He's saying that you can't blame the players for breaking the rules if there are no rules.
Professional Pool Player Behavior - Is it Time to Solve the Problem or Not?
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He's saying that you can't blame the players for breaking the rules if there are no rules.
This doesn't happen by accident, 100% of movies, and TV Shows have Directors
Right now the only attention pool gets is from the "hard core fans" because of changing from ESPN to streaming video a few years ago. I would say more than half of the fanbase right now for streaming video is on AZBILLIARDS (I'm even being conservative). We've an advocate of "entertainment over mediocrity" and this Earl/Jeremy was actually entertaining to thousands of people. It creates REAL drama and "grudge matches," that's one of the components of future entertainment.
I believe if these were strategically done it would be a step in the right direction, however, it would have to be professionally supervised and directed. Players/actors shouldn't direct themselves, it's not done anywhere EXCEPT in the pool arena.....and it's not working very well.
Bonus Ball is spending a significant amount on production and I always wondered why they wouldn't take my recommendation on this issue when we met in Vegas a year ago.. I'm not communicating "opinion," I'm pointing out something that is essential to them if they want a legitimate chance to get BB on TV.
In business the "Code of Conduct" is used to DIRECT positive, desired behavior, not a disciplinary document. The fact of the matter is the players don't know how to "act," they want to do the best they can, but have no guidance. My recommendation is to take a percentage of the production budget and HIRE someone to "groom the players" into entertaining personalities/characters.
This doesn't happen by accident, 100% of movies, and TV Shows have Directors that perform this job.....and it's a very important job indeed. None of the movie and TV stars got famous by acting like themselves, they all developed characters in their shows AND for their persona. I'm simply suggesting that pool should NOT be the exception, I believe we should be the "Sample Example".
'The Game is the Teacher'
Right now the only attention pool gets is from the "hard core fans" because of changing from ESPN to streaming video a few years ago. I would say more than half of the fanbase right now for streaming video is on AZBILLIARDS (I'm even being conservative). We've an advocate of "entertainment over mediocrity" and this Earl/Jeremy was actually entertaining to thousands of people. It creates REAL drama and "grudge matches," that's one of the components of future entertainment.
I believe if these were strategically done it would be a step in the right direction, however, it would have to be professionally supervised and directed. Players/actors shouldn't direct themselves, it's not done anywhere EXCEPT in the pool arena.....and it's not working very well.
Bonus Ball is spending a significant amount on production and I always wondered why they wouldn't take my recommendation on this issue when we met in Vegas a year ago.. I'm not communicating "opinion," I'm pointing out something that is essential to them if they want a legitimate chance to get BB on TV.
In business the "Code of Conduct" is used to DIRECT positive, desired behavior, not a disciplinary document. The fact of the matter is the players don't know how to "act," they want to do the best they can, but have no guidance. My recommendation is to take a percentage of the production budget and HIRE someone to "groom the players" into entertaining personalities/characters.
This doesn't happen by accident, 100% of movies, and TV Shows have Directors that perform this job.....and it's a very important job indeed. None of the movie and TV stars got famous by acting like themselves, they all developed characters in their shows AND for their persona. I'm simply suggesting that pool should NOT be the exception, I believe we should be the "Sample Example".
'The Game is the Teacher'
So you want pool to be like the WWF, huh? I know I'm taking your point to an extreme, nonetheless, we disagree that this would be a good direction for pool to go.
Best,
Fatz
:woot:
that is almost as funny as Cleary's Souquet silhouette observation. :blink:
Yes, you are taking my point to an extreme so you can disagree
Yes, you are taking my point to the extreme so you can disagree with it. I actually want every match to be played to the death. :thumbup: that's another "extreme" that you may agree, or disagree with.
My points have consistently been about entertainment quality and how to build and develop characters and professionally designed personalities. This is done in all other sports, and of course pool is the exception by not doing it.
Pool's "fatal flaw" is the belief that it's "exceptional" and neglects following proven models that other sports have used for many years that include ESPN/FOX Sports Coverage, Referees, Public Relations, Marketing, Advertising, and Character Development.The results of this strategy are predictable and speak volumes for why Bonus Ball is the best viable option for the aspiring Pool Professional right now.
