a showdown
And lookin' for the low down
I need the 7 & 8 plus the breaks
8-Ball, 9-Ball, whatever it takes
One-hole six down
You're busted, clown!
Freeze up or a banker
Are you a tanker?
A banker was offered, no bets layed down
Seems there was the lack of a town
And towns suggested by the score
All were rejected, let's name some more
Ol Mose is confused, I surely is!
I'll come there. No you go here.
High drama but poor Smorg's outta beer!
Eight months to set up a match
Seems like there is always a catch
I'll be there. I'll be gone. Meet me in Dogpatch.
Don' wanna play in no briar patch.
Low airfares abound, will this game ever go down?
Good friends or Mortal Kombat
I can't believe what I'm readin. Did he say that?
I'm gullible, I admit and can't play a lick
But I'm up to watchin' a couple of good sticks
Offers are tendered and summarily rendered
I think it's time to go on a bender
Solomon I'm not so I'll just stir the pot
Here it is then, my final offer
And nothing needs go into my coffer
Olathe is the name and one-hole the game
You can drive it even if your car is lame
A short Friday drive out and a short Sunday drive back
24 hours to prove you are no hack
High Noon on the Prarie
Shoot out at one, Calcutta at eleven
I'm offerin six-seven
Only a buck...............
I don't play rough
If you've got gamble
I'm sure someone will give you all you can handle
It's a date. Don't be late.
The contestants are eager to proove their point
There's not an empty seat in the joint.
Spectators have gathered from far and near
Listening intently, leaning forward to hear
Lou says to John "How do you do?"
John says to Lou "It's good to see you"
Anticlimatic. Let's shoot some pool.
No Sardo's here
I'll rack for beer
Joey's sweatin before it starts
Smorg just sits and blows beer farts
Stoney racks..................
Huh! Me rack? Sorry, I'm on vacation that day and can't make it! Let me
know how it turns out.
Regards,
Stoney <-----Obviously too much time, too little talent"

Lou Figueroa
 
JumpinJoe said:
In all seriousness a good undercard match would be something with trash talkers. Get em out of retirement.
Something like this:

Keith McCready (vs) Tony Watson

Two good talkers, and both have always been fun to watch
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I support this. Speaking of Keith, where is JAM? I haven't seen those two in quite a few years. If someone has her contact info, kindly PM me as I've lost it and would like to say hi.

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Stalker? Hardly. I just repeated the same offer I have made many times. I will be at SBE and we can play there if you have time.

I do fondly cherish my one victory over you as one of my personal greatest accomplishments in pool.

Knowing what an amazing player you are it was quite a surprise to pull off a victory of even one game and two just put it over the top.

You're certainly right about the way the game went. I had nothing but Hal Houle's aiming system so I just frammed into the rack and tried to run balls. Thanks Hal!

Anyway I am happy to give you a shot to erase that embarrassing blip on your record and win some lunch money. I will even give you weight to almost insure that you win. I say almost because I could get lucky again.

I honestly don't care if we play though. I think it would fun and if I win then I can legitimately razz you for the next ten years :-)

www.jbcases.com
 
I am a system guy!

Yup, I am a system guy and I sit around and pontificate about stuff, good stuff, too.

I have been sincere in my work about AIMING. I promote an aiming system that takes a player to the shot line. No need to look at pockets, cushions, or diamonds. If what I say is true, then the implications for the game of pool is significant. I have taken plenty of heat about my work over the years but that's ok, I know what I speak of.

I have a list that I am thinking of for some players that have played on TAR.
I would love to see them shoot into well-blinded pockets live on TAR for 5 hours.(I am speaking of shots that are semi-easy to medium hard type shots to include banks.)

I am just really curious if their aiming methods require the pocket as a part of their way of shooting. If their systems do require looking at the pocket, then they might be interested in a system that does not have that requirement.

Professional players that are interested in trying their aiming method against CTE PRO ONE using well-blinded pockets, then just stop by my teaching facility when you are in the KENTUCKY area. ( A few shots or an hour is not suitable for a challenge of this nature. 5 hours is ideal.) We can even use 3.5 inch pockets if you request that.

I am not JUST about selling a product, I am about promoting something that can impact our game and most all motivated players in a very positive manner.

