Is this CTE-like ?

[JoeyInCali]

Shot is less than half a ball hit ( just slight ).
Pocket is to the left of the ob.
Bridge slightly to the left of the center of the cueball ( lined up to the edge of the ob ) then pivot to the center of the cueball. Tip now lines up a little outside of the edge of the ob.
Ball goes in.

 

[LAMas]

Sorry, but he's booked for these dates.

CTE/PRO ONE Los Angeles,CA March18,19,20 - 03-11-2013, 03:00 PM

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I will be in the Los Angeles area on these dates if you or someone you know is interested in this technique. My email is stevietheblade@gmail.com

Best Regards

Stevie Moore

 

[nobcitypool]

CTE/PRO ONE Los Angeles,CA March18,19,20 - 03-11-2013, 03:00 PM

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I will be in the Los Angeles area on these dates if you or someone you know is interested in this technique. My email is stevietheblade@gmail.com

Best Regards

Stevie Moore

^^^^^^^^^^^

This. From what I've read, very reasonable rates as well. From a top pro, and from all I've heard, a very nice guy.

 

[JMS]

Shot is less than half a ball hit ( just slight ).
Pocket is to the left of the ob.
Bridge slightly to the left of the center of the cueball ( lined up to the edge of the ob ) then pivot to the center of the cueball. Tip now lines up a little outside of the edge of the ob.
Ball goes in.

No, but it sounds a lil bit of 90/90 aiming but not quite. Sounds like you have alot of misinformation. Stop reading Dr. Dave's misguided info on pivot systems and just buy the Pro One DVD. Once you get that you can PM me with any questions you might have.

 

[JB Cases]

Shot is less than half a ball hit ( just slight ).
Pocket is to the left of the ob.
Bridge slightly to the left of the center of the cueball ( lined up to the edge of the ob ) then pivot to the center of the cueball. Tip now lines up a little outside of the edge of the ob.
Ball goes in.

Yes in a sense. It's a ball-to-ball method that keeps the sighting and aiming ON the balls. In other words you are using only the objects you can actually see to do the aiming.

But it's not CTE because CTE requires the starting point to be the edge of the object ball.

 

[JoeyInCali]

No, but it sounds a lil bit of 90/90 aiming but not quite. Sounds like you have alot of misinformation. Stop reading Dr. Dave's misguided info on pivot systems and just buy the Pro One DVD. Once you get that you can PM me with any questions you might have.

I'm not misguided. Nobody told me that's pro one.
I can get a copy of pro-one from a friend . He's lost on the pivot process.

But it's not CTE because CTE requires the starting point to be the edge of the object ball.

Thnx.
That is still technically edge of the ob to the inside of the cb.

 

[mohrt]

Shot is less than half a ball hit ( just slight ).
Pocket is to the left of the ob.
Bridge slightly to the left of the center of the cueball ( lined up to the edge of the ob ) then pivot to the center of the cueball. Tip now lines up a little outside of the edge of the ob.
Ball goes in.

First, setup the exact shot on a table diagram, post here.

http://www.billiardsthegame.com/btgtable/

 

[LAMas]

Shot is less than half a ball hit ( just slight ).
Pocket is to the left of the ob.
Bridge slightly to the left of the center of the cueball ( lined up to the edge of the ob ) then pivot to the center of the cueball. Tip now lines up a little outside of the edge of the ob.
Ball goes in.

I believe that is a geometrically correct CTE starting alignment. If shot with center CB (stun), the OB will miss the indicated pocket and hit the head rail to the right of the pocket. In order to pocket the ball from CTE, one can use a bit of outside english to gear the OB into the pocket.

Alternatively, one can use high top or draw to pockt the ball while aiming at the CTE aim line.

Orrrr....one can shift the tip of the cue a bit to the inside of the CTE line and then pivot from the bridge hand back to the center of the CB and that will create a new aim line a bit to the outside of the edge of the OB and pocket the ball.

CTE, shift, pivot and shoot....ball goes in.:smile:

You have mastered one cut angle...now for the other cut angles...buy the DVD.:thumbup:

 

[AtLarge]

Shot is less than half a ball hit ( just slight ). ...

The shot pictured in your diagram is actually a bit thinner than a half-ball aim -- it's a 32.3 degree cut. Plus you may need to aim it even a bit thinner than that to allow for collision-induced throw. But with CTE/Pro1, none of that matters.

 

[randyg]

The shot pictured in your diagram is actually a bit thinner than a half-ball aim -- it's a 32.3 degree cut. Plus you may need to aim it even a bit thinner than that to allow for collision-induced throw. But with CTE/Pro1, none of that matters.

ATLARGE

Is not a half ball hit actually 32 degrees?

randyg

 

[mohrt]

ATLARGE

Is not a half ball hit actually 32 degrees?

randyg

Geometrically it is exactly 30 degrees. As for hitting the pocket you have to factor in throw, as throw is maximized on the half ball hit. Hit a touch thinner, add a touch of outside spin, or hit the shot firm. That is probably where the 32 degrees comes from, hit a touch thinner to go.

 

[LAMas]

The shot pictured in your diagram is actually a bit thinner than a half-ball aim -- it's a 32.3 degree cut. Plus you may need to aim it even a bit thinner than that to allow for collision-induced throw. But with CTE/Pro1, none of that matters.

On AutoCad the included angle from the CB to the OB center to the pocket is 30.96375653 degrees and CB to the GB center is 32.19794698 degrees but who is counting or cares?

 

[AtLarge]

ATLARGE

Is not a half ball hit actually 32 degrees?

randyg

Randy, a half-ball aim (as you like to say) is geometrically 30 degrees. As LAMas notes, one may need to cut it a bit thinner than that (say, 32 degrees) to allow for CIT.

But the shot shown in the diagram is not exactly a half-ball aim to center pocket. The cue ball would have to be a bit closer to the long rail than it is (i.e., it would not be at the intersection of the two-up-one-over diamonds). By my calculations, the shot in the diagram is 32.3 degrees geometrically. And, again, one might need to cut it a bit thinner than 32.3 degrees to allow for CIT.