Alternatives to AZ wanted/for sale??

xianmacx

xianmacx

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Guys,

I know I am contributing to the spam with this, but are their any other billiard sites that have good for sale sections? Its out of control here. The mods need to do something. You post something and it is on page 4 in 12 hours. Then you need to be strategic on when to bump after the 48 hour mark so that you can get some daytime views. make sub forums or something:

cues under 200
cues over 200
cases
 
What mods need to do is delete the threads that are already sold and done. I see threads of stuff sold or traded get bumped. As soon as the transaction is done delete the thread. That'll clear up some of the useless crap on this forum.
 
I have a small WFS gallery on my site. It's set up in gallery view, with a set of filters to narrow down the search in several ways, like, cue, accessories, cases, open, closed,,,,,etc. It's very easy to use and bumping really isn't necessary, though it's allowed if you wish to do so.

The downside is membership is much lower there so the quantity isn't there, but anyone can view it without being a member. Posting does require membership.
 
I think you all should petition Mike and Jerry to allow for more mods on this section.

Let this section police itself.

That said I have FOUND no place on the internet to sell billiard stuff that gets as much focused traffic as AZB. I created a forum when the rules went to no dealers on here and it's got a little play but I don't even bother with it anymore. Fact is that this is where it's at and Ebay if you really want to move your stuff.

Unless you speak Chinese then you could post on their forums. :-)
 
What's the pay for being a moderator? Is it the same as the price posting ads?
 
I'm guilty of bumping threads with comments. I had no idea it was an issue, but after reading this I can see the logic behind not allowing that.

As far as stickies, I'm a member of so many forums that if I read every sticky in every section I'd never get anything done. Now that I know better, I will act accordingly.

One suggestion that may help at least a little. Other forums allow higher numbers of posts per thread/threads per page. Could that number possibly be raised here so that at least in the short term threads won't get buried so deep so fast?
 
This is not cragslist or ebay, alright? Forums in general is not designed for the purpose of online classifieds. Perhaps mod should turn off the reply function under Wanted/FS. Trades are strictly between sellers and buyers thru PMs. If replies are allowed, ppl who try to advertise their own sales will try to bump, bump and re-bump their own threads in order to stay on the top. We do not see replies on craigslist. Or the alternative is to modify vBulletin to make it more like eBay listing format - where sellers can answer questions and choose to share the answers publicly. my 2 cents
 
I found a great alternative it's called the local pool hall. That's what I did the last time; the WFS section and all the issues are too much trouble... I probably got a couple hundred less than I might have been able to squeeze out of it here but it was worth it to me.
 
At PBNation (paintball forum) there's so much traffic in the for sale section that aside from having different categories, they also have an option to buy 'Gold UPs'... basically pay to have your thread stickied for a period of time. The price depends on the length of the sticky (anywhere from a few days to a month) and the category. Annual supporting members also get 2 free gold ups a year and they can even be traded. A similar system might work well here.
 
I've noticed that some of the larger gun forums have many sub-categories, the search will bring them all up, and it's a pain in the ass sometimes to find what you want.
I like the way we do it except it is moving too fast for the real buyers & sellers.
Personally I don't want to be a rat, and I don't care for forum cops, but maybe some co-moderators could be hired that are active in the WFS, to help weed-out some of the annoying threads that really don't belong in the for sale section.
Maybe move them to a junk pile or something...for instance like the guy that was trying to unload a garage full of used bowling balls.
Even if some of the more important decisions are made by committee, at least the enforcement can be ratcheted up, and nobody can feel like they are being singled out.
 
I think having a couple different sections in the forsale section would make a huge difference. A wanted to buy, want to trade, cases, production cues and custom.
 
A lot of good ideas here

You guys have a lot of good ideas,but how can we get some of them in place?
I mean can we talk to the mods or something?I know they need help,and are very busy with all this "stuff" What can we do to help? Thanks.
Marc
 
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Some of the things that would keep the forum working as it should, would be not allowing "Great looking cue!" or "I wish I had the money" type comments. Also, a question should ALWAYS be sent and replied to via PM. If the question is about something such a specs, the OP should not only reply via PM, but edit the original post so as not to get any more of the same question. I would say that 90% of all posts in this forum are unnecessary. Cut out all the BS, have people actually stick to the 48 hour rule (as some of us actually do), and things would work a hell of a lot better.