Anyway, my heart is in the right place and there are times that I sit and wish that others could know that too. But that's Ok, I am a big boy and I can put things into perspective.

Sure, stroke and speed and spin and strategy are all-important. CTE PRO ONE is specific to aim and I have never claimed anything else.
But, all games pretty much require you to put the ball in the hole. I don't think anyone can argue that aim is not hugely important.


Stan Shuffett
 
JumpinJoe said:
In all seriousness a good undercard match would be something with trash talkers. Get em out of retirement.
Something like this:

Keith McCready (vs) Tony Watson

Two good talkers, and both have always been fun to watch
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I'd pay to see this more than I would the main event!:grin-square:
 
At this point I'm voting for JB and Lou to sqaure off. they both play pretty salty as I understand, and a little smack talk never hurts the entertainment factor!!!
 
stan shuffett said:
Yup, I am a system guy and I sit around and pontificate about stuff, good stuff, too.

I have been sincere in my work about AIMING. I promote an aiming system that takes a player to the shot line. No need to look at pockets, cushions, or diamonds. If what I say is true, then the implications for the game of pool is significant. I have taken plenty of heat about my work over the years but that's ok, I know what I speak of.

I have a list that I am thinking of for some players that have played on TAR.
I would love to see them shoot into well-blinded pockets live on TAR for 5 hours.(I am speaking of shots that are semi-easy to medium hard type shots to include banks.)

I am just really curious if their aiming methods require the pocket as a part of their way of shooting. If their systems do require looking at the pocket, then they might be interested in a system that does not have that requirement.

Professional players that are interested in trying their aiming method against CTE PRO ONE using well-blinded pockets, then just stop by my teaching facility when you are in the KENTUCKY area. ( A few shots or an hour is not suitable for a challenge of this nature. 5 hours is ideal.) We can even use 3.5 inch pockets if you request that.

I am not JUST about selling a product, I am about promoting something that can impact our game and most all motivated players in a very positive manner.

Anyway, my heart is in the right place and there are times that I sit and wish that others could know that too. But that's Ok, I am a big boy and I can put things into perspective.

Sure, stroke and speed and spin and strategy are all-important. CTE PRO ONE is specific to aim and I have never claimed anything else.
But, all games pretty much require you to put the ball in the hole. I don't think anyone can argue that aim is not hugely important.


Stan Shuffett
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Stan, would you be willing to hook up with anyone from the aiming systems world? Or even that young prodigy of a shooter you have would be fun to see play any of the aiming/instructor guys.
 
jhanso18 said:
Stan, would you be willing to hook up with anyone from the aiming systems world? Or even that young prodigy of a shooter you have would be fun to see play any of the aiming/instructor guys.
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Competition for Landon or me means being prepared. Landon has not competed since October but if he were to get into the competition mode, then a game is always possible.

In my earlier post, I clearly indicated a position. As far as hooking up I would not dare unless I went through a preparatory phase. I have been immersed in my video work for months and am busy with lessons but when my video work is complete I am not immune to getting back into competition for any fair game.

Stan Shuffett
 
hi

stan shuffett said:
Yup, I am a system guy and I sit around and pontificate about stuff, good stuff, too.

I have been sincere in my work about AIMING. I promote an aiming system that takes a player to the shot line. No need to look at pockets, cushions, or diamonds. If what I say is true, then the implications for the game of pool is significant. I have taken plenty of heat about my work over the years but that's ok, I know what I speak of.

I have a list that I am thinking of for some players that have played on TAR.
I would love to see them shoot into well-blinded pockets live on TAR for 5 hours.(I am speaking of shots that are semi-easy to medium hard type shots to include banks.)

I am just really curious if their aiming methods require the pocket as a part of their way of shooting. If their systems do require looking at the pocket, then they might be interested in a system that does not have that requirement.

Professional players that are interested in trying their aiming method against CTE PRO ONE using well-blinded pockets, then just stop by my teaching facility when you are in the KENTUCKY area. ( A few shots or an hour is not suitable for a challenge of this nature. 5 hours is ideal.) We can even use 3.5 inch pockets if you request that.

I am not JUST about selling a product, I am about promoting something that can impact our game and most all motivated players in a very positive manner.