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Yes, you are taking my point to the extreme so you can disagree with it. I actually want every match to be played to the death. :thumbup: that's another "extreme" that you may agree, or disagree with.
My points have consistently been about entertainment quality and how to build and develop characters and professionally designed personalities. This is done in all other sports, and of course pool is the exception by not doing it.
Pool's "fatal flaw" is the belief that it's "exceptional" and neglects following proven models that other sports have used for many years that include ESPN/FOX Sports Coverage, Referees, Public Relations, Marketing, Advertising, and Character Development.The results of this strategy are predictable and speak volumes for why Bonus Ball is the best viable option for the aspiring Pool Professional right now.
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No CJ, I already disagree with your opinion, then took it to an extreme to illustrate why I disagree with it.
Perhaps I misunderstood your opinion? Basically didn't you say that the conflict type of drama between JJ and Earl was good for pool? Then you used the word "actors" in conjunction with players - and the word "manage" in conjunction with the drama. From here I took it to mean that you were suggesting this type of drama should be choreographed and that the players should become actors and play out the drama like a roll in theater, hence my WWF analogy. If that was not what you were saying, then I'll stand corrected.
Fatz
To change behavior there must be patience, tolerance, education and training
No, I don't see how the conflict was "good" for pool, and at the same time it wasn't "bad" for pool either because it at least got us talking about solutions. The solution to negative behavior is education and training, I could point this out in several areas of life, but I doubt if I have to. We all have had certain behaviors that weren't positive in our life and we either learned to practice better behavior or we were doomed to repeat it.
A Code of Conduct manual is used to educate and train positive behavior. First "positive behavior" must be outlined in the maual, then an "action plan" must be followed to teach and manage these behaviors. Passing out the manual is just the first step, the second is reading it, then the third is understanding and going over it on a regular basis with other staff members and managers.
This is what's proven to work, what doesn't work is to just watch someone stumble, then beat them over the head with the "Rules and Regulations," or judge them as "bad" or "unacceptable" or chirp to other people about how "no one could or should work with them".....this approach of gossip and complain is just a sign of fear, incompetence, or intolerance in someone's own personal life and has little to do with "other people".
To change behavior there must be patience, tolerance, education and training or there's rarely an improvement, if anything the behavior just keeps getting worse.
I think we can see this happening at different levels in the "pool world," I'm just suggesting in this thread that it may be time to make positive, useful changes.
'The Game is the Teacher'.com
No, I don't see how the conflict was "good" for pool, and at the same time it wasn't "bad" for pool either because it at least got us talking about solutions. The solution to negative behavior is education and training, I could point this out in several areas of life, but I doubt if I have to. We all have had certain behaviors that weren't positive in our life and we either learned to practice better behavior or we were doomed to repeat it.
A Code of Conduct manual is used to educate and train positive behavior. First "positive behavior" must be outlined in the maual, then an "action plan" must be followed to teach and manage these behaviors. Passing out the manual is just the first step, the second is reading it, then the third is understanding and going over it on a regular basis with other staff members and managers.
This is what's proven to work, what doesn't work is to just watch someone stumble, then beat them over the head with the "Rules and Regulations," or judge them as "bad" or "unacceptable" or chirp to other people about how "no one could or should work with them".....this approach of gossip and complain is just a sign of fear, incompetence, or intolerance in someone's own personal life and has little to do with "other people".
To change behavior there must be patience, tolerance, education and training or there's rarely an improvement, if anything the behavior just keeps getting worse.
I think we can see this happening at different levels in the "pool world," I'm just suggesting in this thread that it may be time to make positive, useful changes.
'The Game is the Teacher'.com
Woops, my bad...
roll |rōl| : noun : a movement in which someone or something turns or is turned over on itself : a roll of the dice.
role |rōl| : noun : an actor's part in a play, movie, etc.
"Fatz's pool skills are suspect at best. Nevertheless he dreamed about making a living at pro pool. Before he ended up in the gutter he was offered the part of Sancho Panza in Don Quixote on Broadway. Wow what a good roll."
Never rule out a potentially "good roll".
Never rule out a potentially "good roll".
Never rule out a potentially "good roll".