I ordered some red fiber pads because I like the look of them between the tip and ferrule. I would imagine just prep both sides by sanding them flat, glue it to the tip, glue the whole tip +fiber pad unit to the ferrule, then trim and shape the tip. Are there any little tricks to installing these by hand without a lathe?
How would one install a red fiber pad by hand?
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Yep, attach it to a tip, anytip you don't like. Now that U can Hold the tip, just flat sand it on a table, face the ferrule and glue the bogus tip on. Later, trim, cut tip off, face other side of fiber pad with your Williards and your good to go.
Trim with a super sharp, good quality, thick razor blade. Then carefully sand to flush, shape, and burnish the sides.
Exactly. The pads are pretty simple. For anyone who might not have a lathe, and/or not in an area where a good tip guy is located need to look into something like this. Just buy a joint pin the size of thread as your shafts, stick in the chuck etc... Everyone has to have a drill laying around, right? I have access to a large lathe now, but have used these many many times for putting my tips on.
I've never seen one. Did a search and saw some photo's of ferrules with the red pad. They look very nice. I'd like to try one. Where do you order them and can you just buy one or two?
I got mine from Seyberts, they were the first place I found that sold individually, 25 cents apiece, but only makes sense if you can add it on to a larger order because of the minimum shipping costs
http://www.seyberts.com/products/Fibre_Tip_Pads_14mm-102255-10322.html
Here's a shot of how mine came out. Ferrule>Black Pad>Red Pad>Samsara Break Tip
http://www.seyberts.com/products/Fibre_Tip_Pads_14mm-102255-10322.html
Here's a shot of how mine came out. Ferrule>Black Pad>Red Pad>Samsara Break Tip
by hand
You did that The tip and fiber pad by hand ????????????????
I do local cue repair. most customers destory the ferrule with sand paper.
The ferrule get sanded then the chalk fills the little scratches plus the owner sands more one side then the other.
Then the owner sands the shaft so its smooth with the tip and ferrule but now the everthing is either not centered or out of round or both.
The cue repair man has no choice but to replace the ferrule or cut the dia of the shaft smaller............................................
MMike
I got mine from Seyberts, they were the first place I found that sold individually, 25 cents apiece, but only makes sense if you can add it on to a larger order because of the minimum shipping costs
http://www.seyberts.com/products/Fibre_Tip_Pads_14mm-102255-10322.html
Here's a shot of how mine came out. Ferrule>Black Pad>Red Pad>Samsara Break Tip
You did that The tip and fiber pad by hand ????????????????
I do local cue repair. most customers destory the ferrule with sand paper.
The ferrule get sanded then the chalk fills the little scratches plus the owner sands more one side then the other.
Then the owner sands the shaft so its smooth with the tip and ferrule but now the everthing is either not centered or out of round or both.
The cue repair man has no choice but to replace the ferrule or cut the dia of the shaft smaller............................................
MMike
LOL
no, sorry. I wasn't meaning to imply I did that by hand. Was just offering info on where I found them for sale individually, showing the design I went with (using the two pads instead of one) and showing how nicely they can polish up. That was my first attempt with pads....and I'm FAR from experienced yet
That was done using a drill powered turner. There are scratches in the ferrule that need to be addressed, they just didn't show up in the pic because it was still nice and clean at that point.
I had wetsanded from 400 up to 1500 grit (keeping it wet so as not to build up heat), then burnished the sides of the tip with a piece of scrap leather and some water and hit the ferrule with some metal polish on a piece of felt.
So, yeah, there are a couple deeper scratched still in it, but the places that aren't scratched are good and polished, stray chalk just wipes right off :thumbup:
no, sorry. I wasn't meaning to imply I did that by hand. Was just offering info on where I found them for sale individually, showing the design I went with (using the two pads instead of one) and showing how nicely they can polish up. That was my first attempt with pads....and I'm FAR from experienced yet
That was done using a drill powered turner. There are scratches in the ferrule that need to be addressed, they just didn't show up in the pic because it was still nice and clean at that point.
I had wetsanded from 400 up to 1500 grit (keeping it wet so as not to build up heat), then burnished the sides of the tip with a piece of scrap leather and some water and hit the ferrule with some metal polish on a piece of felt.
So, yeah, there are a couple deeper scratched still in it, but the places that aren't scratched are good and polished, stray chalk just wipes right off :thumbup:
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I bought a pack of 30 from Sunshine Billiard supplies on eBay for about $11 shipped.
I got mine from Seyberts, they were the first place I found that sold individually, 25 cents apiece, but only makes sense if you can add it on to a larger order because of the minimum shipping costs
http://www.seyberts.com/products/Fibre_Tip_Pads_14mm-102255-10322.html
Here's a shot of how mine came out. Ferrule>Black Pad>Red Pad>Samsara Break Tip
Interesting.... I have no idea why any one wants to do that....
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Interesting.... I have no idea why any one wants to do that....
In my particular case, I had a Samsara break tip that kept popping off. Someone gave me some advice that a tip pad might help. I saw where someone had layered them while searching for how to install them....and I just thought it looked better this way. With how dark the leather tip is, this looks like a red ring on the tip instead of just a line of red between the white and the black.
Couldn't say if it's the pads or the different glue, but the tip seems to be staying on now, and I love the way it looks....it's a personal taste thing :thumbup:
installing a tip by hand
I tried to install tips by hand a couple times, never tried to spin a shaft with a drill but Im sure it is some what of a help.
my done by hand tip replacement was the same as most people do it,
the ferrule was scratched.
I am not saying that it cannot be done but a Lathe works the best.
