8ball bar rules by region

Push&Pool

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Bar rules vary from one bar to another but there are many similarities in every country or region in the world. At least 80% of informal rules are applied by over 95% of players in one region. I know that's the case in my country and region, and as far as I'm aware of, it's the same in most of the US. I was wondering if players from different parts of the world could post commonly used bar rules in their region in this thread. Not only we can learn about pool in various cultures, but players who like to travel and play pool in other parts of the world could know what to expect. Ruleset my people uses has already been posted in the topic about Last pocket 8 ball, but I can repost it if needed.
 
There is no such thing as bar rules, because every "bar player" has a different version of what the rules are. Learn masters rules and knock off this bar player bs
 
Bar Rules:

Hit a ball in the hole, repeat till your side is all gone, then shoot the 8 in.

There is really no other rules that people that don't know the rules play by. They make some stuff up as they go along.
 
at the bar I play at I'm usually considered one of the better players there and we go straight out of latest bca hand book. I think it makes it harder but at a local bar every time you foul you must take a ball out of the pocket and spot the ball. and then the other player gets ball in hand. I do like that and might bring that with me
 
at the bar I play at I'm usually considered one of the better players there and we go straight out of latest bca hand book. I think it makes it harder but at a local bar every time you foul you must take a ball out of the pocket and spot the ball. and then the other player gets ball in hand. I do like that and might bring that with me

If you spot a ball when you foul, it can be as bad for the other player because they now have more stuff in their way. Removing or re spotting balls is only useful between bad players or as a hustle. One of the oldest 8 ball hustles is offering to remove some balls from the table for the other guy. It just opens the table up more for the player to run out.
 
In my experience, bar rules vary by which region of the bar's floor plan your table is in, as well as what day of the week, and what time of day the game is being played (in other words, how many drinks have been consumed).

:)

I don't mean to be negative. Good luck with your research!

-Blake
 
If you spot a ball when you foul, it can be as bad for the other player because they now have more stuff in their way. Removing or re spotting balls is only useful between bad players or as a hustle. One of the oldest 8 ball hustles is offering to remove some balls from the table for the other guy. It just opens the table up more for the player to run out.

I've pulled I'll give you three ball after the break a few times its a little dirty but I don't do that anymore
 
Bar Rules:

Hit a ball in the hole, repeat till your side is all gone, then shoot the 8 in.

There is really no other rules that people that don't know the rules play by. They make some stuff up as they go along.

I agree with ya on that one. Yeah there are your "I shoot once a month because we're at a bar sucking down beers" crowd that have absolutely no concept of the game. But the places I go to there are some good players. Grant it, each establishment has it's own "house rules". One place allows you to play a ball off the 8 while others don't. Some places play APA style ball in hand after a scratch or foul, others don't.
 
There is no such thing as bar rules, because every "bar player" has a different version of what the rules are. Learn masters rules and knock off this bar player bs

Bar player BS? I don't remember insulting your BCA/WPA community and calling it BS... Learning "master" rules isn't a problem, finding enough people to play by them is. Good for you if you can play with lots of players who use official rules, but here bar rules dominate over everything. Still, we don't have what you would call "house rules". When you go to a bar, you can play using any rules you like. It's more that every group of players has their own ruleset, but the differences between them are usually minimal. Here's how I thought people should describe dominating bar rulesets in their area (this one is South-Eastern Europe, possibly even wider):

- When racking, 8 ball is placed in the middle of the triangle and goes to the footspot, other balls are placed around it in solid-stripe-solid-stripe sequence
- To make a legal break, the CB can be positioned anywhere in the kitchen, and the only requirement is to touch the CB (possible variations: sometimes a player needs to shoot it past the center of the table, sometimes it needs to touch the rack)
- If no balls fall in, the other player gets the turn and is free to shoot at any ball except the 8 (see below). This repeats until a colored ball is pocketed
- The ball that rolls into the collection chamber first determines the group of the player who pocketed it. This applies even when a player shoots in both solids and stripes in the same shot. Sometimes it may vary, so the group of a player is determined by the ball which is pocketed first (what can sometimes be hard to notice) or, rarely, if both solids and stripes were pocketed, the player can be given the opportunity to choose the group he wants. Scratching doesn't influence the group determination in any way.
- Scratch and CB off the table result in placing the CB on headspot and the opponent gets to shoot at their OBs only across the center of the table
- Pocketing 8 ball on the break is a win, even if other colored balls are pocketed. Scratching while pocketing the 8, both on the break and later in-game, is a loss.
- Balls off the table are usually placed wherever the players decide, 8 off the table is a loss.
- Hitting the 8 directly at any time (except when you acquired your last pocket) is a loss.
- Hitting the opponent's balls directly results in loss of turn, and the opponent can choose if they want the ball you hit to be pocketed or left on the table.
- When shooting, there's no requirement for the CB to hit anything (rails, other balls...).
- As long as you keep pocketing at least one OB in one shot, you continue your inning.
- Pocketing your opponent's balls isn't punishable and you don't lose your turn as long as your OB is pocketed at the same time (and if you didn't hit the opponent's ball directly).
- Jumping is allowed (even with scooping techniques).
- The pocket where you dropped your last OB becomes your last pocket where you need to drop the 8 ball to win. If the 8 ball is pocketed in any other pocket, or if it falls in before the last pockets are determined, it results in a loss.
- Pocketing your last OB and the 8 in the same shot is a loss.
- Failing to touch the 8 three times in a row is a loss.
- If you drop your last OB in the opponent's last pocket, your last pocket becomes the one right across the table.

