Rodeny Morris Beats the 13 ball Ghost usng CTE
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Joey in Cali - You at Hard Times watching Rodney in person? As Oscar said "Rodney is hitting the balls pure".
Worst he can do is 3rd place. Playing Jayson Shaw next. How do you like that CTE now?
Yes, I saw it and saw something else Rodney did when shooting a tough 9 .
He did shot pretty bad in his loss but he looked disinterested.
Best thing about CTE is that you still have ALL the other tools you have ever learned to draw from. You can always do whatever you want from using only CTE to using GB or pure feel or whatever combination you want.
That sounds like a waiver and escape clause but wuttever.
Rodney did it again on that 5 ball.
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That sounds like a waiver and escape clause but wuttever.
Rodney did it again on that 5 ball.
It's the absolute truth.
Same thing I told Duckie. I can ALWAYS go back to Ghost Ball at any time.
But if he does not know CTE then he is stuck with GB. That's the advantage.
I don't see how it's any different from athletes who endorse a certain protein supplement or sportswear brand. Burford is a top player irrespective of his aiming system. The keys to success are starting young (with a decent amount of natural talent), and then putting the hours in to hone your technique and develop your game. If you do that, the rest becomes essentially irrelevant. You're coming off as very, very naive here, in my opinion.
I shouldn't play games I don't have the time to finish? Hilarious. Pretty much every other poster on here is capable of having a normal length conversation without resorting to page length posts and countless links to other videos/articles to try to prove their point. So you're right, I don't have the time or inclination for that - to be honest with you, I'm thankful I don't.
What part of my argument does he not agree with?
Anyway, as you like them so much, here's a link for you:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AzWgEDqk2e8
Do you think he's using CTE/ProOne/blah, blah, blah?
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He learned the method and made it part of his game first and foremost to improve himself. THAT is the difference. Now he is helping others to learn the same method that he is successfully using. That's a lot different that being paid to endorse something. Plus I honestly don't think Phil or any player is going to consciously promote a technique that they feel is detrimental.
So you say that method is irrelevant. It's you who is naive if you think success is ONLY putting in the hours. Putting in the hours is only the first step. Using the time the right way is the second.
Well, there is not wanting to and not able to. The links all pertain to the points. This is the internet after all and linking to relevant content is the very basis of it all. I didn't realize we had a limit on what we can type. Do you have a limit on what you can read? If you only want to argue without counterpoints you're in the wrong place on a discussion forum.
The part where you say that champion pool players have NO CHANCE at snooker. Steve does not agree with you.
And in fact he respects pool and pool players very highly.
Most certainly not. But I can tell you that he COULD have used CTE/ProOne and made the same shot. You show me a low percentage shot that he slams 100mph and expect it to prove what? You can see a ton of great pots in snooker and in pool by players who use a whole spectrum of methods from highly mechanical to pure feel.
You need to practice up in the video quoting department
We can all show videos of great players running out. Only I can show ones of people whom I KNOW are using a certain aiming method which is used as evidence that this method is both valid and useful at the highest levels of the game.Where does he say that?
From the video I saw, and forgive me if it's the wrong one (you posted about fifty), he said that if someone like Efren had grown up playing snooker, learning the fundamentals from an early age, he'd be a champion snooker player. That's a very different thing from making the jump from one sport to the other at a later age. Very, very different.
I gave you a guide with descriptions and markers. The point being that Steve showed the utmost respect for pool and it's champion players. While he did not expressly say that a champion pool player could transition from pool to snooker and be a champion snooker player the very fact that he said all the skills are the same implies that it would be possible for a champion pool player to make a good showing at professional snooker given the right amount of training and seasoning.
All the skills needed are there.
In any event if the question is could a top ten pool player with enough training transition to snooker and make it into the top 100 my answer is yes I think so and I bet Steve's would be leaning towards probably as well based on what Steve said in the interview.
Okay then :wink:.
Is this based on a percentage of shots taken that are pocketed?
I am not sure how you really want to make this comparison.
Tell you what, if you like I will concede that Mark Williams is the best potter on Earth. Now just imagine what this player could do if he used CTE?
