What I Suspect Limits Many in Learning CTE/Pro One

[Slide Rule]

Mapping

You simply do not, can not or will not understand CTE.
The primary reason is that real CTE is of another dimension of which you are unfamiliar with and have certainly never experienced.
CTE is real. Get used to it.
As i said before CTE is beyond what you and your engineering team can unravel at this time.

Stan Shuffett

Stan

I read your posts with interest and to gain information. I am also
an engineer. I have a very strong mathematics background.

Your system appears to be precisely what you say. It is to use a
mathematics term a mapping of one system to another.

Mapping is done in math in order to find easier or more elegant
solutions. Unfortunately I have been away from my math for
many years. Electrical Engineers and other engineers commonly
use mapping.

Electricals use Laplace transforms to transform differential
equations into algebra problems. Then the problem is
transformed back into the original domain.

That mapping is a useful device is unquestioned.

I had a boss once who responded to my claim of problem solving
with an observation. Engineers are good problem solvers because
they create so many problems. I asked if I could help him with
the specifics after he explained them. No. He would resolve it
directly. A bright boss, who was not an engineer.

I wish I had the skills to figure what the actual mapping transform
was. It has just been too many years for me to put in the effort.
Perhaps someone here could take it up. Perhaps a thesis topic.

I respect those who are encouraging new discovery in my favorite
sport. Keep at it.

 

[8pack]

You simply do not, can not or will not understand CTE.
The primary reason is that real CTE is of another dimension of which you are unfamiliar with and have certainly never experienced.CTE is real. Get used to it.
As i said before CTE is beyond what you and your engineering team can unravel at this time.

Stan Shuffett

I would say there,s probably a few that own it but really dont understand it and you talking about another dimension isnt going to help.
Do you think real science guys couldnt figure cte out?

Anthony

 

[stan shuffett]

I would say there,s probably a few that own it but really dont understand it and you talking about another dimension isnt going to help.
Do you think real science guys couldnt figure cte out?

Anthony

They have not unravelled CTE yet. wrong mind set for many... But I am pulling for 'em. If I can put it to language then surely they can put it to math.

CTE can be understood by practically anyone. CTE PRO ONE is actually very simple if one approaches their study from a proper mind set. It is different and most that do not grasp it have not yet let go of how to really not aim.

Stan Shuffett

The times are a changin'...

 

[stan shuffett]

Stan

I read your posts with interest and to gain information. I am also
an engineer. I have a very strong mathematics background.

Your system appears to be precisely what you say. It is to use a
mathematics term a mapping of one system to another.

Mapping is done in math in order to find easier or more elegant
solutions. Unfortunately I have been away from my math for
many years. Electrical Engineers and other engineers commonly
use mapping.

Electricals use Laplace transforms to transform differential
equations into algebra problems. Then the problem is
transformed back into the original domain.

That mapping is a useful device is unquestioned.

I had a boss once who responded to my claim of problem solving
with an observation. Engineers are good problem solvers because
they create so many problems. I asked if I could help him with
the specifics after he explained them. No. He would resolve it
directly. A bright boss, who was not an engineer.

I wish I had the skills to figure what the actual mapping transform
was. It has just been too many years for me to put in the effort.
Perhaps someone here could take it up. Perhaps a thesis topic.

I respect those who are encouraging new discovery in my favorite
sport. Keep at it.

Slide Rule,

I really do LIKE your thoughts. This is a fine post!

Stan Shuffett

 

[LAMas]

Stan

I read your posts with interest and to gain information. I am also
an engineer. I have a very strong mathematics background.

Your system appears to be precisely what you say. It is to use a
mathematics term a mapping of one system to another.

Mapping is done in math in order to find easier or more elegant
solutions. Unfortunately I have been away from my math for
many years. Electrical Engineers and other engineers commonly
use mapping.

Electricals use Laplace transforms to transform differential
equations into algebra problems. Then the problem is
transformed back into the original domain.

That mapping is a useful device is unquestioned.

I had a boss once who responded to my claim of problem solving
with an observation. Engineers are good problem solvers because
they create so many problems. I asked if I could help him with
the specifics after he explained them. No. He would resolve it
directly. A bright boss, who was not an engineer.

I wish I had the skills to figure what the actual mapping transform
was. It has just been too many years for me to put in the effort.
Perhaps someone here could take it up. Perhaps a thesis topic.

I respect those who are encouraging new discovery in my favorite
sport. Keep at it.

Slide,
Laplace Transform:
Given a simple mathematical or functional description of an input or output to a system, the Laplace transform provides an alternative functional description that often simplifies the process of analyzing the behavior of the system, or in synthesizing a new system based on a set of specifications.