There are probably some other minor rules I forgot, but this would be the basis of the game. I'd like to hear other versions now :)
 
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Bar player BS? I don't remember insulting your BCA/WPA community and calling it BS... Learning "master" rules isn't a problem, finding enough people to play by them is. Good for you if you can play with lots of players who use official rules, but here bar rules dominate over everything. Still, we don't have what you would call "house rules". When you go to a bar, you can play using any rules you like. It's more that every group of players has their own ruleset, but the differences between them are usually minimal. Here's how I thought people should describe dominating bar rulesets in their area (this one is South-Eastern Europe, possibly even wider):

- When racking, 8 ball is placed in the middle of the triangle and goes to the footspot, other balls are placed around it in solid-stripe-solid-stripe sequence
- To make a legal break, the CB can be positioned anywhere in the kitchen, and the only requirement is to touch the CB (possible variations: sometimes a player needs to shoot it past the center of the table, sometimes it needs to touch the rack)
- If no balls fall in, the other player gets the turn and is free to shoot at any ball except the 8 (see below). This repeats until a colored ball is pocketed
- The ball that rolls into the collection chamber first determines the group of the player who pocketed it. This applies even when a player shoots in both solids and stripes in the same shot. Sometimes it may vary, so the group of a player is determined by the ball which is pocketed first (what can sometimes be hard to notice) or, rarely, if both solids and stripes were pocketed, the player can be given the opportunity to choose the group he wants. Scratching doesn't influence the group determination in any way.
- Scratch and CB off the table result in placing the CB on headspot and the opponent getting the next turn.
- Pocketing 8 ball on the break is a win, even if other colored balls are pocketed. Scratching while pocketing the 8, both on the break and later in-game, is a loss.
- Balls off the table are usually placed wherever the players decide, 8 off the table is a loss.
- Hitting the 8 directly at any time (except when you acquired your last pocket) is a loss.
- Hitting the opponent's balls directly results in loss of turn, and the opponent can choose if they want the ball you hit to be pocketed or left on the table.
- When shooting, there's no requirement for the CB to hit anything (rails, other balls...).
- As long as you keep pocketing at least one OB in one shot, you continue your inning.
- Pocketing your opponent's balls isn't punishable and you don't lose your turn as long as your OB is pocketed at the same time (and if you didn't hit the opponent's ball directly).
- Jumping is allowed (even with scooping techniques).
- The pocket where you dropped your last OB becomes your last pocket where you need to drop the 8 ball to win. If the 8 ball is pocketed in any other pocket, or if it falls in before the last pockets are determined, it results in a loss.
- Pocketing your last OB and the 8 in the same shot is a loss.
- Failing to touch the 8 three times in a row is a loss.
- If you drop your last OB in the opponent's last pocket, your last pocket becomes the one right across the table.

There are probably some other minor rules I forgot, but this would be the basis of the game. I'd like to hear other versions now :)

Every time I see your posts, I love the fact that I never have to play anyone that would think to use any of these rules more and more. If every real pool room within 60 miles of me shut down, I'd buy a table and build a room to hold it before I would go out to play using no rules. It's like playing any other game with no rules. Would you play Twister if you did not have to touch a color or could pick any color no matter what the spinner landed on? Or that you could shove the other player off his position at random. Maybe Chess would be more fun if you could move a pawn 4 spaces at a time every time you also moved your king? We'll play some basketball but only the shots that never touch the rim count, unless the player shoots off his right foot and freethrows can be taken from anywhere.
 
I agree with hang the nine. Learn how to play by the rules or don't play. Bar rules aren't real rules, period. I'm not going to read this thread anymore so no need to comment on my response pollkiller.
 
Every time I find a post or thread by the OP, it's usually something along the lines of "Bar rules are the best, let me hear your opinions about if you agree or not, and if you don't agree I'm goin to make another thread."