Chris
 
imo the 48 hour bump rule makes selling items extremely difficult when your item ends up 14 pages back in 48 hours. i would like to see a 24 hour bump rule, no replies from seller or buyer on sale threads (just a bump button), and separate subsections for cues, cases, and wtb items.
 
This has all been discussed to the point of nauseaum many times before . Apparently the mods like it the way it is. If memory serves me their response was it was too costly to divide up the section. I personally would be willing to pay to sticky my ad .
 
spliced said:
imo the 48 hour bump rule makes selling items extremely difficult when your item ends up 14 pages back in 48 hours. i would like to see a 24 hour bump rule, no replies from seller or buyer on sale threads (just a bump button), and separate subsections for cues, cases, and wtb items.
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I mostly agree with you,but 48 hours would work if no "Nice cue" kind of comments were not allowed.Also if a seller has, let's say 5 items for sale,put them in one post.Also,DON'T make a separate post to say "sold" Go back and take out the price and put sold in it's place.Use the edit button.Just my $.02
Marc
 
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mono-eat-mono said:
This is not cragslist or ebay, alright? Forums in general is not designed for the purpose of online classifieds. Perhaps mod should turn off the reply function under Wanted/FS. Trades are strictly between sellers and buyers thru PMs. If replies are allowed, ppl who try to advertise their own sales will try to bump, bump and re-bump their own threads in order to stay on the top. We do not see replies on craigslist. Or the alternative is to modify vBulletin to make it more like eBay listing format - where sellers can answer questions and choose to share the answers publicly. my 2 cents
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I really like this idea.
Poster posts contact info - email/phone number and all negotiations done outside of forum.
Disabling "Reply" will save tons of space and will enforce people to communicate outside the forum.
And I imagine adds will remain on first pages longer.
 
Also, just curious. Is there a way to have a chat about this with Mods?
Are they willing to listen and talk? Or is it just "My way or the highway" type of deal?
I mean no disrespect - just trying to understand what the deal here.
And if i can help in any way, i am here, just let me know.
I am willing to dedicate some time(1-2 hrs/day) to help with site.
 
Kot_Bigemot said:
Also, just curious. Is there a way to have a chat about this with Mods?
Are they willing to listen and talk? Or is it just "My way or the highway" type of deal?
I mean no disrespect - just trying to understand what the deal here.
And if i can help in any way, i am here, just let me know.
I am willing to dedicate some time(1-2 hrs/day) to help with site.
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Great idea.I can dedicate time too,if it will help.I am retired (mostly)
Marc
 
Devilish48 said:
Some of the things that would keep the forum working as it should, would be not allowing "Great looking cue!" or "I wish I had the money" type comments. Also, a question should ALWAYS be sent and replied to via PM. If the question is about something such a specs, the OP should not only reply via PM, but edit the original post so as not to get any more of the same question. I would say that 90% of all posts in this forum are unnecessary. Cut out all the BS, have people actually stick to the 48 hour rule (as some of us actually do), and things would work a hell of a lot better.

Chris
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The only problem with this is that this IS a forum. People window shop, they like to browse and comment.

Where it gets "funny" is the "bumping" that happens when fans and friends make those "nice cue" comments on every thread posted by the people they like. I NOT NOT NOT saying it's done in collusion deliberately. But it's often done just to be nice to a buddy in a NON-malicious way. That behavior needs to be stopped by letting everyone know that it's not helpful to the flow of the forum.

Personally I like the idea of interaction if it's legitimate question about the item. I think that questions asked and answered in public are beneficial to more than just the person asking. So I would like to see that allowed. To me that is natural behavior and any bumping that occurs through that should be ok.

But the seller should be held to the same 48 hour period for his answers and should answer ALL questions in ONE post for that 48 hour bump. Of course they can always communicate with buyers privately at any time.

Actually I also like editing the original post to include the questions and answers. That handles the public information side of it without bumping.

I think one thing that is being overlooked is that a lot of people use the subscription feature to remind them when a reply comes in to their question. They post a question and don't look at the thread again until they get a notification that there is a new reply.

I think that there is only so much we can do to change normal behavior here. It's a flea market and at the flea market people do what feels natural to them.
 
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