You see in your world view there can't BE any better way to aim than whatever Mark is doing. In my world view I always think that it's possible that Mark can be even better and possible that a technique he doesn't yet use could be the catalyst to make him better.
Conversely no one who advocates CTE is trying hard to STOP any player from copying Mark Williams. If anyone wants to emulate his every move then by all means do so. You however are actively trying to stop players from trying CTE. Who are you to tell people expressly or implicitly what they can't and shouldn't do?
By the way, Efren is a better potter than Mark Williams. WAY BETTER.
Why? Because Efren can do things with the cue WHILE potting that Mark only has fantasies about. Efren banks and kicks balls in that Mark can't even begin to fantasize about. So any time Mark wants to get down with Efren in some one pocket for $50,000 just hop on a flight to Manila. Butch Puyat is waiting with a suitcase full of cash.
And don't worry, Efren knows he has no chance in snooker. But for a great potter like Mark it should be easy to snap off any pool player in any game right?
Tell you what let's go one better. Let's do an all around of snooker and pool with Alex Pagulayan against any snooker player. They can play ten ball and one pocket and snooker.
Alex is a diehard pool player who dabbles in snooker long enough each year to win the Canadian championships where he routinely makes centuries and I think has a high run of 145.
He might have a shot to steal a match from a snooker pro.
Alex is a diehard pool player who dabbles in snooker long enough each year to win the Canadian championships where he routinely makes centuries and I think has a high run of 145.
He might have a shot to steal a match from a snooker pro.
Wow. Just wow. I think it's better that we leave it here if that's how you see things. I refuse to do battle with an unarmed man.
You don't get this AT ALL. if Mark J Williams could be arsed enough to play a game as dull as one pocket, he'd be unbeatable.
There is a chasm in thinking here which is clearly insurmountable.
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I fully agree. The chasm between our thinking is clearly insurmountable. So you go on thinking snooker players are unbeatable at any pocket billiard game and I will go on thinking they are not.
And guess what? Nothing will change at all in pool or snooker. No matter how many times you say everyone on earth should be snooker bots it's not going to happen in pool. So if you like pool which I hope you do since you hang out on a primarily pool forum I suggest you sit back and relax and enjoy the good pool that pool players play.
Enjoy your speculations as to who would beat whom in what and meanwhile I will continue to play around with whatever concepts interest me and motivate me to play more pool.
Ok lets. Unless you want to show me a video where Mark is potting and doing all the things Efren does. You showed me on clip where Mark pocketed one ball.
Efren has hundreds of clips online of him making spectacular shots.
Unlike in Snooker in pool players have to be highly proficient in kicking and banking as well as pocketing and for that Efren has hardly any equals. Shot for shot Efren is better than any snooker player. Not on a snooker table though. On a pool table they have no chance to match Efren's shot making.
All the shots in Mark's top ten in this video are standard for Reyes - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V6bIfOe8-5I the only notable thing is that they are on a snooker table, many of them were shots to nothing as you guys say it where he would be safe if he missed the pot.
Conversely Efren makes truly amazing shots that show a incredible depth of skill and creativity.
https://www.youtube.com/results?sea....1442.0j3j1j1j1.6.0...0.0...1ac.1.nsZrYvqdz0w
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Guys, I am really sorry that this thread has gone way off track.
Rodney Morris is currently using CTE aiming to some degree and he has beaten the 15 ball ghost and is very happy with it. Today he took third behind Dennis Orcullo and Jayson Shaw at the Swanee Tournament.
Phil Burford beat Ralf Souquet in teh finals of GB9 event yesterday.
So if you are interested in CTE there are two recent examples of pros who use CTE. If not interested feel free to skip to something else.
Ciao.
Rodney Morris is currently using CTE aiming to some degree and he has beaten the 15 ball ghost and is very happy with it. Today he took third behind Dennis Orcullo and Jayson Shaw at the Swanee Tournament.
Phil Burford beat Ralf Souquet in teh finals of GB9 event yesterday.
So if you are interested in CTE there are two recent examples of pros who use CTE. If not interested feel free to skip to something else.
Ciao.