To the OP: Learn to play the game the correct way.

Never ever ever is scooping legal.
 
Try polling the players where you play and take a consensus of opinion and take it to the management of the venue. The only way this works it to have posted house rules. Here, for the most part, you'll get only negative opinions because most of us could not care less about bar rules or the lack thereof.
 
I play in a tournament about once a month that has the following rules:

The balls are racked normally but no specific requirement about corner balls.

On the break - if you make a solid, you have solids... if you make one of each you still have choice.

First slop counts - if nothing was made on the break or if the table is still open after the break, the next ball to fall whether intended or not becomes that player's type (solid or stripes).

Honest effort must be used to pocket one of your balls properly. No intentional safes allowed. (try enforcing that one!!)
.... add to above that the person judging the match (when he is not playing his own game) does not recognize when someone plays a safe if they simply make it "look good" in his eyes.

The penalty for intentional safe is the opponent gets ball in hand but only in the kitchen. This is the only time a player gets ball in hand. (I wonder if people still know where "the kitchen" is). :grin:

8 ball is neutral. If you attempt to use the 8 to pocket a combo on one of your balls and then scratch - you lose.

Single game matches, double elimination. There are only two bar boxes.

All shots must be called to include all contacts and rails.

That's not all the rules, just a sampling of the more bizarre ones. If 25 or more players show up, the 1st prize is $500.

It's tough to win that thing!! The rules are so ridiculous that it's comical at times.
 
Bar rules usually equals bar brawl when there's a beer on the line and somebody comes up with "the ball hit the cushion before it went in" nonsense.

Whenever I play in a bar and they play "bar rules" I ask to see a copy of the rules. There never is one.

APA, TAP, etc... has real rules that can be viewed on any smart phone. If there's money involved I insist on using real rules, any real rules.
 
Typically the older the crowd you are playing with the more ridiculous and lengthy the rules are.

The younger the player the less rules you are going to be dealing with since they started on more sensible "ball in hand" rules with only the primary ball/pocket being called at most.
 
Yay, another poolkiller thread that wouldn't have made it past one page and died quietly if he didn't bump it.



Some people learn the rules and then focus on learning to play. Poolkiller apparently needs to overcompensate in the 1st part, isn't real hard to figure out why.
 
Bar rules vary from one bar to another but there are many similarities in every country or region in the world. At least 80% of informal rules are applied by over 95% of players in one region. I know that's the case in my country and region, and as far as I'm aware of, it's the same in most of the US. I was wondering if players from different parts of the world could post commonly used bar rules in their region in this thread. Not only we can learn about pool in various cultures, but players who like to travel and play pool in other parts of the world could know what to expect. Ruleset my people uses has already been posted in the topic about Last pocket 8 ball, but I can repost it if needed.

Just because drunks don't know the rules doesn't mean there aren't any.. learn the rules and refuse to play people who won't even try to learn them..written 8ball rules are nearly universality standardized at this point.. failure to learn them is on you.
 
I play in a tournament about once a month that has the following rules:

The balls are racked normally but no specific requirement about corner balls.

On the break - if you make a solid, you have solids... if you make one of each you still have choice.

First slop counts - if nothing was made on the break or if the table is still open after the break, the next ball to fall whether intended or not becomes that player's type (solid or stripes).

Honest effort must be used to pocket one of your balls properly. No intentional safes allowed. (try enforcing that one!!)
.... add to above that the person judging the match (when he is not playing his own game) does not recognize when someone plays a safe if they simply make it "look good" in his eyes.

The penalty for intentional safe is the opponent gets ball in hand but only in the kitchen. This is the only time a player gets ball in hand. (I wonder if people still know where "the kitchen" is). :grin:

8 ball is neutral. If you attempt to use the 8 to pocket a combo on one of your balls and then scratch - you lose.

Single game matches, double elimination. There are only two bar boxes.

All shots must be called to include all contacts and rails.

That's not all the rules, just a sampling of the more bizarre ones. If 25 or more players show up, the 1st prize is $500.

It's tough to win that thing!! The rules are so ridiculous that it's comical at times.

Sounds hard but interesting. I'd like to try it actually. It's a good thing people come up with many good variations. One thing: where does the CB go after scratch?

Just because drunks don't know the rules doesn't mean there aren't any.. learn the rules and refuse to play people who won't even try to learn them..written 8ball rules are nearly universality standardized at this point.. failure to learn them is on you.

Just told you, I already know the WSR, and I could use them if I wanted to and if I had a crowd who would play that way as well. But most players find it harder, more challenging and more fun to play our last pocket version with regional rules. And I have to agree with them, although I'd probably play WSR as well if I had enough opponents.
 
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