Anyway, my heart is in the right place and there are times that I sit and wish that others could know that too. But that's Ok, I am a big boy and I can put things into perspective.

Sure, stroke and speed and spin and strategy are all-important. CTE PRO ONE is specific to aim and I have never claimed anything else.
But, all games pretty much require you to put the ball in the hole. I don't think anyone can argue that aim is not hugely important.


Stan Shuffett
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aiming systems are good but a delivery system would be better.
in golf u can aim perfect ,its easy to do but to deliver the golf ball straight is much harder.same with pool.
when a golfer hits it crooked i dont think its cause they aim bad its because they swing club bad etc.
same with pool i aim pretty good but when i miss its cause i deliver cue badly etc. for the record if someone like aiming systems stan shuffet is a great person to c
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stan shuffett said:
Competition for Landon or me means being prepared. Landon has not competed since October but if he were to get into the competition mode, then a game is always possible.

In my earlier post, I clearly indicated a position. As far as hooking up I would not dare unless I went through a preparatory phase. I have been immersed in my video work for months and am busy with lessons but when my video work is complete I am not immune to getting back into competition for any fair game.

Stan Shuffett
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I for one would love to see Landon play some more! That kid plays great!

I've seen Geno play some in person, and his stuff definitely works for him. I've watched Landon on stream, and he definitely runs out like water in a funnel!

I think those two could match up very well!
 
also

the top ten list include a couple a,b,c,d, and one strong a player wannabe pro.
trust me most people who r new to pool and play bad know it and arent the know it all braggarts im referring to.
its usually strong b weak a players who really make the list. one guy is without a doubt number one on list and fits everything i said.
ive had fun back on azb but im kinda into fb now.
i know who im talking to ,its a much more civil adult way to tal on fb.
u guys take care im gonna do my best to stay off here as azb is fun but not productive at all for me,to much hate,negativity,etc etc.
 
john schmidt said:
aiming systems are good but a delivery system would be better.
in golf u can aim perfect ,its easy to do but to deliver the golf ball straight is much harder.same with pool.
when a golfer hits it crooked i dont think its cause they aim bad its because they swing club bad etc.
same with pool i aim pretty good but when i miss its cause i deliver cue badly etc. for the record if someone like aiming systems stan shuffet is a great person to c
.
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John,
No argument from me concerning a delivery system. You are dead on!
It does take a longtime, though, to develop a feel or a connection to hit the pockets.

The point I am making and it's largely overlooked. There is a system that takes a player to shot lines. There has never been anything like it before in full description.

I can only hope that one day I can share this with you in full and then get your response from an experience perspective.

My home is always open for your visits. I will pay 1/2 of your travel expenses to KY, all expenses while you are here and then you can report of your findings.

Let's say, just by chance that you like what you see, then I will train and recognize you as CTE PRO ONE instructor and you will have at your finger tips a significant additional source of income for the rest of your life.

Just something to think about, John.

I wish I had your delivery system, my friend.

Stan Shuffett
 
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thanks

stan shuffett said:
John,
No argument from me concerning a delivery system. You are dead on!
It does take a long, though, to develop a feel or a connection to hit the pockets.

The point I am making and it's largely overlooked. There is a system that takes a player to shot lines. There has never been anything like it before in full description.

I can only hope that one day I can share this with you in full and then get your response from an experience perspective.

My home is always open for your visits. I will pay 1/2 of your travel expenses to KY, all expenses while you are here and then you can report of your findings.

Let's say, just by chance that you like what you see, then I will train and recognize you as CTE PRO ONE instructor and you will have at your finger tips a significant additional source income for the rest of your life.


Just something to think about, John.

I wish I had your delivery system, my friend.

Stan Shuffett
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sounds good bud thanks for the offer
 
jhanso18 said:
At this point I'm voting for JB and Lou to sqaure off. they both play pretty salty as I understand, and a little smack talk never hurts the entertainment factor!!!
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I dunno about Lou, but JB/John Barton is just an average amateur hack. Not a high level amateur like he likes to portray.

Then again, I've only seen JB play one match and I persoanlly played him a race to 7, another time (unless he got A LOT better in the last 5-6 years).


Eric >doubts it
 
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