I think there is very few people that can do it buy hand correctly .
At the rate I was sanding on my shaft and ferrule the shaft would of been junk in a few years.
Doing a tip wrong 2 or 3 times in a row is enough to destroy the ferrule and shaft
Try polishing compound to rub out the ferrule, then I clean with alcohol.
http://www.meguiars.com/en/professional/products/m0116-medium-cut-cleaner-16oz/
try to keep the tip dry.
MMike
LOL
no, sorry. I wasn't meaning to imply I did that by hand. Was just offering info on where I found them for sale individually, showing the design I went with (using the two pads instead of one) and showing how nicely they can polish up. That was my first attempt with pads....and I'm FAR from experienced yet
That was done using a drill powered turner. There are scratches in the ferrule that need to be addressed, they just didn't show up in the pic because it was still nice and clean at that point.
I had wetsanded from 400 up to 1500 grit (keeping it wet so as not to build up heat), then burnished the sides of the tip with a piece of scrap leather and some water and hit the ferrule with some metal polish on a piece of felt.
So, yeah, there are a couple deeper scratched still in it, but the places that aren't scratched are good and polished, stray chalk just wipes right off :thumbup:
I tried to install tips by hand a couple times, never tried to spin a shaft with a drill but Im sure it is some what of a help.
my done by hand tip replacement was the same as most people do it,
the ferrule was scratched.
I am not saying that it cannot be done but a Lathe works the best.
I think there is very few people that can do it buy hand correctly .
At the rate I was sanding on my shaft and ferrule the shaft would of been junk in a few years.
Doing a tip wrong 2 or 3 times in a row is enough to destroy the ferrule and shaft
Try polishing compound to rub out the ferrule, then I clean with alcohol.
http://www.meguiars.com/en/professional/products/m0116-medium-cut-cleaner-16oz/
try to keep the tip dry.
MMike
I don't want to go toooo much further off topic here, but this is what I was using: http://www.ebay.com/itm/110994340270?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649
Call it a poor mans version of a lathe. Works well for trimming down and shaping tips, could work for wrapping a butt, wouldn't trust it for any serious turning work.
As for the polish, I was using Mothers aluminum mag/wheel polish. More of a paste than a liquid, but same principals, a medium abrasive compound. Already had it on hand, and it did a fine job
also
Micro mesh
1500, 1800, 2400, 3200, grit would work ok by hand if you could handle
buffing on your shaft for 2 or 3 hrs. < try viagra I heard it does wonders.
http://www.woodcraft.com/product/2005232/10574/micromesh-5-sanding-disc-assortment-pack.aspx
Or you can buy the sheets
http://www.woodcraft.com/product/2005232/10574/micromesh-5-sanding-disc-assortment-pack.aspx
these will work but dont last long
http://www.woodcraft.com/Product/2005233/10573/MicroMesh-Pen-Sanding-Kit.aspx
Havent tried these but I think they would work the best.
http://www.woodcraft.com/product/2080764/29708/micromesh-12-x-5-34-colored-sanding-sticks.aspx
You can sand dry with these...................
Good luck
MMike
LOL
no, sorry. I wasn't meaning to imply I did that by hand. Was just offering info on where I found them for sale individually, showing the design I went with (using the two pads instead of one) and showing how nicely they can polish up. That was my first attempt with pads....and I'm FAR from experienced yet
That was done using a drill powered turner. There are scratches in the ferrule that need to be addressed, they just didn't show up in the pic because it was still nice and clean at that point.
I had wetsanded from 400 up to 1500 grit (keeping it wet so as not to build up heat), then burnished the sides of the tip with a piece of scrap leather and some water and hit the ferrule with some metal polish on a piece of felt.
So, yeah, there are a couple deeper scratched still in it, but the places that aren't scratched are good and polished, stray chalk just wipes right off :thumbup:
Micro mesh
1500, 1800, 2400, 3200, grit would work ok by hand if you could handle
buffing on your shaft for 2 or 3 hrs. < try viagra I heard it does wonders.
http://www.woodcraft.com/product/2005232/10574/micromesh-5-sanding-disc-assortment-pack.aspx
Or you can buy the sheets
http://www.woodcraft.com/product/2005232/10574/micromesh-5-sanding-disc-assortment-pack.aspx
these will work but dont last long
http://www.woodcraft.com/Product/2005233/10573/MicroMesh-Pen-Sanding-Kit.aspx
Havent tried these but I think they would work the best.
http://www.woodcraft.com/product/2080764/29708/micromesh-12-x-5-34-colored-sanding-sticks.aspx
You can sand dry with these...................
Good luck
MMike
Micro mesh
1500, 1800, 2400, 3200, grit would work ok by hand if you could handle
buffing on your shaft for 2 or 3 hrs. < try viagra I heard it does wonders.
http://www.woodcraft.com/product/2005232/10574/micromesh-5-sanding-disc-assortment-pack.aspx
Or you can buy the sheets
http://www.woodcraft.com/product/2005232/10574/micromesh-5-sanding-disc-assortment-pack.aspx
these will work but dont last long
http://www.woodcraft.com/Product/2005233/10573/MicroMesh-Pen-Sanding-Kit.aspx
Havent tried these but I think they would work the best.
http://www.woodcraft.com/product/2080764/29708/micromesh-12-x-5-34-colored-sanding-sticks.aspx
You can sand dry with these...................
Good luck
MMike
eh. I've got micro mesh here going up to around 30,000 grit, didn't find it necessary to go higher than what I did for this
The pad can be reused. Just re-face, scuff up a little, and a new tip glues to it just fine. Done that many, many times.