Your bringing up the Laplace Transform in the context of replying to this thread is very relevant. The specification is to make the shot. the popular ghost ball method is dependent on visualizing an invisible image of another ball (GB) next to the OB that is the exact same diameter as the OB and in the exact location that contacts the OB to send it to the pocket/target.

Thus CTE/Pro1 seems to me, who, hasn't seen the DVD to "provides an alternative functional description that often simplifies the process of analyzing the behavior of the system" -in this case GB aiming.

In my field of engineering, we have become highly dependent on microprocessors and memory storage devices to recall an almost infinite number of different scenarios - like the different shots in shooting pool.

The memories are loaded with all of these scenarios to be recalled by the microprocessor as the data that describes the problem - that requires a solution is inputted to it. It then executes the solution that may include turning on and instructing motors, actuators, vision systems and even GPS to execute the desired functions.

The human brain is more capable than the computer described above and is able to store visual images as presented by the location of the pocket/target, OB and CB for a given shot that needs to be solved and then recalls the correct solution that worked before.

All viable aiming systems requires absorbing the visual configuration of the shot elements at hand and recalling the correct stance , CB to OB overlap that may include a secondary image as viewed from the edge of the CB or contact point on the OB to the contact point on the CB...what ever works for the shooter.

Thanks for your post.:smile::thumbup:

 

[Slide Rule]

Compliments from opposing sides of a disagreement.

I appreciate the very kind words from each of you.

Mapping
And the mapping project could be a very fine thesis for someone
working on a Masters or Doctorate degree, providing they could
find a university adviser to direct their work.

I mean it about those discovering and better to those sharing
some of their discovery.

I want to know everything. I put in considerable work to satisfy
my needs. The problem is that I have many areas of interest
that divide my time.


Learn and share. As I am also a confirmed Capitalist, make
something for your efforts.

:smile:

 

[ps611846]

What I suspect limits many in learning cte pro one.

I believe that many players who practice pro one are not aware of where they hit the cue ball. If a shot is "a inside" for example, this doesn't mean that it will go in if you hit the cb off center. And I don't only mean using sidespin. i think that follow and draw without sidespin also change the the angle of the shot. For example, at certain speeds with pure follow I overcut shots and with draw I undercut.
If I adjust to this and play the shot with different visuals I center pocket the ob. So to me, "a inside" doesn't mean that this shot is only played with these visuals and pivot. I can make an "a inside" shot with "b inside" if I don't play center cue ball.
Maybe I am doing something wrong, but I can pocket all the dvd shots with their exact visuals. I hope I will learn more fron dvd 2.

I would like to see Stan's comments on my post.

 

[stan shuffett]

What I suspect limits many in learning cte pro one.

I believe that many players who practice pro one are not aware of where they hit the cue ball. If a shot is "a inside" for example, this doesn't mean that it will go in if you hit the cb off center. And I don't only mean using sidespin. i think that follow and draw without sidespin also change the the angle of the shot. For example, at certain speeds with pure follow I overcut shots and with draw I undercut.
If I adjust to this and play the shot with different visuals I center pocket the ob. So to me, "a inside" doesn't mean that this shot is only played with these visuals and pivot. I can make an "a inside" shot with "b inside" if I don't play center cue ball.
Maybe I am doing something wrong, but I can pocket all the dvd shots with their exact visuals. I hope I will learn more fron dvd 2.

I would like to see Stan's comments on my post.

DVD2 will shed much light concerning your post.

At the heart of CTE is its visual nature. Real CTE gives a shot line to pockets that is always equal to a 1/2 tip pivot. Of course, all visual sweeps in CTE PRO ONE are equal.

Essentially, there is only one shot in CTE.

CTE gives you that one line, visually. What a player does with that line is individual and based on knowledge and recognition skills.

The beginning player should live on that given visual line in order to learn the
first principles of solid play. (DO NOT stray from CCB too quickly.)

JUSTCUEIT FIRST PRINCIPLES for CTE:

1 Objective Visual alignment during ball address
2 Two objective VISUAL/PYHSICAL sweeps to CCB.
3 Cue alignment to the given visual line during full stance
4 Stroking along that shot line to and through CCB

As one's experience grows with that shot line, then small amounts of spin can be used to the left or right of that known shot line.

The perceptions of CTE PRO ONE when followed by a visual sweep to CCB connect to table geometry. I will show this in DVD2,,and to any one, personally, upon request at my teaching facility.

Substitutions for the prescribed perceptions and rotations simply do not work with any kind of consistency. I could pick out a diamond on a rail closest to any OB that I shoot and sweep to CCB and still play decent, but there is no logic in doing that and zero connection to any pocket...

In DVD2, there's going to be a lot of "clearing up" done.

Stan Shuffett